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* CripplingOverspecialization: All five of Salem's children have exactly one skill and absolutely nothing else; Jaune has diplomacy, Pyrrha has combat, Blake has spy work, Emerald is an assassin, and Weiss is a mage. The result is that while they're absolutely unstoppable when they're together, on their own they're all insecure children with no idea what's going on or how to solve it beyond their one area of expertise, which means each of them almost start wars by complete accident.
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* DeconstructedTrope: After [[spoiler:Blake and Pyrrha confess their feelings for Jaune, Blake begins stripping so that they can have a threesome and consummate their relationship. In any other story, [[CoitusEnsues coitus would ensue]] and then they'd be in a happy three-way relationship. In this one, Pyrrha and Jaune aren't comfortable with it, and Blake gets about ten seconds away from being a full-fledged rapist before she realizes that she's pressuring them too much]].

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* DeconstructedTrope: After [[spoiler:Blake and Pyrrha confess their feelings for Jaune, Blake begins stripping so that they can have a threesome and consummate their relationship. In any other story, [[CoitusEnsues coitus would ensue]] ensue and then they'd be in a happy three-way relationship. In this one, Pyrrha and Jaune aren't comfortable with it, and Blake gets about ten seconds away from being a full-fledged rapist before she realizes that she's pressuring them too much]].
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** Salem's original plan has [[UpToEleven two in one]]. The original plan relied on Cinder's desperation to prove herself, her children's lack of moral agency, and the humans' paranoia in order to start the war with humanity that she seeks. [[spoiler:Unfortunately for her, that plan failed because her children proved themselves to have more self-control than she previously thought... but it's no matter, because in the process of proving that point, they integrated themselves with Cinder, giving her both their trust and the ability to betray them later down the line]].

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** Salem's original plan has [[UpToEleven two in one]].one. The original plan relied on Cinder's desperation to prove herself, her children's lack of moral agency, and the humans' paranoia in order to start the war with humanity that she seeks. [[spoiler:Unfortunately for her, that plan failed because her children proved themselves to have more self-control than she previously thought... but it's no matter, because in the process of proving that point, they integrated themselves with Cinder, giving her both their trust and the ability to betray them later down the line]].
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* TookALevelInKindness: Losing his youngest daughter to Salem has made Jacques into a much kinder person who cares about his remaining family.
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* BlueBloods: The Claimed are all children of prominent families from each Kingdom (and Menagerie). Emerald is the only one who is explicitly of noble blood... or rather, she's supposed to be, but the King and Queen of Vacuo refused to give up their real daughter and just found a random orphan girl instead.

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* BlueBloods: BlueBlood: The Claimed are all children of prominent families from each Kingdom (and Menagerie). Emerald is the only one who is explicitly of noble blood... or rather, she's supposed to be, but the King and Queen of Vacuo refused to give up their real daughter and just found a random orphan girl instead.
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* TheAce: With Pyrrha out of the world for fifteen years, Yang takes a similar role. She's the vaunted fighter with the powerful Semblance, to the point that she even performed Pyrrha's canon feat of beating all of team CRDL at once. She's given the nickname "Unbreakable," and is the leader of team YRRN. This is all largely due to Summer's influence getting her past her UnskilledButStrong and immaturity faster than in canon.

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* TheAce: With Pyrrha out of the world for fifteen years, Yang takes a similar role. She's the vaunted fighter with the powerful Semblance, to the point that she even performed Pyrrha's canon feat of beating all of team CRDL at once. She's given the nickname "Unbreakable," and is the leader of team YRRN. This is all largely due to Summer's influence getting her past her UnskilledButStrong and nature & immaturity faster than in canon.



* AdaptationRelationshipOverhaul: Ruby at one point refers to a "Nana Maria", clearly referring to fellow Silver-Eyed Warrior Maria Calavera and implying that the two are a lot closer than they are in canon.

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* AdaptationRelationshipOverhaul: Ruby at one point refers to a "Nana Maria", clearly referring to fellow Silver-Eyed Silver-eyed Warrior Maria Calavera and implying that the two are a lot closer than they are in canon.



* BreakingSpeech: Salem gives one to [[spoiler:Jaune detailing how her plan to have "children" was, in reality, a long con to raise his sisters as weapons capable of wiping out humanity - and managing to put all of the blame onto him in the process]].
* CanonMarchesOn: The author contemplated retconing Cinder's backstory into her canon one following the release of "Midnight", but they ultimately decided that their original backstory worked better [[spoiler:and they're not that different in the long run anyway]].

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* BreakingSpeech: Salem gives one to [[spoiler:Jaune detailing how her plan to have "children" was, in reality, a long con to raise his sisters as weapons capable of wiping out humanity - and managing to put all of the blame onto him in the process]].
* CanonMarchesOn: The author contemplated retconing ret-coning Cinder's backstory into her canon one following the release of "Midnight", but they ultimately decided that their original backstory worked better [[spoiler:and they're not that different in the long run anyway]].



* TheChessmaster: Cinder, as in canon. She spends the entire Beacon arc doing everything possible to start a war between Salem and humanity, all while appearing to be a relatively reasonable woman to most and an outright mother figure to the Claimed. [[spoiler:It actually becomes {{deconstructed}} later on, as this is the ''only'' thing that Cinder is truly good at, and it leaves her a depressed and self-pitying wreck of a person who can't help but create contingency plans against people who care about her just because she ''might'' need it]].

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* TheChessmaster: Cinder, as in canon. She spends the entire Beacon arc doing everything possible to start a war between Salem and humanity, all while appearing to be a relatively reasonable woman to most and an outright mother figure to the Claimed. [[spoiler:It actually becomes {{deconstructed}} later on, as this is the ''only'' thing that Cinder is truly good at, and it leaves her a depressed and self-pitying self pitying wreck of a person who can't help but create contingency plans against people who care about her just because she ''might'' need it]].



** Weiss: TheArchmage. Weiss is a prodigious witch, capable of magical feats that even ''Salem'' couldn't pull off with her full power. Unfortunately, she is as powerful as she is because she absorbed more of the Darkness than her siblings, so she's [[{{Womanchild}} childish]] and all-but completely insane. The result is that she does absolutely nothing to help the situation; every time she tries to help, her inability to understand what's going on around her only makes things worse, and [[spoiler:it takes a SanityStrengthening moment that almost kills her for her to finally help]].

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** Weiss: TheArchmage. Weiss is a prodigious witch, capable of magical feats that even ''Salem'' couldn't pull off with her full power. Unfortunately, she is as powerful as she is because she absorbed more of the Darkness than her siblings, so she's [[{{Womanchild}} childish]] and all-but all but completely insane. The result is that she does absolutely nothing to help the situation; every time she tries to help, her inability to understand what's going on around her only makes things worse, and [[spoiler:it takes a SanityStrengthening moment that almost kills her for her to finally help]].



* DramaPreservingHandicap: Weiss is actually a better mage than Salem, with a more intimate knowledge of the Darkness and magic in general. However, she's all-but insane and locked in a [[{{Womanchild}} childlike mentality]] due to her trauma. It says a lot that she is ''still'' one of the greatest threats the Kingdoms have ever faced with that handicap. [[spoiler:When she temporarily makes herself sane, she is able to find and teleport to Jaune from across the city, which is specifically noted to be something Salem would find impossible]].

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* DramaPreservingHandicap: Weiss is actually a better mage than Salem, with a more intimate knowledge of the Darkness and magic in general. However, she's all-but all but insane and locked in a [[{{Womanchild}} childlike mentality]] due to her trauma. It says a lot that she is ''still'' one of the greatest threats the Kingdoms have ever faced with that handicap. [[spoiler:When she temporarily makes herself sane, she is able to find and teleport to Jaune from across the city, which is specifically noted to be something Salem would find impossible]].



* DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale: Horrifically averted. [[spoiler:After Blake reveals how her and Pyrrha feel about Jaune, she tries to pressure them into a threesome so that they can consummate their relationship. However, when she realizes that Jaune and Pyrrha are clearly uncomfortable with it yet aren't comfortable saying no, she's horrified and breaks down. On the other hand, [[DownplayedTrope Yang comforts her by telling her that, luckily, she didn't go too far over the line and can make up for it]].]]

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* DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale: Horrifically averted. [[spoiler:After Blake reveals how her and she & Pyrrha feel about Jaune, she tries to pressure them into a threesome so that they can consummate their relationship. However, when she realizes that Jaune and Pyrrha are clearly uncomfortable with it yet it,as well as aren't comfortable saying no, she's horrified and breaks down. On the other hand, [[DownplayedTrope Yang comforts her by telling her that, luckily, she didn't go too far over the line and can make up for it]].]]
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* DeconstructedTrope: After [[spoiler:Blake and Pyrrha confess their feelings for Jaune, Blake begins stripping so that they can have a threesome and consummate their relationship. In any other story, [[CoitusEnsues coitus would ensue]] and then they'd be in a happy three-way relationship. In this one, Pyrrha and Jaune aren't comfortable with it, and Blake gets about ten seconds away from being a full-fledged rapist before she realizes that she's pressuring them too much]].



* RealityEnsues: After [[spoiler:Blake and Pyrrha confess their feelings for Jaune, Blake begins stripping so that they can have a threesome and consummate their relationship. In any other story, [[CoitusEnsues coitus would ensue]] and then they'd be in a happy three-way relationship. In this one, Pyrrha and Jaune aren't comfortable with it, and Blake gets about ten seconds away from being a full-fledged rapist before she realizes that she's pressuring them too much]].
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--> '''Emerald''': You don't get it. I'm mad at you b-because... Because you're ''better than me''. You've always been the one who I turned to when I needed to not feel afraid. You're stronger than ''Mother'' and you shouldn't have to be afraid of anything! And it's… it's ''frustrating'' that you're letting yourself get pushed around like this!\\

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--> '''Emerald''': You don't get it. I'm mad at you b-because... Because you're ''better than me''. You've always been the one who I turned to when I needed to not feel afraid. You're stronger than ''Mother'' and you shouldn't have to be afraid of anything! And it's… it's... it's ''frustrating'' that you're letting yourself get pushed around like this!\\
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* {{Realpolitik}}:
** One of the key parts of the story. Yes Salem is an unrepentant monster, but she is also the head of state of the most powerful nation on the planet. The other nations simply cannot ignore her, or even censure her. As long as they play her games, she will negotiate. Even with her negotiating in bad faith, it's still better than her just sending the Grimm against everyone.
** This is also one of the biggest factors working against Jaune. All he wants is peace, but even if everyone believed that (which they don't), they have other priorities.
** After chapter 44, [[spoiler:all five of the Claimed are immortal. Mention is made of the world governments scrambling to figure out how to deal with ''five'' unkillable abominations instead of just one. Their first move is "give them whatever they ask for and be very happy they just wanted a visit from their friends."]]

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* DidntThinkThisThrough: After [[spoiler:Salem is killed]], Ruby declares that she and Weiss are having a sleepover. It's only after Weiss agrees that Ruby realizes that she has no idea how to throw one because she's never had one before.



** Ruby is still in Yang's year in Beacon even though she didn't have her canon fight with Torchwick before the year started.

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** Ruby is still in Yang's year in Beacon even though she didn't have her canon fight with Torchwick before the year started. In this case, it's because Salem's existence causes the Vale Council to put more emphasis on the training of Silver-Eyed Warriors, meaning they invited her to Beacon early.


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* NeverGotToSayGoodbye: [[spoiler:The biggest reason why Emerald struggles to get over Cinder's death is because she died before they could have any real closure]].


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* RagtagBunchOfMisfits: Yang notes how odd it is that out of everyone requested to [[spoiler:visit the Grimmlands following Salem's death]], the group of Yang, Ruby, Summer, Taiyang, and Qrow is probably the oddest group of people to be chosen for the job.
--> ''Two of them weren't even old enough to drink!''
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* TheAce: With Pyrrha out of the world for fifteen years, Yang takes a similar role. She's the vaunted fighter with the powerful Semblance, to the point that she even performed Pyrrha's canon feat of beating all of team CDNL at once. She's given the nickname "Unbreakable," and is the leader of team YRRN. This is all largely due to Summer's influence getting her past her UnskilledButStrong and immaturity faster than in canon.

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* TheAce: With Pyrrha out of the world for fifteen years, Yang takes a similar role. She's the vaunted fighter with the powerful Semblance, to the point that she even performed Pyrrha's canon feat of beating all of team CDNL CRDL at once. She's given the nickname "Unbreakable," and is the leader of team YRRN. This is all largely due to Summer's influence getting her past her UnskilledButStrong and immaturity faster than in canon.

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** While Weiss' {{Familiar}} is clearly [[spoiler:her birth mother Willow]], it's not clear if it's the actual spirit of the person or if it's just a facsimile of them.

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** While Weiss' {{Familiar}} is clearly [[spoiler:her birth mother Willow]], it's not clear if it's the actual spirit of the person or if it's just a facsimile of them. [[spoiler:Salem implies that Weiss killed Willow by ripping out her soul to serve as her familiar, but even she's not sure, and she's a liar anyway]].


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* AncestralWeapon:
** Jaune returns the Sword of Ozma to Ozpin as a gesture of goodwill and recognition of Ozpin's famous ancestor. Of course, Jaune is unaware that Ozpin ''is'' Ozma.
** [[spoiler:In the final battle against Salem, Jaune somehow manages to summon Crocea Mors, the ancestral weapon of the Arc family, despite having never seen or even heard of it]].


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* GatheringSteam: Pyrrha is arguably the strongest entity in the world at the start of any fight... but her power ''builds'' the longer she continues. While her enemies will inevitably weaken, her attacks grow stronger and her healing faster. [[spoiler:During the battle against Salem, this almost lets her stand against Salem's CompleteImmortality, but Salem attacks her psychologically, causing her to lose control of her strength and reset back to square one]].


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* HoistByTheirOwnPetard: [[spoiler:Salem's ultimate downfall hinges on the fact that she named Jaune her heir. It was a relatively minor part of her plan and just a political move, but she ''did'' forge a magical connection between them. He is able to use this connection to rip out her soul and, with the help of his sisters, destroy her]].


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* VictoryByEndurance: Salem is immortal; there is really no situation where she can actually lose, because she can keep going literally forever. [[spoiler:The Claimed make great headway against her in their battle, forcing her to utilize ancient failsafes built into the castle itself, but ultimately their strength begins to flag by sheer exhaustion while she remains as fresh as ever. They only manage to win because Jaune exploits their connection to rip out her soul and immortality]].


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* YourSoulIsMine: [[spoiler:Rare heroic example. Jaune uses his connection to Salem as her heir to rip out her soul and immortality. As her original body crumbled to dust, she attacked him from the inside ([[GrandTheftMe possibly trying to steal his body for her own]]), but Jaune, with the help of his sisters, is able to stand strong and destroy her]].

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