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** Not to mention the liberal use of NotTheFallThatKillsYou and SoftWater.* BadassAngster: Bruce/The Hulk. His {{Badass}} is actually fueled by his feelings of abandoment and anger problems, which trigger his transformations.

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** Not to mention the liberal use of NotTheFallThatKillsYou and SoftWater.SoftWater.
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* BadassAngster: Bruce/The Hulk. His {{Badass}} is actually fueled by his feelings of abandoment and anger problems, which trigger his transformations.

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* ArtisticLicensePhysics: Even if super-jumping is a power that the Hulk has in the comics, the jumps he make in this film just do not work. Something of that much mass would weigh a couple of tons, and yet he jumps like gravity is reduced for him. Gravity does not work that way.
** Not to mention the liberal use of NotTheFallThatKillsYou and SoftWater.
* BadassAngster: Bruce/The Hulk. His {{Badass}} is actually fueled by his feelings of abandoment and anger problems, which trigger his transformations.



* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic: Among other things, the [[TheDeadliestMushroom nuclear explosion]] associated with the classic Hulk origin is alluded to by the nuclear self-destruct going off when [[spoiler:David kills Bruce's mother in front of him -- the moment the Hulk was truly born]].
* YouFailPhysicsForever: Even if super-jumping is a power that the Hulk has in the comics, the jumps he make in this film just do not work. Something of that much mass would weigh a couple of tons, and yet he jumps like gravity is reduced for him. Gravity does not work that way.
** Not to mention the liberal use of NotTheFallThatKillsYou and SoftWater.

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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic: Among other things, the [[TheDeadliestMushroom nuclear explosion]] associated with the classic Hulk origin is alluded to by the nuclear self-destruct going off when [[spoiler:David kills Bruce's mother in front of him -- the moment the Hulk was truly born]].
* YouFailPhysicsForever: Even if super-jumping is a power that the Hulk has in the comics, the jumps he make in this film just do not work. Something of that much mass would weigh a couple of tons, and yet he jumps like gravity is reduced for him. Gravity does not work that way.
** Not to mention the liberal use of NotTheFallThatKillsYou and SoftWater.
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* OscarBait: A ''rare'' superhero film example. Stands in stark contrast to most CriticProof superhero movies including ''Film/TheIncredibleHulk''. Though this pleased the critics, this formula for a superhero film [[{{Understatement}} did not work well at all]] for ''Hulk'' at the box office, where it made a record drop in revenue from first to second week. It was so bad that film franchise was rebooted after only four years, retargeted to the more profitable LowestCommonDenominator.

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* OscarBait: A ''rare'' superhero film example. Stands in stark contrast to most CriticProof superhero movies including ''Film/TheIncredibleHulk''. Though this pleased the critics, this formula for a superhero film [[{{Understatement}} did not work well at all]] all for ''Hulk'' at the box office, where it made a record drop in revenue from first to second week. It was so bad that film franchise was rebooted after only four years, retargeted to the more profitable LowestCommonDenominator.
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* GuineaPigFamily: David experimented on Bruce.

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* GuineaPigFamily: David experimented on Bruce.FreudianExcuse: Bruce and Betty both. The film could have just as easily been called "Daddy Issues: The Movie".



* NeverTrustATrailer: The trailer made it seem like a regular action movie. Considering the Hulk takes 45 minutes to appear, it is far too focused on drama.

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* NeverTrustATrailer: The trailer made it seem like a regular action movie. Considering the Hulk takes 45 minutes to appear, it is far too more focused on drama.
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** Not as OscarBait as you'd think either. Both films have metacritic ratings around the 60's range, indicating mixed but positive reviews.
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* EveryHelicopterIsAHuey: General Ross co-ordinates the far more high-tech Hulkbusters from one on at least one occasion.
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Misusing tropes, and natter.


* ViewersAreGeniuses: Why this movie was critically well-received.
* ViewersAreMorons: Audiences tended to want an easy-going popcorn thriller with fast-moving action and "[[CatchPhrase Hulk smash!]]"
** That's hardly fair, the film has several things fundamentally wrong with it. The revised origin for the Hulk was fairly well received by both fans and the public alike but the cheesy scene transitions, hammy acting, forgettable special effects, silly story elements, and overall poor direction are what killed it. Even if critics loved certain elements of it the movie as whole was and still is regarded as a mis-step.
*** I'd think all of that's a point where Your Mileage May Vary, considering that the film's pretty much a critical favorite among film critics now, like myself and others, especially in the light of it's more average sequel/reboot. Really, it seems like the only people out there who have such a malignant impression of the film were what the OP is referring to, and they do state this pretty clearly, oftentimes. Whether or not that's justified considering the character is YMMV, as well.
**** And then there's the "Hulk Poodles."
***** To be fair, that's from the comics.

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*** And then there's the "Hulk Poodles."
**** To be fair, that's from the comics.

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*** I'd think all of that's a point where Your Mileage May Vary, considering that the film's pretty much a critical favorite among film critics now, like myself and others, especially in the light of it's more average sequel/reboot. Really, it seems like the only people out there who have such a malignant impression of the film were what the OP is referring to, and they do state this pretty clearly, oftentimes. Whether or not that's justified considering the character is YMMV, as well.
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And then there's the "Hulk Poodles."
**** ***** To be fair, that's from the comics.
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Dr. David Banner (Nick Nolte) was a researcher for the U.S. military, [[BioAugmentation finding ways to enhance soldiers genetically]]. Denied permission to use human test subjects, he [[ProfessorGuineaPig began experimenting on himself]], and later on his son Bruce, who inherited ''something'' from his father. Everything ends when Lt. Colonel "Thunderbolt" Ross discovers David's experiments, and Banner sets off the military base's (nuclear and green) self-destruct mechanism before ''something happens'' with him and Bruce's mother...

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Dr. David Banner (Nick Nolte) was a researcher for the U.S. military, [[BioAugmentation finding ways to enhance soldiers genetically]]. Denied permission to use human test subjects, he [[ProfessorGuineaPig began experimenting on himself]], and later on his son Bruce, who inherited ''something'' from his father. Everything ends when Lt. Colonel "Thunderbolt" Ross discovers David's experiments, and Banner sets off the military base's (nuclear and green) self-destruct mechanism before ''something happens'' with him and Bruce's mother...
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The film was ultimately a box office bust, it broke even but that's about it and has a "sequel"/reboot 5 years later with ''Film/TheIncredibleHulk''. It was (in)famous for having the opposite critical/audience reaction of the 2008 version. Audiences hated it, but critics gave it generally positive reviews. The comparison between this film and the 2008 version is considered one of the cardinal examples of how critics' reaction to a blockbuster-type film is often diametrically opposite to its chances of box office success -- if critics love the film, movie-going audiences are likely to hate it, and vice versa. This is related to how [[OscarBait most critics are intellectuals]] while entertainment tends to do better financially if it appeals to the LowestCommonDenominator, [[CriticProof even if critics hate it]]. And even then while audiences responded better to ''The Incredible Hulk'' it ''still'' wasn't that financially successful.

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The film was ultimately a box office bust, it broke even but that's about it and has a "sequel"/reboot 5 years later with ''Film/TheIncredibleHulk''. It was (in)famous for having the InternetBackdraft that accompanied its release, especially when a full cut was leaked for download to much nerd rage. Surprisingly, despite the sequel taking the [[LowestCommonDenominator precisely opposite critical/audience reaction of tack]], both films did almost exactly the 2008 version. Audiences hated it, but critics gave it generally positive reviews. The comparison between this film same [[http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/hulk/ with]] [[http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_incredible_hulk/ critics]] and the 2008 version is considered one of the cardinal examples [[http://boxofficemojo.com/showdowns/chart/?id=hulkvs.htm financially]], which may be a measure of how critics' reaction to a blockbuster-type popular the character is in the mainstream. Nonetheless, the 2003 film is often diametrically opposite to its chances slowly becoming something of box office success -- if critics love the film, movie-going audiences are likely to hate a CultClassic in certain circles; whatever else you can say about it, and vice versa. This is related to how [[OscarBait most critics are intellectuals]] while entertainment tends to do better financially if it appeals to the LowestCommonDenominator, [[CriticProof even if critics hate it]]. And even then while audiences responded better to ''The Incredible Hulk'' it ''still'' wasn't that financially successful.
it's certainly not a film people feel neutral about.

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** [[http://boxofficemojo.com/showdowns/chart/?id=hulkvs.htm Not as profitable as people think]]. Both films performed pretty much the same financially.



** Well, that and the fact that [[OverprotectiveDad he was dating his daughter]]. Ross pretty obviously falls on the "nature" side of "nature vs. nuture", one of the film's multiple subtexts.



** That's hardly fair, the film has several things fundamentally wrong with it. The revised origin for the Hulk was fairly well recieved by both fans and the public alike but the cheesy scene transitions, hammy acting, forgettable special effects, silly story elements, and overall poor direction are what killed it. Even if critics loved certain elements of it the movie as whole was and still is regarded as a mis-step.

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** That's hardly fair, the film has several things fundamentally wrong with it. The revised origin for the Hulk was fairly well recieved received by both fans and the public alike but the cheesy scene transitions, hammy acting, forgettable special effects, silly story elements, and overall poor direction are what killed it. Even if critics loved certain elements of it the movie as whole was and still is regarded as a mis-step.


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**** To be fair, that's from the comics.
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*** And then there's the "Hulk Poodles."
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* {{Narm}}: The (in)famous comic-styled scene transitions and {{split screen}} effects used wore out their welcome for many. In particular, the effect used when SmugSnake Talbot is killed in an explosion is an iconic head against wall moment for the film. (The AgonyBooth's recap of the film dubbed it '''[[http://agonybooth.com/recaps/Hulk_2003.aspx?Page=10 The Single Most Gloriously Stupid Image Ever Captured On Film]]'''.)
** The "Hulk poodles" Bruce's father David unleashes were derided from the moment rumors about them appeared.
** And let's not forget Nick Nolte's ''amazing'' bout of ham at the end.
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** And let's not forget Nick Nolte's ''amazing'' bout of ham at the end.
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See also the [[Game/{{Hulk}} game based on this movie]].

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(In)famous for having the opposite critical/audience reaction of the [[Film/TheIncredibleHulk 2008 version]]. Audiences hated it, but critics gave it generally positive reviews. The comparison between this film and the 2008 version is considered one of the cardinal examples of how critics' reaction to a superhero film is usually diametrically opposite to its chances of box office success--if critics love the film, movie-going audiences are likely to hate it, and vice versa. This is related to how [[OscarBait most critics are intellectuals]] while entertainment tends to do better financially if it appeals to the LowestCommonDenominator, [[CriticProof even if critics hate it]].

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(In)famous The film was ultimately a box office bust, it broke even but that's about it and has a "sequel"/reboot 5 years later with ''Film/TheIncredibleHulk''. It was (in)famous for having the opposite critical/audience reaction of the [[Film/TheIncredibleHulk 2008 version]].version. Audiences hated it, but critics gave it generally positive reviews. The comparison between this film and the 2008 version is considered one of the cardinal examples of how critics' reaction to a superhero blockbuster-type film is usually often diametrically opposite to its chances of box office success--if success -- if critics love the film, movie-going audiences are likely to hate it, and vice versa. This is related to how [[OscarBait most critics are intellectuals]] while entertainment tends to do better financially if it appeals to the LowestCommonDenominator, [[CriticProof even if critics hate it]].
it]]. And even then while audiences responded better to ''The Incredible Hulk'' it ''still'' wasn't that financially successful.
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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: The Hulk's rampage after breaking free of the military base.
* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: DannyElfman's music played during the above-mentioned CrowningMomentOfAwesome.



* LoveItOrHateIt: There is a number of people who genuinely like the film who consider it an interesting blending of 60's Hulk story telling with 80's character issues. And of course plenty hate it.



* TrueArtIsAngsty: My God, Bruce whines a lot.



* UncannyValley: Hulk's green CGI skin was completely opaque, which unsettled a lot of people.
** Not to mention that Ang Lee insisted on doing all of the motion control for the Hulk including his facial expressions. [[{{Understatement}} That wasn't a good combination]].
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* {{Narm}}: The (in)famous comic-styled scene transitions and {{split screen}} effects used wore out their welcome for many. In particular, the effect used when SmugSnake Talbot is killed in an explosion is an iconic {{Wallbanger}} for the film. (The AgonyBooth's recap of the film dubbed it '''[[http://agonybooth.com/recaps/Hulk_2003.aspx?Page=10 The Single Most Gloriously Stupid Image Ever Captured On Film]]'''.)

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* {{Narm}}: The (in)famous comic-styled scene transitions and {{split screen}} effects used wore out their welcome for many. In particular, the effect used when SmugSnake Talbot is killed in an explosion is an iconic {{Wallbanger}} head against wall moment for the film. (The AgonyBooth's recap of the film dubbed it '''[[http://agonybooth.com/recaps/Hulk_2003.aspx?Page=10 The Single Most Gloriously Stupid Image Ever Captured On Film]]'''.)
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* Not to mention the liberal use of NotTheFallThatKillsYou and SoftWater.

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* YouFailPhysicsForever: Even if super-jumping is a power that the Hulk has in the comics, the jumps he make in this film just do not work. Something of that much mass would weigh a couple of tons, and yet he jumps like gravity is reduced for him. Gravity does not work that way

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* YouFailPhysicsForever: Even if super-jumping is a power that the Hulk has in the comics, the jumps he make in this film just do not work. Something of that much mass would weigh a couple of tons, and yet he jumps like gravity is reduced for him. Gravity does not work that wayway.
* Not to mention the liberal use of NotTheFallThatKillsYou and SoftWater.

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* ChewingTheScenery: David Banner, just before his transformation.

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* TheCameo: Lou Ferrigno (the Hulk from the TV show) and StanLee (Hulk's creator) appear as security guards.
* ChewingTheScenery: David Banner, just before his transformation. Figurative and literal, as that page's image shows.



* GuineaPigFamily: David experimented on Bruce.



* IndecisiveMedium: It tries really hard to look like a comic.
* LargeHam: Nick Nolte is clearly having fun playing a wacko. And he finishes a hammy speech (with plenty of [[MilkingTheGiantCow gesturing]]) by ''literally'' ChewingTheScenery.



* MagicPants: Except for one scene where Bruce ends up naked after calming down, appears at full effect (and in a homage to the comics, they're purple).
* MythologyGag: "Puny human!" and Bruce's dad having his name in the [[Series/TheIncredibleHulk TV series]].



* OscarBait: A ''rare'' superhero film example. Stands in stark contrast to most CriticProof superhero movies including ''[[Film/TheIncredibleHulk The Incredible Hulk]]''. Though this pleased the critics, this formula for a superhero film [[{{Understatement}} did not work well at all]] for ''Hulk'' at the box office, where it made a record drop in revenue from first to second week. It was so bad that film franchise was rebooted after only four years, retargeted to the more profitable LowestCommonDenominator.

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* NeverTrustATrailer: The trailer made it seem like a regular action movie. Considering the Hulk takes 45 minutes to appear, it is far too focused on drama.
* OscarBait: A ''rare'' superhero film example. Stands in stark contrast to most CriticProof superhero movies including ''[[Film/TheIncredibleHulk The Incredible Hulk]]''.''Film/TheIncredibleHulk''. Though this pleased the critics, this formula for a superhero film [[{{Understatement}} did not work well at all]] for ''Hulk'' at the box office, where it made a record drop in revenue from first to second week. It was so bad that film franchise was rebooted after only four years, retargeted to the more profitable LowestCommonDenominator.LowestCommonDenominator.
* OverclockingAttack: How Bruce defeats his father.



* StillbornFranchise: As the quote atop that trope's page shows, they had to follow this with a reboot.
* StrongAsTheyNeedToBe: The size also varies with the strength.
* TrueArtIsAngsty: My God, Bruce whines a lot.



** Not to mention that Ang Lee insisted on doing all of the motion control for the Hulk including his facial expressions. [[{{Understatement}} The wasn't a good combination]]

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* LoveItOrHateIt: There is a number of people who genuinely like the film who consider it an interesting blending of 60's Hulk story telling with 80's character issues. And of course plenty hate it.
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: DannyElfman's music played during the above-mentioned CrowningMomentOfAwesome.
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* {{Angst}}: Boatloads of it.
* ArchnemesisDad: David to Bruce
* BadassAngster: Bruce/The Hulk. His {{Badass}} is actually fueled by his feelings of abandoment and anger problems, which trigger his transformations.
* BeardOfEvil: David Banner.
* ChewingTheScenery: David Banner, just before his transformation.
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Years later, Bruce [[strike:Banner]] "Kenzler" (Eric Bana) is an emotionally repressed researcher at UC Berkeley working on using a combination of gamma radiation and {{nanomachines}} for medical purposes; they're able to get the test animals to heal, but they keep exploding in cancerous growth. Adding to his stress are his co-worker and ex-girlfriend Betty Ross (Jennifer Connelly), and Glenn Talbot, who's trying to buy Bruce's lab from Betty for ''General'' Ross. Bruce is forced to [[TakingTheBullet Take The Bullet]] for a lab tech who got trapped with a gamma-ray emitter about to go off and nanomachines in the air, and... wakes up later completely normal. Well, ''better'' than normal; all of his minor aches and pains have somehow healed themselves. Still, somehow he survived when every frog who went through this exploded -- and the weird new janitor (Nick Nolte) is very interested in what Bruce has done...

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Years later, Bruce [[strike:Banner]] "Kenzler" (Eric Bana) is an emotionally repressed researcher at UC Berkeley working on using a combination of gamma radiation and {{nanomachines}} for medical purposes; they're able to get the test animals to heal, but they keep exploding in cancerous growth. Adding to his stress are his co-worker and ex-girlfriend Betty Ross (Jennifer Connelly), and Glenn Talbot, who's trying to buy Bruce's lab from Betty for on behalf of her father, ''General'' Ross. Bruce is forced to [[TakingTheBullet Take The Bullet]] for a lab tech who [[FreakLabAccident got trapped with a gamma-ray emitter about to go off and nanomachines in the air, air]], and... wakes up later completely normal. Well, ''better'' than normal; all of his minor aches and pains have somehow healed themselves. Still, somehow he survived when every frog who went through this exploded -- and Talbot, Ross, and the weird new janitor (Nick Nolte) is are all very interested in what Bruce has done...
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** That's hardly fair, the film has several things fundamentally wrong with it. The revised origin for the Hulk was fairly well recieved by both fans and the public alike but the cheesy scene transitions, hammy acting, forgettable special effects, silly story elements, and overall poor direction are what killed it. Even if critics loved certain elements of it the movie as whole was and still is regarded as a mis-step.

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* YouFailPhysicsForever: Even if it is a power that the Hulk has in the comics, the jumps he make just do not work. Something of that much mass would weigh a couple of tons, and yet he jumps like gravity is reduced for him. Gravity does not work that way



* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic: Among other things, the [[TheDeadliestMushroom nuclear explosion]] associated with the classic Hulk origin is alluded to by the nuclear self-destruct going off when [[spoiler:David kills Bruce's mother in front of him -- the moment the Hulk was truly born]].

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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic: Among other things, the [[TheDeadliestMushroom nuclear explosion]] associated with the classic Hulk origin is alluded to by the nuclear self-destruct going off when [[spoiler:David kills Bruce's mother in front of him -- the moment the Hulk was truly born]].born]].
* YouFailPhysicsForever: Even if super-jumping is a power that the Hulk has in the comics, the jumps he make in this film just do not work. Something of that much mass would weigh a couple of tons, and yet he jumps like gravity is reduced for him. Gravity does not work that way
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* YouFailPhysicsForever: Even if it is a power that the Hulk has in the comics, the jumps he make just do not work. Something of that much mass would weigh a couple of tons, and yet he jumps like gravity is reduced for him. Gravity does not work that way

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