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** I would say that it is a matter of pride. He's old, dislikes AI and it seems like he's been part of big operations where big weapons played an important part, or, more sadly, he's a fanboy of those operations without ever having played a part in them. His operating the MOOSE shows him killing gangster with joy, so he might like having control of situations, and the MOOSE pretty much screams power. It's not about creating an ideal product, it's more about showing that his way of doing thinks are better than Deon's.

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** I would say that it is a matter of pride. He's old, dislikes AI and it seems like he's been part of big operations where big weapons played an important part, or, more sadly, he's a fanboy of those operations without ever having played a part in them. His operating the MOOSE shows him killing gangster gangsters with joy, so he might like having control of situations, and the MOOSE pretty much screams power. It's not about creating an ideal product, it's more about showing that his way of doing thinks are better than Deon's.
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Not Fridge Logic, the movie addresses this by saying that a mind is not data but that Chappie has discovered "what consciousness is." Whether or not you believe that would work in real life is one thing but within the context of the movie it's clearly supposed to be a transfer.


* The download of Yo-landi ''doesn't'' resurrect her as a robot. It just creates a robot that thinks it's her. Yo-landi dies for real. Deon as well; he dies of a gunshot wound while the proto-scout thinks itself as Deon.
** In a sense, that is fitting to the fundamental question of the film, on what consciousness and the soul is. Did the other characters really get resurrected or did they get copied as well? The only practical difference would be that Deon and Chappie might remember the moment of their "death" but Yo-landi will not. Is that all that makes a soul?
** Arguable, Deon's original body dies because Chappie removed his consciousness from it, the gunshot wound just facilitated the need to.
** Chappie is a robot, his 'soul(as in consciousness and memories)' is electronic software that can obviously be moved from one hardware to another, but human 'souls' don't work like that, so yeah, probably Deon and Yo-Landi are just copies.
*** Depends on whether you believe souls exist or not really. If you don't then there's no difference at all between the two things, our tech just isn't up to making the transfer yet.
*** Cut and paste, rather than copy. If you cut and paste a file from a USB drive, is it the same file? Does it matter, as long as the effect is the same?
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** I would say that it is a matter of pride. He's old, dislikes AI and it seems like he's been part of big operations where big weapons played an important part, or, more sadly, he's a fanboy of those operations without ever having played a part in them. His operating the MOOSE shows him killing gangster with joy, so he might like having control of situations, and the MOOSE pretty much screams power. It's not about creating an ideal product, it's more about showing that his way of doing thinks are better than Deon's.
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*** Cut and paste, rather than copy. If you cut and paste a file from a USB drive, is it the same file? Does it matter, as long as the effect is the same?


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** The batteries have to be charged somehow initially, so maybe they can recreate that. Or just keep making more batteries and recycling the old ones.
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* It's bad enough the lack of anyone checking the video cameras at Tetravaal, but they don't even have their own robots as security guards.

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* It's bad enough the lack of anyone checking the video cameras at Tetravaal, but they don't even have their own robots as security guards.guards.
** It's possible that they did. It's just that when the system was compromised, the Scouts that were charged with protecting the facility were taken completely offline to be repaired, and when Deon and Chappie looked for new bodies, these droids didn't show up as they were completely cut from the network by this point.
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*How could a civilian site store a war machine loaded with not only cannons but heavy ordnance and prohibited cluster munitions ready to go? And even with the CEO being drunk enough to authorize it's deployment why was there no oversight at all?
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** The problem Chappie had with the Droid no.22 body was that the battery was not replaceable due to the damage the body had sustained from Hippo's bazooka blast. It's easy to assume that the droids batteries are rechargeable once pulled out - it would have been incrediblt costly and impractical for Tetra Vaal if they weren't. And since Deon is the droids' creator, he may make some modifications in the future so that he, Chappie and Yolandi can recharge by just plugging to an energy source.

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** The problem Chappie had with the Droid no.22 body was that the battery was not replaceable due to the damage the body had sustained from Hippo's bazooka blast. It's easy to assume that the droids batteries are rechargeable once pulled out - it would have been incrediblt incredibly costly and impractical for Tetra Vaal if they weren't. And since Deon is the droids' creator, he may make some modifications in the future so that he, Chappie and Yolandi can recharge by just plugging to an energy source.
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* While Tetravaal does have rather lax security from the point of view of a audience use to big budget military bases, and objectively, there are some mitigating factors presented in universe for the SwissCheeseSecurity the largest one being that the most egregious lapses in security are during a massive and violent riot.

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* While Tetravaal does have rather lax security from the point of view of a audience use to big budget military bases, and objectively, there are some mitigating factors presented in universe for the SwissCheeseSecurity the largest one being that the most egregious lapses in security are during a massive and violent riot.riot.
* It's bad enough the lack of anyone checking the video cameras at Tetravaal, but they don't even have their own robots as security guards.
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** The problem Chappie had with the Droid no.22 body was that the battery was not replaceable due to the damage the body had sustained from Hippo's bazooka blast. It's easy to assume that the droids batteries are rechargeable once pulled out - it would have been incrediblt costly and impractical for Tetra Vaal if they weren't. And since Deon is the droids' creator, he may make some modifications in the future so that he, Chappie and Yolandi can recharge by just plugging to an energy source.
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* for the ceo it was probably because she does not have a place in the military market, while Moore is simply too bloodthirsty as shown in the final moments of the film, he just want his robot to murder gangstas.
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*for the ceo it was probably because she does not have a place in the military market, while Moore is simply too bloodthirsty as shown in the final moments of the film, he just want his robot to murder gangstas.
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* Why the hell is Moore so hellbent on pitching the Moose to the police? It's a friggin' assault weapon platform, ''flight-capable'' to boot and clearly shown to have excellent offensive capabilities. Its defense leaves something to be desired, but it ''is'' a prototype; one assumes the final version would have better armor plating. Any military would fall all over itself to lay its hands on an armored fighting vehicle like that, and if not for Moore the CEO at least should be able to figure it out - especially since she makes it obvious that the company makes weapons and not robots "who can write a poem".

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* Why the hell is Moore so hellbent on pitching the Moose to the police? It's a friggin' assault weapon platform, ''flight-capable'' to boot and clearly shown to have excellent offensive capabilities. Its defense leaves something to be desired, but it ''is'' a prototype; one assumes the final version would have better armor plating. Any military would fall all over itself to lay its hands on an armored fighting vehicle like that, and if not for Moore is so dumb he can't figure it out the CEO at least should be able to figure it out - especially since she makes it obvious that the company makes weapons and not robots "who can write a poem".
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* Why the hell is Moore so hellbent on pitching the Moose to the police? It's a friggin' assault weapon platform, ''flight-capable'' to boot and clearly shown to have excellent offensive capabilities. Its defense leaves something to be desired, but it ''is'' a prototype; one assumes the final version would have better armor plating. Any military would fall all over itself to lay its hands on an armored fighting vehicle like that, and if not for Moore the CEO at least should be able to figure it out - especially since she makes it obvious that the company makes weapons and not robots "who can write a poem".
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** Arguable, Deon's original body dies because Chappie removed his consciousness from it, the gunshot wound just facilitated the need to.
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* While Tetravaal does have rather lax security from the point of view of American audiences, and objectively, there are some mitigating factors presented in universe the largest one being that the most egregious lapses in security are during a massive and violent riot.

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* While Tetravaal does have rather lax security from the point of view of American audiences, a audience use to big budget military bases, and objectively, there are some mitigating factors presented in universe for the SwissCheeseSecurity the largest one being that the most egregious lapses in security are during a massive and violent riot.riot.
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as for poor comunication skills no clue


* So, after the end of the film, Chappie, Deon, and Yo-Landi are all in bodies where the batteries can be replaced, but are they going to have to steal a constant supply of batteries? Are they rechargeable or not?

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* So, after the end of the film, Chappie, Deon, and Yo-Landi are all in bodies where the batteries can be replaced, but are they going to have to steal a constant supply of batteries? Are they rechargeable or not?not?
* While Tetravaal does have rather lax security from the point of view of American audiences, and objectively, there are some mitigating factors presented in universe the largest one being that the most egregious lapses in security are during a massive and violent riot.
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*** Depends on whether you believe souls exist or not really. If you don't then there's no difference at all between the two things, our tech just isn't up to making the transfer yet.
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** Chappie is a robot, his 'soul(as in consciousness and memories)' is electronic software that can obviously be moved from one hardware to another, but human 'souls' don't work like that, so yeah, probably Deon and Yo-Landi are just copies.
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** In a sense, that is fitting to the fundamental question of the film, on what consciousness and the soul is. Did the other characters really get resurrected or did they get copied as well? The only practical difference would be that Deon and Chappie might remember the moment of their "death" but Yo-landi will not. Is that all that makes a soul?

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** In a sense, that is fitting to the fundamental question of the film, on what consciousness and the soul is. Did the other characters really get resurrected or did they get copied as well? The only practical difference would be that Deon and Chappie might remember the moment of their "death" but Yo-landi will not. Is that all that makes a soul?soul?
* So, after the end of the film, Chappie, Deon, and Yo-Landi are all in bodies where the batteries can be replaced, but are they going to have to steal a constant supply of batteries? Are they rechargeable or not?
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* The download of Yo-landi ''doesn't'' resurrect her as a robot. It just creates a robot that thinks it's her. Yolanda dies for real. Deon as well; he dies of a gunshot wound while the proto-scout thinks itself as Deon.

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* The download of Yo-landi ''doesn't'' resurrect her as a robot. It just creates a robot that thinks it's her. Yolanda Yo-landi dies for real. Deon as well; he dies of a gunshot wound while the proto-scout thinks itself as Deon.
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* The download of Yolanda ''doesn't'' resurrect her as a robot. It just creates a robot that thinks it's her. Yolanda dies for real. Deon as well; he dies of a gunshot wound while the proto-scout thinks itself as Deon.
** In a sense, that is fitting to the fundamental question of the film, on what consciousness and the soul is. Did the other characters really get resurrected or did they get copied as well? The only practical difference would be that Deon and Chappie might remember the moment of their "death" but Yolinda will not. Is that all that makes a soul?

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* The download of Yolanda Yo-landi ''doesn't'' resurrect her as a robot. It just creates a robot that thinks it's her. Yolanda dies for real. Deon as well; he dies of a gunshot wound while the proto-scout thinks itself as Deon.
** In a sense, that is fitting to the fundamental question of the film, on what consciousness and the soul is. Did the other characters really get resurrected or did they get copied as well? The only practical difference would be that Deon and Chappie might remember the moment of their "death" but Yolinda Yo-landi will not. Is that all that makes a soul?
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* The download of Yolanda ''doesn't'' resurrect her as a robot. It just creates a robot that thinks it's her. Yolanda dies for real. Deon as well; he dies of a gunshot wound while the proto-scout thinks itself as Deon.

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* The download of Yolanda ''doesn't'' resurrect her as a robot. It just creates a robot that thinks it's her. Yolanda dies for real. Deon as well; he dies of a gunshot wound while the proto-scout thinks itself as Deon.Deon.
** In a sense, that is fitting to the fundamental question of the film, on what consciousness and the soul is. Did the other characters really get resurrected or did they get copied as well? The only practical difference would be that Deon and Chappie might remember the moment of their "death" but Yolinda will not. Is that all that makes a soul?
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* The download of Yolanda ''doesn't'' resurrect her as a robot. It just creates a robot that thinks it's her. Yolanda dies for real. Deon as well; he dies of a gunshot wound while the proto-scout thinks itself as Deon.
* It could be argued that at least Deon was really himself, as Chappie claims to have found a way to transfer, and Deon was more "drag and dropped" then "copy and pasted."

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* The download of Yolanda ''doesn't'' resurrect her as a robot. It just creates a robot that thinks it's her. Yolanda dies for real. Deon as well; he dies of a gunshot wound while the proto-scout thinks itself as Deon.
* It could be argued that at least Deon was really himself, as Chappie claims to have found a way to transfer, and Deon was more "drag and dropped" then "copy and pasted."
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* It could be argued that at least Deon was really himself, as Chappie claims to have found a way to transfer, and Deon was more "drag and dropped" then "copy and pasted."
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* The download of Yolanda ''doesn't'' resurrect her as a robot. It just creates a robot that thinks it's her. Yolanda dies for real. Deon as well; he dies of a gunshot wound while the proto-scout thinks itself as Deon.

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