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* ''Webcomic/TheLittleTrashmaid'': The comics up to "Mighty Twine" uploaded to Website/DeviantArt as well as the animated teaser avert the BlandNameProduct trope seen in later comics, so Tidy's main top is clearly a 7-Eleven bag, and her father is wearing a Burger King crown.
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* ''Webcomic/AkumasComics'': The early comic had a number of stereotypes with sprite comics; an AuthorGuestSpot, BreakingTheFourthWall, Sonic being considered stupid and [[PaletteSwap Pallette Swaps]]. Over time it became more story and character-focused.
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* Despite ''Webcomic/BecauseImDepressed'' overall being pretty grounded in reality and having a strong continuity, a couple of early strips feature Diego successfully killing himself and Eve apparently [[ItMakesSenseInContext murdering someone so she could sell his blood.]]
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* ''Webcomic/ThePetriDish'' started out pretty much the same as it is now, only the art style was much sketchier.
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** Quite a few characters ended up being subjected to [[CharacterizationMarchesOn Characterization Marching On]] compared to their previous personalities. Elliot was just as much of a pervert as Tedd (he's now incapable of even thinking dirty thoughts while ''trying'' to), Tedd was more a straight pervert instead of a ChivalrousPervert, and Sarah was much more of a feminist (before the feminist part was shifted over to her friend Susan). The early portrayals are rarely referenced afterwards, but have been explained on rare occasions; one such example is Grace, who was aware of the sexual implications of wearing nothing but a trench coat in her debut, but afterwards became the InnocentFanserviceGirl without a nudity taboo - this was eventually questioned in-universe, and Grace promptly explained that she had been specifically told by one of her brothers that people who wear trenchcoats and nothing else are perverts, with no context and little elaboration.

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** Quite a few characters ended up being subjected to [[CharacterizationMarchesOn Characterization Marching On]] compared to their previous personalities. Elliot was just as much of a pervert as Tedd (he's now incapable of even thinking dirty thoughts while ''trying'' to), Tedd was more a straight pervert instead of a ChivalrousPervert, and Sarah was much more of a feminist (before the feminist part was shifted over to her friend Susan). The early portrayals are rarely referenced afterwards, usually go completely unmentioned later on, but have been explained on rare occasions; one such example is Grace, who was aware of the sexual implications of wearing nothing but a trench coat in her debut, but afterwards became the InnocentFanserviceGirl without a nudity taboo - this was eventually questioned in-universe, and Grace promptly explained that she had been specifically told by one of her brothers that people who wear trenchcoats and nothing else are perverts, with no context and little elaboration.
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** Quite a few characters ended up being subjected to [[CharacterizationMarchesOn Characterization Marching On]] compared to their previous personalities. Elliot was just as much of a pervert as Tedd (he's now incapable of even thinking dirty thoughts while ''trying'' to), Tedd was more a straight pervert instead of a ChivalrousPervert, Grace was aware of the sexual implications of wearing nothing but a trench coat (where afterwards she suddenly became the InnocentFanserviceGirl without a nudity taboo) and Sarah was much more of a feminist (before the feminist part was shifted over to her friend Susan).

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** Quite a few characters ended up being subjected to [[CharacterizationMarchesOn Characterization Marching On]] compared to their previous personalities. Elliot was just as much of a pervert as Tedd (he's now incapable of even thinking dirty thoughts while ''trying'' to), Tedd was more a straight pervert instead of a ChivalrousPervert, Grace was aware of the sexual implications of wearing nothing but a trench coat (where afterwards she suddenly became the InnocentFanserviceGirl without a nudity taboo) and Sarah was much more of a feminist (before the feminist part was shifted over to her friend Susan).Susan). The early portrayals are rarely referenced afterwards, but have been explained on rare occasions; one such example is Grace, who was aware of the sexual implications of wearing nothing but a trench coat in her debut, but afterwards became the InnocentFanserviceGirl without a nudity taboo - this was eventually questioned in-universe, and Grace promptly explained that she had been specifically told by one of her brothers that people who wear trenchcoats and nothing else are perverts, with no context and little elaboration.


* ''WebComic/TwoKinds'' used to have a SuperMode for keidrans, where they switched from PettingZooPeople to outright [[BeastMan Beast-men]]. It hasn't shown up in years. It also used to have devices called "towers", which looked like high-tech knockoffs of Barad-Ur, until they showed up in the Basitin Isles arc, where they look like ordinary wall turrets.

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* ''WebComic/TwoKinds'' used to have a SuperMode for keidrans, where they switched from PettingZooPeople to outright [[BeastMan Beast-men]].have a more animalistic appearance. It hasn't shown up in years. It also used to have devices called "towers", which looked like high-tech knockoffs of Barad-Ur, until they showed up in the Basitin Isles arc, where they look like ordinary wall turrets.



* At the start of ''Webcomic/TheWhiteboard'', the PettingZooPeople main cast was treated as something unusual in a human world. The author soon dropped the "something unusual" angle as not really being where he wanted to take the webcomic, and since then has gravitated over time towards making more of the characters anthropomorphic animals.

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* At the start of ''Webcomic/TheWhiteboard'', the PettingZooPeople main cast was treated as something unusual in a human world. The author soon dropped the "something unusual" angle as not really being where he wanted to take the webcomic, and since then has gravitated over time towards making more of the characters anthropomorphic animals.

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* ''Webcomic/{{Erfworld}}'' is pretty good at keeping up with its own continuity, and holds well together if read from the beginning. However, the [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/erfcast.html original cast page]] at giantitp.com, before it moved to its own website, was posted before the first page of the actual comic, and there are some minor deviations from later continuity. In particular, "Dirtamancer" is spelled "Dirtomancer", and the cast page refers to the Plaid and Croatan "tribes", not mentioned in the comic itself, instead of aligning the characters with "sides", which are typically named after their capital cities. (In fact, the prequel book reveals that Wanda was popped in the Goodminton side, making no mention of the Croatan tribe.

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is pretty good at keeping up with its own continuity, and holds well together if read from the beginning. However, the [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/erfcast.html original cast page]] at giantitp.com, before it moved to its own website, was posted before the first page of the actual comic, and there are some minor deviations from later continuity. In particular, "Dirtamancer" is spelled "Dirtomancer", and the cast page refers to the Plaid and Croatan "tribes", not mentioned in the comic itself, instead of aligning the characters with "sides", which are typically named after their capital cities. (In fact, the prequel book reveals that Wanda was popped in the Goodminton side, making no mention of the Croatan tribe.tribe.
** And in the actual comic, the first uncroaked units to appear are three skeletons. After that, all uncroaked units are portrayed as decaying zombies.



** And in the actual comic, the first uncroaked units to appear are three skeletons. After that, all uncroaked units are portrayed as decaying zombies.
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* ''Webcomic/TerrorIsland'': In the first strip, Sid imagines people from five years ago speaking in YeOldeButcheredeEnglishe. This is portrayed as a sign of his [[CloudCuckooLander bizarre thought process]], and Stephen is clearly confused by it. Later strips would establish that this is the normal way to think about any past events in-universe, to the point that thinking any other way would be considered a sign of demonic intervention.
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** Quite a few characters ended up being subjected to [[CharacterizationMarchesOn Characterization Marching On]] compared to their previous personalities. Elliot was just as much of a pervert as Tedd (he's now incapable of even thinking dirty thoughts while ''trying'' to), Tedd was more a straight pervert instead of a ChivalrousPervert, Grace was aware of the sexual implications of wearing nothing but a trench coat (where afterwards she suddenly became the InnocentFanserviceGirl with NoNudityTaboo) and Sarah was much more of a feminist (before the feminist part was shifted over to her friend Susan).

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** Quite a few characters ended up being subjected to [[CharacterizationMarchesOn Characterization Marching On]] compared to their previous personalities. Elliot was just as much of a pervert as Tedd (he's now incapable of even thinking dirty thoughts while ''trying'' to), Tedd was more a straight pervert instead of a ChivalrousPervert, Grace was aware of the sexual implications of wearing nothing but a trench coat (where afterwards she suddenly became the InnocentFanserviceGirl with NoNudityTaboo) without a nudity taboo) and Sarah was much more of a feminist (before the feminist part was shifted over to her friend Susan).
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** Lord English's name was not [[PaintingTheMedium written]] with a small [=.GIF=] of a cycling billiard ball replacing the "o" until Act 5. In the Intermission prior (which was between Acts 3 and 4), it was "just" written in all-green, like the rest of the Felt.
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* ''Webcomic/DarthsAndDroids'' starts out much like ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'' by mocking roleplaying conventions and bad dungeon-mastery. The first campaign revolves mostly around Jim and Ben's increasingly bizarre antics as Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan. This is mostly due to the comic's roots in ''Webcomic/TheDMOfTheRings''. Almost as soon as the first campaign ends however, everything starts slowly shifting into a more mature exploration of the emerging storylines, along with a constantly-increasing emphasis on the lives of the players themselves and their relationships with one another.

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* ''Webcomic/DarthsAndDroids'' starts out much like ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'' by mocking roleplaying conventions and bad dungeon-mastery. The first campaign revolves mostly around Jim and Ben's increasingly bizarre antics as Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan. This is mostly due to the comic's roots in ''Webcomic/TheDMOfTheRings''.''Webcomic/DMOfTheRings''. Almost as soon as the first campaign ends however, everything starts slowly shifting into a more mature exploration of the emerging storylines, along with a constantly-increasing emphasis on the lives of the players themselves and their relationships with one another.
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* ''Webcomic/DarthsAndDroids'' starts out much like ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'' by mocking roleplaying conventions and bad dungeon-mastery. The first campaign revolves mostly around Jim and Ben's increasingly bizarre antics as Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan. This is mostly due to the comic's roots in ''Webcomic/TheDMOfTheRings''. Almost as soon as the first campaign ends however, everything starts slowly shifting into a more mature exploration of the emerging storylines, along with a constantly-increasing emphasis on the lives of the players themselves and their relationships with one another.
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** On a related note, the way the early comics dealt with the frequent GenderBender aspects was significantly different and less informed from how it eventually came to deal with {{Transgender}} themes.
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* ''WebComic/TwoKinds'' used to have a SuperMode for keidrans, where they switched from PettingZooPeople to outright [[BeastMan Beast-men]]. It hasn't shown up in years. It also used to have devices called "towers", which looked like high-tech knockoffs of Barad-Ur, until they showed up in the Bastin Isles arc, where they look like ordinary wall turrets.

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* ''WebComic/TwoKinds'' used to have a SuperMode for keidrans, where they switched from PettingZooPeople to outright [[BeastMan Beast-men]]. It hasn't shown up in years. It also used to have devices called "towers", which looked like high-tech knockoffs of Barad-Ur, until they showed up in the Bastin Basitin Isles arc, where they look like ordinary wall turrets.

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* An early Webcomic/OzyAndMillie strip had Millie trying to petition her parents. Not too long later she had a single mother.

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* An early Webcomic/OzyAndMillie ''Webcomic/OzyAndMillie'' strip had Millie trying to petition her parents. Not too long later she had a single mother.mother.
** Also, Millie once asked Ozy to holler if anyone came to the girls' restroom while she was doffing her overalls (to dry them with the hand dryer). For most of the comic's run thereafter -- perhaps due to her {{Flanderization}} into more of a CloudCuckoolander -- she [[NakedPeopleAreFunny didn't need much of a reason to get naked in public]].
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* ''Webcomic/ThinkBeforeYouThink'' is about Brian, a nice guy who's a powerful telepath but tries to keep his powers secret. In the first few comics, however, he shows off his powers blatantly and acts like kind of a jerk.
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* ''Webcomic/{{Drowtales}}'' was originally set in the ForgottenRealms setting, and was a lot more explicit about sexuality, deliberately introducing [[{{Squick}} Squicky]] details about the drow sex lives to [[DeliberateValuesDissonance intentionally weird out the readers]] and showing Ariel as a more outright VillainProtagonist. Later on the first several chapters were redone to make the tone and setting more internally consistent with later story arcs.

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* ''Webcomic/{{Drowtales}}'' was originally set in the ForgottenRealms TabletopGame/ForgottenRealms setting, and was a lot more explicit about sexuality, deliberately introducing [[{{Squick}} Squicky]] details about the drow sex lives to [[DeliberateValuesDissonance intentionally weird out the readers]] and showing Ariel as a more outright VillainProtagonist. Later on the first several chapters were redone to make the tone and setting more internally consistent with later story arcs.
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* ''Webcomic/LookingForGroup'' got its start as a straight-up ''WorldOfWarcraft'' parody. It was much more cartoonish in both drawing style and narrative, with Richard burning Kale to ash in his first appearance, then having a conversation with him as a pile of ashes in a pouch while seeking out the priestess Ben'Joon ("Benny") to resurrect him. In the years that followed, the comic has developed its own unique world. It remains comedic but has lost its more cartoonish elements.

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* ''Webcomic/LookingForGroup'' got its start as a straight-up ''WorldOfWarcraft'' ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'' parody. It was much more cartoonish in both drawing style and narrative, with Richard burning Kale to ash in his first appearance, then having a conversation with him as a pile of ashes in a pouch while seeking out the priestess Ben'Joon ("Benny") to resurrect him. In the years that followed, the comic has developed its own unique world. It remains comedic but has lost its more cartoonish elements.
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* ''Webcomic/DanAndMabsFurryAdventures'' initially opened with it being quite clear that the characters were derived from the early MMO {{Furcadia}}, but then moved to being a more fleshed out world of its own, even if still retaining some of its old "MMO made real" elements – Alexis' Banhammer became a magical greathammer, the Twinks become a "normal" organized crime gang, etc. And there are also other elements that linger a while before being more or less phased out – for example, [[BewareTheNiceOnes Lorenda]] was introduced having saved Jyrras from muggers by eating them, got evicted because she'd ''eaten'' her neighbors and then proceeds to eat several door-to-door salesmen. While she was admittedly self-proclaimed as preferring not to eat people, and this was a common source of friction with her mother, it hasn't been mentioned for hundreds of comics. In fact, neither has her much more predatory mother's tendency to eat people.

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* ''Webcomic/DanAndMabsFurryAdventures'' initially opened with it being quite clear that the characters were derived from the early MMO {{Furcadia}}, ''VideoGame/{{Furcadia}}'', but then moved to being a more fleshed out world of its own, even if still retaining some of its old "MMO made real" elements – Alexis' Banhammer became a magical greathammer, the Twinks become a "normal" organized crime gang, etc. And there are also other elements that linger a while before being more or less phased out – for example, [[BewareTheNiceOnes Lorenda]] was introduced having saved Jyrras from muggers by eating them, got evicted because she'd ''eaten'' her neighbors and then proceeds to eat several door-to-door salesmen. While she was admittedly self-proclaimed as preferring not to eat people, and this was a common source of friction with her mother, it hasn't been mentioned for hundreds of comics. In fact, neither has her much more predatory mother's tendency to eat people.
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* In the few years of ''Webcomic/KevinAndKell'', it occasionally indicated the existence of fantasy creatures, including gnomes, the Tooth Fairy, and literal trolls. Since they did not appear (completely) onscreen, we could not tell whether they were as humanoid as conventionally depicted. The author later decided that his FurryComic was weird enough without them.
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* ''Webcomic/GuildedAge'': Early chapters had the characters engaging in a load of pop-culture references as casual dialog, Frigg more so than anyone else, when they weren't all living in a WorldOfSnark. This faded over time as the setting developed into its current and somewhat more serious state.
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* An early Webcomic/OzyAndMillie strip had Millie trying to petition her parents. Not too long later she had a single mother.
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** The first time a troll (namely Karkat) is [[TheReveal shown onscreen,]] he is standing in [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=003255 a room with light gray walls, with a twelve-paned window in an octagonal frame]]. When they get their proper introduction, Karkat's house (and troll houses/hives in general) take on their better-known appearance, [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=003894 with frameless windows and dark gray walls.]]
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* One of the first strips in ''Webcomic/{{Misfile}}'' has Emily flipping the bird. Later strips show that she is not the sort of person to do that. Though it's been mentioned several times that prior to the titular misfile she [[CharacterDevelopment used to to have a mean streak]]. Plus she was in a pretty crappy mood at the time too; it was the day she woke up and found that two years of her life-including her admission to Harvard-had just been erased.

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* One of the first strips in ''Webcomic/{{Misfile}}'' has Emily flipping the bird. Later strips show that she is not the sort of person to do that. Though it's been mentioned several times that prior to the titular misfile she [[CharacterDevelopment used to to have a mean streak]]. Plus Also, she was in a pretty crappy mood at the time too; time; it was the day she woke up and found that the two years of her life-including her admission she'd spent working to Harvard-had get into Harvard had just been erased.
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* One of the first strips in ''Webcomic/{{Misfile}}'' has Emily flipping the bird. Later strips show that she is not the sort of person to do that.

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* One of the first strips in ''Webcomic/{{Misfile}}'' has Emily flipping the bird. Later strips show that she is not the sort of person to do that. Though it's been mentioned several times that prior to the titular misfile she [[CharacterDevelopment used to to have a mean streak]]. Plus she was in a pretty crappy mood at the time too; it was the day she woke up and found that two years of her life-including her admission to Harvard-had just been erased.
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* Early in ''Webcomic/EightBitTheater'', awareness of stats and its RPGMechanicsVerse traits was a lot more widespread than in later stages. While it still roughly retained the ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'' elements in later stages, such as the passage of time being [[RuleOfFunny intermittently]] tied to inn visits, as time went on only Red Mage really focused on stats and skill points, and the rest of the cast tended to treat him like a [[{{Cloudcuckoolander}} crazy person]] when he talked about them.

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** The first month consisted of [[KidHero John]] hanging around in his room and house and getting nothing done, and that was followed by a few months of mucking around with [[TheGamePlaysYou Sburb]]'s ability to let them them to build and manipulate objects in each other's houses. ''Then'' things get more intense, [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt to say the least]]. This can be [[JustifiedTrope chalked up to the fact that]] at that point, ''Homestuck'' was still driven by [[InteractiveComic reader commands]] and they'd just come off the tail of the incredibly silly ''Webcomic/ProblemSleuth'', so this is what people knew to do; the suggestion boxes were closed partway through and that's when the series is generally considered to have [[GrowingTheBeard grown its very strange beard]]. A common symptom of this is people [[ItGetsBetter finding it difficult to get into]] ''Homestuck'' because of how long the first few months of hanging around is (though said first few months includes ''loads'' of {{Foreshadowing}}, [[ChekhovsGun Chekhovs Guns]], and subtle set-ups if you know where to look).

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** The first month consisted of [[KidHero John]] hanging around in his room and house and getting nothing done, and that was followed by a few months of mucking around with [[TheGamePlaysYou Sburb]]'s ability to let them them to build and manipulate objects in each other's houses. ''Then'' things get more intense, [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt to say the least]]. This can be [[JustifiedTrope chalked up to the fact that]] at that point, ''Homestuck'' was still driven by [[InteractiveComic reader commands]] and they'd just come off the tail of the incredibly silly ''Webcomic/ProblemSleuth'', so this is what people knew to do; the suggestion boxes were closed partway through and that's when the series is generally considered to have [[GrowingTheBeard grown its very strange beard]]. A common symptom of this is people [[ItGetsBetter [[SlowPacedBeginning finding it difficult to get into]] ''Homestuck'' because of how long the first few months of hanging around is (though said first few months includes ''loads'' of {{Foreshadowing}}, [[ChekhovsGun Chekhovs Guns]], {{Chekhovs Gun}}s, and subtle set-ups if you know where to look).



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** The first month consisted of [[KidHero John]] hanging around in his room and house and getting nothing done, and that was followed by a few months of mucking around with [[TheGamePlaysYou Sburb]]'s ability to let them them to build and manipulate objects in each other's houses. ''Then'' things get more intense, [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt to say the least]]. This can be [[JustifiedTrope chalked up to the fact that]] at that point, ''Homestuck'' was still driven by [[InteractiveComic reader commands]] and they'd just come off the tail of the incredibly silly ''Webcomic/ProblemSleuth'', so this is what people knew to do; the suggestion boxes were closed partway through and that's when the series is generally considered to have [[GrowingTheBeard grown its very strange beard]]. A common symptom of this is people finding it difficult to get into ''Homestuck'' because of how long the first few months of hanging around is (though said first few months includes ''loads'' of {{Foreshadowing}}, [[ChekhovsGun Chekhovs Guns]], and subtle set-ups if you know where to look).
** The beginning of the first Act has [[http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=001906 a moment]] where [[AudienceSurrogate the player]] directly interacts with the game world and moves an object on John's behalf. This never happens again in the comic and for the most part if a character wants to do something they just do it themselves.

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** The first month consisted of [[KidHero John]] hanging around in his room and house and getting nothing done, and that was followed by a few months of mucking around with [[TheGamePlaysYou Sburb]]'s ability to let them them to build and manipulate objects in each other's houses. ''Then'' things get more intense, [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt to say the least]]. This can be [[JustifiedTrope chalked up to the fact that]] at that point, ''Homestuck'' was still driven by [[InteractiveComic reader commands]] and they'd just come off the tail of the incredibly silly ''Webcomic/ProblemSleuth'', so this is what people knew to do; the suggestion boxes were closed partway through and that's when the series is generally considered to have [[GrowingTheBeard grown its very strange beard]]. A common symptom of this is people [[ItGetsBetter finding it difficult to get into into]] ''Homestuck'' because of how long the first few months of hanging around is (though said first few months includes ''loads'' of {{Foreshadowing}}, [[ChekhovsGun Chekhovs Guns]], and subtle set-ups if you know where to look).
** The beginning of the first Act has [[http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=001906 a moment]] where [[AudienceSurrogate the player]] directly interacts with the game world and moves an object on John's behalf. This never happens again in the comic and for the most part if a character wants to do something they just do it themselves.
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That doesn\'t seem like \"Early Installment Weirdness\" to me. Just a case of characters\' knowledge changing, it doesn\'t mean that the author decided to change it or anything.


** Early in the comic, Dave's bro is refered to by some characetrs as his "older brother", in the same way and context real people would do when talking about him. Later on, everybody calls him Bro consistently, specially after the main characters discover Bro is actuallly his biollogycal father and not his brother.

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