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[[caption-width-right:350:''Same game. [[ForWantOfANail New rules]].'']]

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* AlternateUniverseFic: There are quite a few changes implemented in this novelization that differ from the original ''Persona 5'' canon.
** Rather than Sojiro being the one to take in Akira, who asked by the friend of his parents, his father instead asks Sae, whose father he was once friends with, to take care of Akira. This not only leads to Akira "befriending" Sae earlier but also becomes acquainted with Makoto.
** Makoto shows Akira the way to Shujin Academy, which leads to him arriving on time. This also leads him to meeting Ryuji and Ann much later, the latter of which only recognizes him as the kid who's sitting behind her in class.
** Makoto is dragged into the Metaverse several months ahead, as Ryuji's big mouth gets them both sucked in. Later chapters also have her join Akira, Morgana and Ryuji, acting as one of the founding members of the Phantom Thieves.



* TheCameo:
** [[spoiler:[[VideoGame/Persona3 Elizabeth and Minato/Makoto]]]] make an appearance. The latter asks why Akira seeks power and gives him Orpheus. The former watches on before quietly asking Akira to look after Orpheus before taking her leave.
** [[VideoGame/Persona4 Tohru Adachi]] is mentioned during Sae and Goro's meeting discussing the Mental Shutdown cases. After spending several years in prison, he's finally being released.



* ContinuityCameo:
** [[spoiler:[[VideoGame/Persona3 Elizabeth and Minato/Makoto]]]] make an appearance. The latter asks why Akira seeks power and gives him Orpheus. The former watches on before quietly asking Akira to look after Orpheus before taking her leave.
** [[VideoGame/Persona4 Tohru Adachi]] is mentioned during Sae and Goro's meeting discussing the Mental Shutdown cases. After spending several years in prison, he's finally being released.



* ForWantOfANail: There are quite a few changes implemented in this novelization.
** Rather than Sojiro being the one to take in Akira, who asked by the friend of his parents, his father instead asks Sae, whose father he was once friends with, to take care of Akira. This not only leads to Akira "befriending" Sae earlier but also becomes acquainted with Makoto.
** Makoto shows Akira the way to Shujin Academy, which leads to him arriving on time. This also leads him to meeting Ryuji and Ann much later, the latter of which only recognizes him as the kid who's sitting behind her in class.
** Makoto is dragged into the Metaverse several months ahead, as Ryuji's big mouth gets them both sucked in. Later chapters also have her join Akira, Morgana and Ryuji, acting as one of the founding members of the Phantom Thieves.
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* {{Synchronization}}: Much like ''Anime/Persona4TheAnimation'', Persona-users feel the damage taken by their Personas. It's even taken UpToEleven at one point when Arsene is being strangled by a Shadow, causing Akira to suffocate.

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* {{Synchronization}}: Much like ''Anime/Persona4TheAnimation'', Persona-users feel the damage taken by their Personas. It's even taken UpToEleven at At one point when Arsene is being strangled by a Shadow, causing Akira to suffocate.

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* NotSoDifferentRemark: Shadow Kamoshida tries to pull this with Ann, claiming that she was using Shiho for her own goals and, like everyone else, ignored the fact that Shiho was being abused. It seems like it'll stick, but Carmen's interference leads to Ann successfully awakening.

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Shadow Kamoshida tries to pull this with Ann, claiming that she was using Shiho for her own goals and, like everyone else, ignored the fact that Shiho was being abused. It seems like it'll stick, but Carmen's interference leads to Ann successfully awakening.awakening.
** Suguru tries to pull this on Makoto and Ann during their subsequent Persona awakenings. With Makoto, he flat-out calls her out on her inaction against him, despite knowing what he was up to, because she was using everyone around her for personal gain in order to get a college recommendation and went to Kobayakawa if something didn't go her way. With Ann, he makes a similar argument, albeit pointing out that Ann knew that Shiho was being abused but did nothing and, like everyone else, turned a blind-eye away from it and was using Shiho's status as a prominent Volleyball player to her advantage, leeching off of her achievements. [[UnstoppableRage Neither girl is taking it and happily rips his ass a new one when they awaken to their Personas.]]
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* NotSoDifferent: Shadow Kamoshida tries to pull this with Ann, claiming that she was using Shiho for her own goals and, like everyone else, ignored the fact that Shiho was being abused. It seems like it'll stick, but Carmen's interference leads to Ann successfully awakening.

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* NotSoDifferent: NotSoDifferentRemark: Shadow Kamoshida tries to pull this with Ann, claiming that she was using Shiho for her own goals and, like everyone else, ignored the fact that Shiho was being abused. It seems like it'll stick, but Carmen's interference leads to Ann successfully awakening.
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* AdaptationNameChange: The author has Joker go by Ren Amamiya, his name in ''Anime/Persona5TheAnimation'' instead of his manga name Akira Kurusu from the manga.

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* AdaptationNameChange: The author has Joker go by Ren Amamiya, his name in ''Anime/Persona5TheAnimation'' instead of his manga name Akira Kurusu from the manga.Kurusu.

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!!This story contains examples of the following tropes:

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-->'''Igor:''' [[SomethingOnlyTheyWouldSay Welcome to the Velvet Room, my dear young man.]]

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-->'''Igor:''' [[SomethingOnlyTheyWouldSay Welcome to the Velvet Room, my dear young man.]]]]
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* AdaptationDeviation: Unlike in the old version, where he lives in the Niijima Family Household, Ren lives in the same apartment complex as them, with his apartment right next door to Sae and Makoto's.
* AdaptationNameChange: The author has Joker go by Ren Amamiya, his name in ''Anime/Persona5TheAnimation'' instead of his manga name Akira Kurusu from the manga.
* AdaptedOut: Content from ''Royal'' will not be featured in the fanfic similar to the previous version of the story, although whereas the author felt that it was too late to include Kasumi and Maruki in ''Hoshi to Bokura to'', their absence is due to [=SkyRig=] adapting the vanilla storyline.
* ApatheticTeacher: Kawakami is not very thrilled to have Ren in her class and would much rather pawn him off to someone like Ushimaru, who is much more capable in handling who she thinks is going to be a problem child.
* BlatantLies: When Kawakami asks why Ren is going to be in her class, Kobayakawa tells her it's because she's the only one whose class has a vacancy. This is in spite of the fact that someone from Ushimaru's class dropped out for unknown reasons, also leaving him with a vacancy.
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''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12456736/1/Persona-5-Hoshi-to-Bokura-to Persona 5: Hoshi to Bokura to]]'' is a ''VideoGame/Persona5'' fanfiction story, written by [[https://www.fanfiction.net/u/4746382/Starlight-s-Poet Starlight's Poet]]. It is an AlternateUniverse story and novelization of the game, with the inclusion of minor changes to the story and [[WhatCouldHaveBeen scrapped ideas from the game's development]].

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''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12456736/1/Persona-5-Hoshi-to-Bokura-to Persona 5: Hoshi to Bokura to]]'' is a ''VideoGame/Persona5'' fanfiction story, written by [[https://www.fanfiction.net/u/4746382/Starlight-s-Poet Starlight's Poet]].SkyRig]]. It is an AlternateUniverse story and novelization of the game, with the inclusion of minor changes to the story and [[WhatCouldHaveBeen scrapped ideas from the game's development]].
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(As of 4/4/2020, the story has since been discontinued in favor of a SoftReboot titled "Persona 5: With the Stars and Us" on account of the author's dissatisfaction with the story's pacing and poor grammar. As of this writing, the rewrite has yet to be posted.)

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(As of 4/4/2020, On April 4th, 2020, the story has since been author discontinued in favor of ''Hoshi to Bokura to'' and chose to write a SoftReboot titled "Persona 5: With the Stars and Us" on account of the author's dissatisfaction with the story's due to slow pacing and poor grammar. As of this writing, The rewrite, ''With the rewrite has yet to Stars and Us'' was published on April 7th, 2020. It can be posted.)
read [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13545326/1/ here]]
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(As of 4/4/2020, the story has since been discontinued in favor of a SoftReboot titled "Persona 5: With the Stars and Us" on account of the author's dissatisfaction with the story's pacing and poor grammar. As of this writing, the rewrite has yet to be posted.)
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* CurbStompBattle: {{Subverted|Trope}}. Unlike most stories where after getting a Persona, Akira is shown to struggle on his own. In one chapter, after getting Arsène, his Persona is impaled by Bicorn, and in another chapter, his Persona--and by extension, him--gets strangled by a Silky.

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* CurbStompBattle: {{Subverted|Trope}}. Unlike most stories where after getting a Persona, Akira is shown to struggle on his own. In one chapter, after getting Arsène, Arsene, his Persona is impaled by Bicorn, and in another chapter, his Persona--and by extension, him--gets strangled by a Silky.



** Arsène and Orpheus. The narrative has Arsène encouraging Akira to pursue the life of a Phantom Thief and usually bolsters his more raw emotions, such as his anger. Orpheus is the opposite, as he tries to placate Akira to prevent him from acting too wildly.

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** Arsène Arsene and Orpheus. The narrative has Arsène Arsene encouraging Akira to pursue the life of a Phantom Thief and usually bolsters his more raw emotions, such as his anger. Orpheus is the opposite, as he tries to placate Akira to prevent him from acting too wildly.



* GuardianEntity: Par the course for the Personas, who interact with their users in the form of a "pulse," usually to comfort them or to nudge them in the right direction. Arsène seems to be the most active, acting as the devil on Akira's shoulder as it tries to have him pursue the life of a Phantom Thieve, mildly even suggesting that no one would miss Kamoshida if he died.

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* GuardianEntity: Par the course for the Personas, who interact with their users in the form of a "pulse," usually to comfort them or to nudge them in the right direction. Arsène Arsene seems to be the most active, acting as the devil on Akira's shoulder as it tries to have him pursue the life of a Phantom Thieve, mildly even suggesting that no one would miss Kamoshida if he died.



* OOCIsSeriousBusiness: Orpheus is presented as the [[RedOniBlueOni calmer, cooler counterpart]] to Arsène, [[spoiler:but he's just as outraged and disgusted as the later when Akira discovers Kamoshida sexually assaulted Shiho]].

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* OOCIsSeriousBusiness: Orpheus is presented as the [[RedOniBlueOni calmer, cooler counterpart]] to Arsène, Arsene, [[spoiler:but he's just as outraged and disgusted as the later when Akira discovers Kamoshida sexually assaulted Shiho]].



* RedOniBlueOni: Arsène, who encourages Akira to act on his raw emotions, is the red. Orpheus, who encourages Akira to be more levelheaded, is the blue.

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* RedOniBlueOni: Arsène, Arsene, who encourages Akira to act on his raw emotions, is the red. Orpheus, who encourages Akira to be more levelheaded, is the blue.



* {{Synchronization}}: Much like ''Anime/Persona4TheAnimation'', Persona-users feel the damage taken by their Personas. It's even taken UpToEleven at one point when Arsène is being strangled by a Shadow, causing Akira to suffocate.

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* {{Synchronization}}: Much like ''Anime/Persona4TheAnimation'', Persona-users feel the damage taken by their Personas. It's even taken UpToEleven at one point when Arsène Arsene is being strangled by a Shadow, causing Akira to suffocate.
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-->''The world is not as it should be.''
-->''It's filled with distortion, and "ruin" will soon descend.''
-->''However...there are those who would challenge fate, in desire for change.''
-->''Since time immemorial, they are known as...''
-->''"Tricksters."''

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* IntrepidReporter: Aikawa, a third-year who happens to be a member of the Journalism Club. She's apparently settling into this role by looking into Akira's case, noticing that virtually no one, not a single media source, was able to uncover the identity of the man Akira supposedly attacked. She even questions whether or not Akira actually did attack the man unprovoked.
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* MythologyGag: In ''21st Heist'', Akira reveals to Aikawa that, before his arrest, he was a student at [[VideoGame/Persona2 Seven Sisters High School]].
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->'''Igor''': [[ForWantOfANail Welcome to the Velvet Room,]] [[WhamLine my dear young man.]]

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->'''Igor''': [[ForWantOfANail Welcome to the Velvet Room,]] [[WhamLine my dear young man.]]
-->''The world is not as it should be.''
-->''It's filled with distortion, and "ruin" will soon descend.''
-->''However...there are those who would challenge fate, in desire for change.''
-->''Since time immemorial, they are known as...''
-->''"Tricksters."''
-->--'''Opening Narration for Chapters 1-20

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One such mystery unravels at Shujin Academy, where he and two others discover the mysterious ''Metaverse''. A world based on human thoughts.

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One such mystery unravels at Shujin Academy, where he and two others discover the mysterious ''Metaverse''. A ''Metaverse'', a parallel world based on human thoughts.
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** Post-change of heart Kamoshida specifically apologizes for his actions against Ryuji and the track team.



** Yaldabaoth's control over the Velvet Room, fake Igor and all. [[invoked]] WordOfGod assures everyone that he still has a major role to play in the story.

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** Yaldabaoth's control over the Velvet Room, fake Igor and all. [[invoked]] WordOfGod assures The author's notes assure everyone that he still has a major role to play in the story.



** [[invoked]] WordOfGod reveals that Hifumi Togo will be joining the Phantom Thieves, as she was meant to before being DemotedToExtra in the final game.

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** [[invoked]] WordOfGod reveals The author's notes reveal that Hifumi Togo will be joining the Phantom Thieves, as she was meant to before being DemotedToExtra in the final game.



* FailureGambit: Kamoshida appoints his toady Yamauchi to revive the track team so it can crash and burn and make him look better.



* HollywoodLaw: It's mentioned that Tohru Adachi is being released from prison. The idea of a man only getting four and a third years in prison, including the time it would have taken to process him, for two murders and six attempted murders by proxy, when all of his victims except ''one'' were ''minors'', is utterly absurd even if he has been cooperative after being taken into custody.



* KarmaHoudini: Tohru Adachi gets a mere four years and change in prison for two murders and six attempted murders by proxy, a pitiful slap on the wrist.



-->"...Do you want to get smacked?"

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-->"...--->"...Do you want to get smacked?"



* {{Synchronization}}: Much like the [[Anime/Persona4TheAnimation Persona 4 anime]], Persona-users feel the damage taken by their Personas. It's even taken UpToEleven at one point when Arsène is being strangled by a Shadow, causing Akira to suffocate.

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* {{Synchronization}}: Much like the [[Anime/Persona4TheAnimation Persona 4 anime]], ''Anime/Persona4TheAnimation'', Persona-users feel the damage taken by their Personas. It's even taken UpToEleven at one point when Arsène is being strangled by a Shadow, causing Akira to suffocate.
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* EvolvingTitleScreen: A non-video game example. For the first couple dozen chapters, each chapter opens up with a small bit similar to the one Yaldabaoth gives when players first begin the game, referring to those who resist the corruption of the world and desire change as "tricksters." After Ann joins the team, the narration names these Trickster "The Phantom Thieves of Hearts."

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* EvolvingTitleScreen: A non-video game example. For the first couple dozen chapters, each chapter opens up with a small bit similar to the one Yaldabaoth gives when players first begin the game, referring to those who resist the corruption of the world and desire change as "tricksters."Tricksters." After Ann joins the team, the narration names these Trickster Tricksters "The Phantom Thieves of Hearts."Hearts".
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''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12456736/1/Persona-5-Hoshi-to-Bokura-to Persona 5: Hoshi to Bokura to]]'' is a ''VideoGame/Persona5'' fanfiction story, written by [[https://www.fanfiction.net/u/4746382/Starlight-s-Poet Starlight's Poet]], formerly called Demons Anarchy of Pride. It is an AlternateUniverse story and novelization of the game, with the inclusion of minor changes to the story and [[WhatCouldHaveBeen scrapped ideas from the game's development]].

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''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12456736/1/Persona-5-Hoshi-to-Bokura-to Persona 5: Hoshi to Bokura to]]'' is a ''VideoGame/Persona5'' fanfiction story, written by [[https://www.fanfiction.net/u/4746382/Starlight-s-Poet Starlight's Poet]], formerly called Demons Anarchy of Pride.Poet]]. It is an AlternateUniverse story and novelization of the game, with the inclusion of minor changes to the story and [[WhatCouldHaveBeen scrapped ideas from the game's development]].



** Haru was given a brief EarlyBirdCameo during the Summer Festival and made another one during the Hawaii trip. She's introduced much earlier to Akira, first unnamed by accidentally bumping into him him, then again several chapters later before properly introducing herself to him.

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** Haru was given a brief EarlyBirdCameo during the Summer Festival and made another one during the Hawaii trip. She's introduced much earlier to Akira, first unnamed by accidentally bumping into him him, then again several chapters later before properly introducing herself to him.



** It's a {{Downplayed}} example since she was not a minor character by any means, but Makoto goes from being one of the later members of the Phantom Thieves to one of the founding members, awakening her Persona alongside Ryuji and becoming a member of the team in their first ever mission of stealing Kamoshida's heart.

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** It's a {{Downplayed}} {{Downplayed|Trope}} example since she was not a minor character by any means, but Makoto goes from being one of the later members of the Phantom Thieves to one of the founding members, awakening her Persona alongside Ryuji and becoming a member of the team in their first ever mission of stealing Kamoshida's heart.



* CurbStompBattle: {{Subverted}}. Unlike most stories where after getting a Persona, Akira is shown to struggle on his own. In one chapter, after getting Arsène, his Persona is impaled by Bicorn, and in another chapter, his Persona--and by extension, him--gets strangled by a Silky.

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* CurbStompBattle: {{Subverted}}.{{Subverted|Trope}}. Unlike most stories where after getting a Persona, Akira is shown to struggle on his own. In one chapter, after getting Arsène, his Persona is impaled by Bicorn, and in another chapter, his Persona--and by extension, him--gets strangled by a Silky.



** In the flashback showing Akira's meeting with Shido for the first time, he's visibly shocked by what he had done and weakly apologizes for busting open the guy's head. [[{{Subverted}} He's not so sorry after Shido throws his life down the toilet after he sues him]].

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** In the flashback showing Akira's meeting with Shido for the first time, he's visibly shocked by what he had done and weakly apologizes for busting open the guy's head. [[{{Subverted}} [[SubvertedTrope He's not so sorry after Shido throws his life down the toilet after he sues him]].
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** Haru was given a brief EarlyBirdCameo during the Summer Festival and made another one during the Hawaii trip. She's introduced much earlier to Akira, first unnamed by accidentally bumping into him him, then again several chapters later before properly introducing herself to him.

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