History FanFic / TwilightThenTwilightNowUniverse

Also known as 'The Firehooves Cycle', is an expanded universe of Tornado Firehooves's fanfictions of ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic''. It is a melded universe in which the [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyAndFriends G1 My Little Pony]] is a [[BadFuture Bad Future]] of FIM, an inversion of a FandomSpecificPlot for FIM. The first story in this universe is ''Twilight Then, Twilight Now'', where two Twilights in two different timelines are experiencing events that shake Equestria/Ponyland's history.

* [[{{ApocalypseHow/Class0}} Apocalypse How: Class 0]]: The two year long Grogar Wars caused a large scale destruction of all of Equestria and plunged all of Ponyland's technologies and society centuries back.

** In ''The Magnificent Six'', Cadence did a [[HeroicSacrifice Heroic Sacrifice]] to destroy the animated Alicorn Amulet like what Celestia and Luna did before her and because of it the Princess Ponies confiscated the Elements of Harmony from the six fillies, but she also ensured that Ponyland will get the heroines it needed.

* BrokenPedestal: Celestia's [[HeroicSacrifice Heroic Sacrifice]] to destroy [[GodOfEvil Discord]] have made the majority of ponies to lose a lot of faith in Alicorns due to realising that they can die like any mortal pony and are not really [[PhysicalGod Godesses]].
** Also, the Snowponies (who are descendants to the Crystal Ponies) lost a lot of faith and are hostile towards Cadence, whom they believe had abandoned them at their greatest time of need during the destruction of the Crystal Empire.

* ShroudedInMyth: Most ''[[MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic FiM]]'' events have been turned into myths, such as [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS3E13MagicalMysteryCure Twilight Sparkle's ascention into an alicorn]].

** Sun Shimmer, the assistant teacher from Mustangia, in ''Moondancer's Misguided Mission''.
*** [[spoiler: Although, it is revealed that her mother Sunset Shimmer made her into one by being a bigger [[AlphaBitch Alpha Bitch]] than Sun is]].

* BadFuture: The post-Equestria era to those few individuals who have survived from the Equestria era.
** The Mane Six of the era are quite offended by this attitude, however. [[spoiler: They take particular objection to Applejack's attempt to SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong, angrily declaring that, even if they're not as perfect as Equestria, they still have the right to exist instead of being replaced by a continuation of the Golden Age.]]

-->'''Draggle and Reeka''': Reallykus... Badus...
-->'''Surprise''': Shockus!

* DealWithTheDevil: In ''Moondancer's Misguided Mission'', Sun Shimmer admitted in making a pact with the Windigoes to help her freeze Dream Valley while giving them unlimited source of hatred in there. [[spoiler: It backfired on her after Moondancer and her friends defeated her and freed whole of Dream Valley from the Windigoes' icy grip]].
** In ''Harmony Dies'' in ''My Little Short Stories'' have the queen of Dream Valley at the time, Sky Skimmer, decide to take the offer from [[spoiler: Tirek]] that she will destroy [[spoiler: the Tree of Harmony]] to weaken Equestria so he will invade it while leaving Dream Valley alone, as long as they stay neutral during his invasion.

* DespairEventHorizon: Happens to everypony when a lifebonded mate dies.
** Implied to be one of the reasons for Cadence's odd behaviours after Lavan's destruction of the old Crystal Empire and Shining Armour's death during the Grogar Wars.

* EndOfAnAge: Seems like this is the Mother Trope of the mentioned fics due to the fall of Equestria and the death of Celestia and Luna marked the end of Equestria and the start of TheDarkTimes to the ponies.
** ''Harmony Dies'' had started the end of all things that made Equestria, [[spoiler: by the slaughtering of the Tree of Harmony]].
** DawnOfAnEra: ''The Magnificent Six'' is basically this. With Cadence appointing new heroines for Ponyland, she ensured that TheDarkTimes in Ponyland will end.

* EtTuBrute: In the chapter ''Downfall part 2'' in ''My Little Short Stories'', this is what Spitfire and Soarin' felt like when [[spoiler: Lightning Dust]] led her squad of Dream Valley's Lightning Bolts to sabotage the Wonderbolts as part of Dream Valley's plans to worsen international views towards Equestria. The Wonderbolts were never the same afterwards.
** [[spoiler: When Chocolate sold Applejack to the Jewel Wizard during the start of the Grogar Wars.]]

** Also in ''The Royal Respite'' the residents of Coltonville are very cold towards Equestria for having unicorns and pegasi living there, whom they view them as oppressors to earth ponies.
*** They also see Celestia and Luna as tyrannical.

* GoodIsNotNice: Our Dream Valley heroes protect their herd and ponykind from evil, but the ponies after Equestria's fall have shunned actual friendship and forgiveness as something only the weak or sitting ducks use.
** In ''The chronicles of the Horsemaster'', Bz'ekre (the Horsemaster) placed the windigoes at the three pony tribes to wipe them out after becoming very angry at their fighting and lack of harmony.

* [[IdenticalGrandson Identical Granddaughters]]: Played with in ''The Magnificent Six''. The main characters, Twilight Shine, Firefly, Posey, Surprise and Glory are Twilight Sparkle's, Rainbow Dash's, Fluttershy's, Pinkie Pie's and Rarity's descendants, respectively, and they look like their ancestors so much that Cadence usually expects them to be like their heroic ancestors. [[spoiler: Applejack seems to be this as well, at the start, but is actually the exact same pony as we know in ''FIM'']]. However, though they may look like their ancestors, they are very much different in terms of personality -- Posey, for example, is terrified of animals and only wants to be involved with plants.

* {{Jerkass}}: [[SouthernBelle Truly]], full stop.

* {{Precursors}}: The Penna are this to this world. They were very technologically and magically advanced for their time and could also magically create magical living beings. Their fall came when they created the draconequi and it [[GoneHorriblyWrong backfired on them]] [[TurnedAgainstTheirMasters with the draconequi turning against the Penna]]. The Penna-Draconequus war destroyed the Penna civilisation which left the ponies to rise in their place.

* TheFundamentalist: The Rainbow Monks.
** Let us just say that Tornado is a devout Zorypontist and looked at Alicornists with scorn.

* TheSociopath: Surprise is hinted to be one.
** ''All'' of ponykind's enemies (Tirek, Grogar, Hydia, etc...) possess absolutely no empathy. And they're not only like this to ponies, either.
* TheTheocracy: [[http://www.fimfiction.net/blog/154127/historical-execeprts-the-princess-theodoria-decrees This excerpt]] shows you how life was in the Ponyland Confederacy under Princess [[MeaningfulName Theodora's]] rule. It wasn't a good one for Alicornists to be sure.
* TooDumbToLive: The two witches Draggle and Reeka in ''The Magnificent Six'' are REALLY stupid! Their plans to sabotage Cadence's plans to create new bearers for the Elements of Harmony usually backfire on them.
** Most fillies in ''Ponyville Generations: Spike's Story'' are this due to having generations in exposure with the enchantment put in all of Ponyville that makes visitors enter a dream-like fantasy, lowering the locals' intelligence and maturity. There are some exceptions though, such as Kimono and (G3) Cheerilee.

* VillainHasAPoint: [[spoiler: Both sides of the matter when Applejack makes her attempt to SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong, regardless of which side you take in the matter and thusly who you see as the villain.]]
** [[spoiler: If you take the viewpoint that the New 6 are the heroes, it's still hard to deny that Applejack has a ''point'' that the present era is a BadFuture, what with the unequal gender rights, lack of tolerance, religious strife and other aspects that make it a full-on CrapsackWorld, compared to the mildly CrapsaccharineWorld that was the Golden Era.]]
** [[spoiler: On the other hand, even if you see Applejack as the hero -- or at least a justified WellIntentionedExtremist -- it's hard to claim that the New 6 are really in the wrong when they point out that they have a right to exist too, even if they're not as perfect as their ancestors were.]]
* VitriolicBestBuds: North Star and Firefly in ''Family Relics'', unlike their ancestors.

** Fort Rainbow Dash is AncientRome and AncientGreece.

** In ''Twilight Then, Twilight Now'', Tambelon is lost to Grogar and his Troggle army and the Mane Six's coltfriends disappeared with it, but they have delayed an all out war to several centuries and in the present Ponyland, Tirek is [[KilledOffForReal Killed Off For Real]] and the war is won to the ponies.

* DemonicPossession: Sombra, Luna and Midnight had this happen to them, mostly due to the [[ArtifactOfDoom Flashstone]] corrupting them enough to be open to [[spoiler: [[BiggerBad the Tirac]] (who is the ponies' equivalent to {{Satan}}) to possess]], turning them to King Sombra, Nightmare Moon and Tirek.

[[http://www.fimfiction.net/story/2893/twilight-then-twilight-now Twilight Then, Twilight Now]]

[[http://www.fimfiction.net/story/19662/equestria-exiles-dawn-of-dream-valley Equestria Exiles: Dawn of Dream Valley]]

[[http://www.fimfiction.net/story/2898/midnight-hooves-in-ponyville Midnight in Ponyville]]

[[http://www.fimfiction.net/story/3752/a-selfmade-pony A Self-Made Pony]]

[[http://www.fimfiction.net/story/28965/a-royal-respite A Royal Respite]]

[[http://www.fimfiction.net/story/11620/ponyville-generations-spikes-story Ponyville Generations: Spike's Story]]

[[http://www.fimfiction.net/story/3158/the-equestria-dialouges Equestria Dialogues]]

[[http://www.fimfiction.net/story/6067/classroom-of-the-future Classroom of the Future]]

[[http://www.fimfiction.net/story/41522/a-seaponys-heartstrings A Seapony's Heartstrings]]

[[http://www.fimfiction.net/story/36440/the-magnificent-six The Magnificent Six]]

[[http://www.fimfiction.net/story/113289/moondancers-misguided-mission Moondancer's Misguided Mission]]

[[http://www.fimfiction.net/story/145179/every-pony-knows-your-name-tales-from-the-satin-slipper Every Pony knows your name: Tales from the Satin Slipper]]

[[http://www.fimfiction.net/story/157500/family-relics-adventures-of-the-past-and-present Family Relics: Adventures of the Past and Present]]

[[http://www.fimfiction.net/story/158327/memiors-of-a-mane-stylist-the-ponyville-diaries Memiors of a Mane Stylist: The Ponyville diaries]]

[[http://www.fimfiction.net/story/50838/my-little-short-stories My Little Short Stories]]

[[http://www.fimfiction.net/story/162354/the-chronicles-of-the-horsemaster The chronicles of the Horsemaster]]

[[http://www.fimfiction.net/story/167261/applejack-through-the-ages Applejack Through the Ages]]

[[http://www.fimfiction.net/story/168672/perchance-to-dream Perchance to Dream]]

[[http://www.fimfiction.net/story/183080/my-little-short-stories-2-paradise-edition My Little Short Stories 2 - Paradise Edition]]

[[http://www.fimfiction.net/story/254551/my-little-short-stories-tales-of-dream-castle My little short stories - Tales of Dream Castle]]

[[http://www.fimfiction.net/story/265673/the-sands-of-saddle-arabia The Sands of Saddle Arabia]]

[[http://www.fimfiction.net/story/298009/tales-of-another-ponyville Tales of Another Ponyville]]

* RedHerring: At some point, some readers thought that Sun Shimmer in ''Moondancer's Misguided Mission'' is actually Sunset Shimmer, from ''Film/EquestriaGirls''. [[http://www.fimfiction.net/blog/183136/regarding-sunset-shimmer Turned out it wasn't her]].

* {{Qurac}}: Saddle Arabia. Think of every cartoonish Middle Eastern, North African and other Islamic world stereotypes, this kingdom most probably has them.

* {{Qurac}}: Saddle Arabia. Think of every Middle Eastern, North African and Indian stereotypes, this kingdom most probably has them.

* EndOfAnAge: Seems like this is the Mother Trope of the mentioned fics due to the fall of Equestria and the death of Celestia and Luna marked the end of Equestria and the start of the Dark Times to the ponies.

** DawnOfAnEra: ''The Magnificent Six'' is basically this. With Cadence appointing new heroines for Ponyland, she ensured that the Dark Times in Ponyland will end.

* EndOfAnAge: Seems like this is the Mother Trope of the mentioned fics due to the fall of Equestria and the death of Celestia and Luna marked the end of Equestria and the start of the [[DarkTimes Dark Times]] to the ponies.

** DawnOfAnEra: ''The Magnificent Six'' is basically this. With Cadence appointing new heroines for Ponyland, she ensured that the [[DarkTimes Dark Times]] in Ponyland will end.

* DarkTimes: Equestria after the death of most Harmony Bearers did decay a little for centuries, but the worst times for ponykind were after Celestia's HeroicSacrifice, the Grogar Wars and the aftermath of Equestria's demise.

* ApocalypseHow/Class0: The two year long Grogar Wars caused a large scale destruction of all of Equestria and plunged all of Ponyland's technologies and society centuries back.

* Class0/ApocalypseHow: The two year long Grogar Wars caused a large scale destruction of all of Equestria and plunged all of Ponyland's technologies and society centuries back.

[[http://www.fimfiction.net/story/241755/the-past-is-always-greener-on-the-other-side The past is always greener on the other side]]

** In the chapter 'Confrontation' of ''Applejack through the Ages'', Luna's depression-induced hostile behaviour when Applejack and Kimono told her off for mismanagement of the kingdom had cost her all of their faith for Luna. This also made Applejack renounce her loyalty to her. Though, the next chapter clarifies that Luna snapped out of it and tried to be a better ruler. See RepairedPedestal below.

** In the chapter 'Confrontation' of ''Applejack through the Ages'', Luna's depression-induced hostile behaviour when Applejack and Kimono told her off for mismanagement of the kingdom had cost her all of their faith for Luna. This also made Applejack renounce her loyalty to her.

** In the chapter 'Confrontation' of ''Applejack through the Ages'', Luna's hostile behaviour when Applejack and Kimono told her off for mismanagement of the kingdom had cost her all of their faith for Luna. This also made Applejack renounce her loyalty to her.

** In the chapter 'Confrontation' of ''Applejack through the Ages'', Luna's less than friendly behaviour when Applejack and Kimono told her off for mismanagement of the kingdom had cost her all of their faith for Luna. This also made Applejack renounce her loyalty to her.