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** [[http://ripvanwinkle.deviantart.com/#/d4evoke A good example is this "Ulquihime" essay.]] According to the "writer", Ulquiorra's feelings for Orihime asre Complete and Absolute ~True Love~ that should never be denied or challenged, but Orihime's feelings for Ichigo are total little girl shit that doesn't matter unless it's to point how immature and horrible she is. [[DoubleStandard No, just no.]]
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** There's an Ichihime fan on {{Youtube}} who wrote a fifteen-minute rant against Ulquihime [[http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1lyDyCD59ks here]] (Part One, even). Not only does she use [[InsaneTrollLogic completely absurd logic]] like saying Ulquiorra said he'd kill Orihime as soon as he got the chance, which he never did, she also said that ''any Ulquihime fan who tried to defend their pairing would have their comment deleted''. Including the reasonable ones. [[SarcasmMode Because apparently if you're not an Ichihime fan and you don't agree with her a hundred percent, your opinion doesn't matter.]].
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Whenever a {{Shonen}} has an EstrogenBrigade amidst their fandom, it's inevitable for a shipping war to ignite ''the mere second'' that a character interacts with another. What makes ''{{Bleach}}'' especially notable, however, is how the ''het fans'' are the ones causing the most amount of FanDumb around these parts.
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Whenever a {{Shonen}} has an EstrogenBrigade amidst their fandom, it's inevitable for a shipping war to ignite ''the mere second'' that a character interacts with another. What makes ''{{Bleach}}'' especially notable, however, is how the ''het fans'' are the ones causing the most amount of FanDumb around these parts.
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* Here comes a weird variant. The Ichi/Ruki shippers used something along the lines of "their meeting was destiny" as their tagline, even claiming that [[TheHero Ichigo]] was [[BigBrotherMentor Kaien]]'s reincarnation. The latter point was proven false ever since [[EldritchAbomination Aaroniero]] revealed that [[AndIMustScream Kaien was trapped inside Aaroniero himself]], after the latter absorbed Metastacia, a Hollow that fused with Kaien. Reactions varied within the fandom, but the shippers were most affected by that revelation; Ichiruki shippers were outraged, while Ichihime shippers saw it as a TakeThat. Since Aaroniero ''actually was killed'' by Rukia shortly after that reveal, the shippers aren't as likely to shout at Aaroniero these days.
** Furthermore, it's been revealed that [[CompleteMonster Aizen]] had [[GambitRoulette manipulated Ichigo's development]], [[ItMakesSenseInContext including the very first meeting between himself and Rukia]]. Naturally, this upset many Ichiruki shippers, who wildly denied such a declaration, but Aizen himself was finished off by Ichigo at the end of the Deicide arc, so they won't disparage him as much either. In both cases, instead of the typical ShipToShipCombat, shippers were just peeved that another character 'disproved' the "certainty" of Ichigo getting together with Rukia.
** Furthermore, it's been revealed that [[CompleteMonster Aizen]] had [[GambitRoulette manipulated Ichigo's development]], [[ItMakesSenseInContext including the very first meeting between himself and Rukia]]. Naturally, this upset many Ichiruki shippers, who wildly denied such a declaration, but Aizen himself was finished off by Ichigo at the end of the Deicide arc, so they won't disparage him as much either. In both cases, instead of the typical ShipToShipCombat, shippers were just peeved that another character 'disproved' the "certainty" of Ichigo getting together with Rukia.
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* Here comes a weird variant. The Ichi/Ruki shippers used something along the lines of "their meeting was destiny" as their tagline, even claiming that [[TheHero Ichigo]] was [[BigBrotherMentor Kaien]]'s Kaien's]] reincarnation. The latter point was proven false ever since [[EldritchAbomination Aaroniero]] revealed that [[AndIMustScream Kaien was trapped inside Aaroniero himself]], after the latter absorbed Metastacia, a Hollow that fused with Kaien. Reactions varied within the fandom, but the shippers were most affected by that revelation; Ichiruki shippers were outraged, while Ichihime shippers saw it as a TakeThat. Since Aaroniero ''actually was killed'' by Rukia shortly after that reveal, the shippers aren't as likely to shout at Aaroniero these days.
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** Furthermore, it's been revealed that [[CompleteMonster Aizen]] had [[GambitRoulette manipulated Ichigo's development]], [[ItMakesSenseInContext including the very first meeting between himself and Rukia]]. Naturally, this upset many Ichiruki shippers, who wildly denied such a declaration, but Aizen himself was finished off by Ichigo at the end of the Deicide arc, so they won't disparage him as much either. In both cases, instead of the typical ShipToShipCombat, shippers were just peeved that another character 'disproved' the "certainty" of Ichigo getting together with Rukia.
** Furthermore, it's been revealed that [[CompleteMonster Aizen]] had [[GambitRoulette manipulated Ichigo's development]], [[ItMakesSenseInContext including the very first meeting between himself and Rukia]]. Naturally, this upset many Ichiruki shippers, who wildly denied such a declaration, but Aizen himself was finished off by Ichigo at the end of the Deicide arc, so they won't disparage him as much either. In both cases, instead of the typical ShipToShipCombat, shippers were just peeved that another character 'disproved' the "certainty" of Ichigo getting together with Rukia.
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** Some fans go as far as to twist the [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming very sweet]] ([[LesYay and femslashy]], for some) scene between them where [[spoiler: Rukia vehemently tells Orihime that [[YouAreNotAlone she's a great person and her friends love her]], that she was not a burden to them and that [[IOweYouMyLife if Orihime hadn't been there, Rukia would have died]], ]], pulling her from the HeroicBSOD state she's been for a while]] into a "CatFight" where Rukia curses and bitches at Orihime for laying her eyes on Ichigo.
** Reaches its worst extreme [[http://www.journalfen.net/community/fandom_wank/1280151.html when rabid IchiRukis make truly mindboggling assumptions]] about Orihime [[spoiler: FightingFromTheInside against Tsukishima's brainwashing]]. Such a fact somehow makes her a "shallow whore" and a "selfish bitch", whose care for Ichigo is "utterly pathetic" and "will never compare to Rukia's Eternal and Mature Love."
** For the ''somewhat'' saner ones, at least, the hate for Orihime in particular is in part due to RealWomenNeverWearDresses, [[DoubleStandard even as BOTH fans and haters alike invoke the latter trope in their support or opposition towards one girl over the other]].
** Reaches its worst extreme [[http://www.journalfen.net/community/fandom_wank/1280151.html when rabid IchiRukis make truly mindboggling assumptions]] about Orihime [[spoiler: FightingFromTheInside against Tsukishima's brainwashing]]. Such a fact somehow makes her a "shallow whore" and a "selfish bitch", whose care for Ichigo is "utterly pathetic" and "will never compare to Rukia's Eternal and Mature Love."
** For the ''somewhat'' saner ones, at least, the hate for Orihime in particular is in part due to RealWomenNeverWearDresses, [[DoubleStandard even as BOTH fans and haters alike invoke the latter trope in their support or opposition towards one girl over the other]].
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** Some fans go as far as to twist the [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming very sweet]] ([[LesYay and femslashy]], for some) scene between them where [[spoiler: Rukia vehemently tells Orihime that [[YouAreNotAlone she's a great person and her friends love her]], that she was not a burden to them and that [[IOweYouMyLife if Orihime hadn't been there, Rukia would have died]], ]], pulling her from the HeroicBSOD state she's been for a while]] into a "CatFight" where Rukia curses and bitches at Orihime for laying her eyes on Ichigo.
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** Reaches its worst extreme [[http://www.journalfen.net/community/fandom_wank/1280151.html when rabid IchiRukis make truly mindboggling assumptions]] about Orihime [[spoiler: FightingFromTheInside against Tsukishima's brainwashing]]. Such a fact somehow makes her a "shallow whore" and a "selfish bitch", whose care for Ichigo is "utterly pathetic" and "will never compare to Rukia's Eternal and Mature Love."
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** For the ''somewhat'' saner ones, at least, the hate for Orihime in particular is in part due to RealWomenNeverWearDresses, [[DoubleStandard even as BOTH fans and haters alike invoke the latter trope in their support or opposition towards one girl over the other]].
** Reaches its worst extreme [[http://www.journalfen.net/community/fandom_wank/1280151.html when rabid IchiRukis make truly mindboggling assumptions]] about Orihime [[spoiler: FightingFromTheInside against Tsukishima's brainwashing]]. Such a fact somehow makes her a "shallow whore" and a "selfish bitch", whose care for Ichigo is "utterly pathetic" and "will never compare to Rukia's Eternal and Mature Love.
** For the ''somewhat'' saner ones, at least, the hate for Orihime in particular is in part due to RealWomenNeverWearDresses, [[DoubleStandard even as BOTH fans and haters alike invoke the latter trope in their support or opposition towards one girl over the other]].
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* Poor Uryuu Ishida gets it from rabid fans from all sides. The Ichigo/Rukia section blames him for failing to seduce Orihime and make her forget about Ichigo (no matter how out of character that would be), and more recently, for assisting her in an endeavour where ''she'' ended up saving Ichigo's life (instead of their PossessionSue version of Rukia) and Ichigo [[spoiler:went berserk to protect her]]. Those in the other camp insist he is a) not good enough for their darling, pure and perfect goddess and/or b) a douchebag that doesn't let Orihime fight for herself, never mind that ''everybody'' (save for Rukia and Chad) wants her to keep out of fights.
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* Poor Uryuu Ishida gets it from rabid fans from all sides. The Ichigo/Rukia section blames him for failing to seduce Orihime and make her forget about Ichigo (no matter how out of character that would be), and more recently, for assisting her in an endeavour where ''she'' ended up saving Ichigo's life (instead of their PossessionSue version of Rukia) and Ichigo [[spoiler:went berserk to protect her]]. Those in the other camp insist he is a) not good enough for their darling, pure and perfect goddess and/or b) a douchebag that doesn't let Orihime fight for herself, never mind that ''everybody'' (save for Rukia and Chad) wants her to keep out of fights.
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* [[BodyguardCrush So]][[BrokenBird if]][[SpellMyNameWithAnS on]] is frequently twisted into a mixture of PsychoLesbian and [[DoesNotLikeMen rabid]] [[StrawFeminist misandrist]] by the most militant [[MadScientist Urahara]]/[[ActionGirl Yoruichi]] shippers. ''Even on this very wiki''. What is especially ironic is that ''[[LovableSexManiac Urahara]]'' himself would likely be ''[[YuriFanboy overjoyed]]'' at the prospect of [[LesYay Sui Feng/Yoruichi.]]
* Some of the most rabid [[TheWoobie Momo Hinamori]] haters are [[WhiteHairedPrettyBoy Hitsugaya]]/[[MsFanservice Matsumoto]] shippers who have somehow convinced themselves that Hitsugaya isn't allowed to [[TenchiSolution care for two girls at the same time]] (even if it's in different ways) and ''must'' choose between his sexy and self-assured lieutenant and [[BreakTheCutie his broken]] [[NotBloodSiblings adoptive sister]] and then run the girl he doesn't pick with his own sword. Or maybe that's because those fans also happen to [[TheScrappy hate Hinamori]], even if she's not paired with Hitsugaya at all. And finally, she's not safe from het-pairing lovers only: Momo is also often bashed for the sake of some yaoi pairs, like Aizen/Gin.
* Some of the most rabid [[TheWoobie Momo Hinamori]] haters are [[WhiteHairedPrettyBoy Hitsugaya]]/[[MsFanservice Matsumoto]] shippers who have somehow convinced themselves that Hitsugaya isn't allowed to [[TenchiSolution care for two girls at the same time]] (even if it's in different ways) and ''must'' choose between his sexy and self-assured lieutenant and [[BreakTheCutie his broken]] [[NotBloodSiblings adoptive sister]] and then run the girl he doesn't pick with his own sword. Or maybe that's because those fans also happen to [[TheScrappy hate Hinamori]], even if she's not paired with Hitsugaya at all. And finally, she's not safe from het-pairing lovers only: Momo is also often bashed for the sake of some yaoi pairs, like Aizen/Gin.
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* [[BodyguardCrush So]][[BrokenBird if]][[SpellMyNameWithAnS on]] is frequently twisted into a mixture of PsychoLesbian and [[DoesNotLikeMen rabid]] [[StrawFeminist misandrist]] by the most militant [[MadScientist Urahara]]/[[ActionGirl Urahara]] / [[ActionGirl Yoruichi]] shippers. ''Even on this very wiki''. What is especially ironic is that ''[[LovableSexManiac Urahara]]'' himself would likely be ''[[YuriFanboy overjoyed]]'' at the prospect of [[LesYay Sui Feng/Yoruichi.]]
* Some of the most rabid [[TheWoobie Momo Hinamori]] haters are [[WhiteHairedPrettyBoyHitsugaya]]/[[MsFanservice Hitsugaya]] / [[MsFanservice Matsumoto]] shippers who have somehow convinced themselves that Hitsugaya isn't allowed to [[TenchiSolution care for two girls at the same time]] (even if it's in different ways) and ''must'' choose between his sexy and self-assured lieutenant and [[BreakTheCutie his broken]] [[NotBloodSiblings adoptive sister]] and then run the girl he doesn't pick with his own sword. Or maybe that's because those fans also happen to [[TheScrappy hate Hinamori]], even if she's not paired with Hitsugaya at all. And finally, she's not safe from het-pairing lovers only: Momo is also often bashed for the sake of some yaoi pairs, like Aizen/Gin.
* Some of the most rabid [[TheWoobie Momo Hinamori]] haters are [[WhiteHairedPrettyBoy
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* A very, ''very'' welcome subversion comes along the lines of Ichigo/Nelliel. Neither the [=IchiHime=] nor the [=IchiRuki=] shippers have ever attacked Nelliel for her affectionate behavior towards Ichigo. In fact, most of them actually ''like'' Nelliel, and a few even have her as a sub-pairing that they enjoy toying with in some fanart or fanfiction. It helps that she's both a GenkiGirl ''and'' an ActionGirl.
* As a warning, don't ''ever'' bring up Senna in a conversation. Despite only appearing in one film, her chemistry with Ichigo provoked a lot of attacks from shippers of ''both'' Ichigo/Rukia and Ichigo/Orihime, but since she's never featured in any other Bleach-related media, outside of the first movie, a video game and a cameo in episode 204, the hate for her (thankfully) isn't as frequent or heated. Then again, one only needs to click on a fanart of the pairing or see the ''Memories of Nobody'' movie on YouTube to find someones' loathing for it and Senna.
* '''Subverted''' with Riruka Dokugamine; ''none'' of the Ichigirl pairings have attacked her for being interested in Ichigo, mainly due to how HilarityEnsues whenever she expresses it around him.
** It also sorta helps that Riruka's {{Tsundere}} traits make an EnsembleDarkhorse in general, ''and'' that she has [[ShipTease some chemistry with]] ''[[LesYay Orihime]]'' as well.
* It doesn't help that the entire ''{{Bleach}}'' series is a) long running, b) Shonen, and c) likes to draw out its action scenes. Oh, and the mangaka likes to keep things intentionally vague about relationships for some reason (even ''{{Naruto}}'' has more relationship development). Hence people with preferred characters start to [[ShippingGoggles pick and choose]] to enhance relationship development.
** [[WordOfGod Word of God]] has said that he feels that the characters have more potential than just falling in love. Then again, this comes from the man that/ also said [[{{Troll}} the more hate Orihime gets, the more screen-time he gives her.]]
* Tatsuki is mercifully spared from this, except by fans who do not have all their marbles. Tatsuki has done nothing to earn the ire of either Ichi/Hime or Ichi/Ruki fans, and it also helps she is considered a secondary character by the fandom at large. Sometimes, however, she's used as the incarnation of this trope: while '''she''' doesn't get directly bashed in fanwork, she's sometimes chosen as [[WriterOnBoard the mouthpiece of choice for IchiHime bashers]], who then make her tell Orihime that she should fall out of love with Ichigo and go for others instead -- basically ''putting their own hate for the pairing in Tatsuki's mouth''.
* As a warning, don't ''ever'' bring up Senna in a conversation. Despite only appearing in one film, her chemistry with Ichigo provoked a lot of attacks from shippers of ''both'' Ichigo/Rukia and Ichigo/Orihime, but since she's never featured in any other Bleach-related media, outside of the first movie, a video game and a cameo in episode 204, the hate for her (thankfully) isn't as frequent or heated. Then again, one only needs to click on a fanart of the pairing or see the ''Memories of Nobody'' movie on YouTube to find someones' loathing for it and Senna.
* '''Subverted''' with Riruka Dokugamine; ''none'' of the Ichigirl pairings have attacked her for being interested in Ichigo, mainly due to how HilarityEnsues whenever she expresses it around him.
** It also sorta helps that Riruka's {{Tsundere}} traits make an EnsembleDarkhorse in general, ''and'' that she has [[ShipTease some chemistry with]] ''[[LesYay Orihime]]'' as well.
* It doesn't help that the entire ''{{Bleach}}'' series is a) long running, b) Shonen, and c) likes to draw out its action scenes. Oh, and the mangaka likes to keep things intentionally vague about relationships for some reason (even ''{{Naruto}}'' has more relationship development). Hence people with preferred characters start to [[ShippingGoggles pick and choose]] to enhance relationship development.
** [[WordOfGod Word of God]] has said that he feels that the characters have more potential than just falling in love. Then again, this comes from the man that/ also said [[{{Troll}} the more hate Orihime gets, the more screen-time he gives her.]]
* Tatsuki is mercifully spared from this, except by fans who do not have all their marbles. Tatsuki has done nothing to earn the ire of either Ichi/Hime or Ichi/Ruki fans, and it also helps she is considered a secondary character by the fandom at large. Sometimes, however, she's used as the incarnation of this trope: while '''she''' doesn't get directly bashed in fanwork, she's sometimes chosen as [[WriterOnBoard the mouthpiece of choice for IchiHime bashers]], who then make her tell Orihime that she should fall out of love with Ichigo and go for others instead -- basically ''putting their own hate for the pairing in Tatsuki's mouth''.
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* A very, ''very'' welcome subversion comes along the lines of Ichigo/Nelliel. Neither the [=IchiHime=] nor the [=IchiRuki=] shippers have ever attacked Nelliel for her affectionate behavior towards Ichigo. In fact, most of them actually ''like'' Nelliel, and a few even have her as a sub-pairing that they enjoy toying with in some fanart or fanfiction. It helps that she's both a GenkiGirl ''and'' an ActionGirl.
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* As a warning, don't ''ever'' bring up Senna in a conversation. Despite only appearing in one film, her chemistry with Ichigo provoked a lot of attacks from shippers of ''both'' Ichigo/Rukia and Ichigo/Orihime, but since she's never featured in any other Bleach-related media, outside of the first movie, a video game and a cameo in episode 204, the hate for her (thankfully) isn't as frequent or heated. Then again, one only needs to click on a fanart of the pairing or see the ''Memories of Nobody'' movie onYouTube Website/{{Youtube}} to find someones' loathing for it and Senna.
* '''Subverted''' with Riruka Dokugamine; ''none'' of the Ichigirl pairings have attacked her for being interested in Ichigo, mainly due to how HilarityEnsues whenever she expresses it aroundhim.
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** It also sorta helps that Riruka's {{Tsundere}} traits make anEnsembleDarkhorse EnsembleDarkHorse in general, ''and'' that she has [[ShipTease some chemistry with]] ''[[LesYay Orihime]]'' as well.
* It doesn't help that the entire ''{{Bleach}}'' series is a) long running, b) Shonen, and c) likes to draw out its action scenes. Oh, and the mangaka likes to keep things intentionally vague about relationships for some reason (even ''{{Naruto}}'' has more relationship development). Hence people with preferred characters start to [[ShippingGoggles pick and choose]] to enhance relationshipdevelopment.
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**[[WordOfGod Word of God]] WordOfGod has said that he feels that the characters have more potential than just falling in love. Then again, this comes from the man that/ also said [[{{Troll}} the more hate Orihime gets, the more screen-time he gives her.]]
* Tatsuki is mercifully spared from this, except by fans who do not have all their marbles. Tatsuki has done nothing to earn the ire of either Ichi/Hime or Ichi/Ruki fans, and it also helps she is considered a secondary character by the fandom at large. Sometimes, however, she's used as the incarnation of this trope: while '''she''' doesn't get directly bashed in fanwork, she's sometimes chosen as [[WriterOnBoard the mouthpiece of choice for IchiHime bashers]], who then make her tell Orihime that she should fall out of love with Ichigo and go for others instead -- basically ''putting their own hate for the pairing in Tatsuki's mouth''.
* As a warning, don't ''ever'' bring up Senna in a conversation. Despite only appearing in one film, her chemistry with Ichigo provoked a lot of attacks from shippers of ''both'' Ichigo/Rukia and Ichigo/Orihime, but since she's never featured in any other Bleach-related media, outside of the first movie, a video game and a cameo in episode 204, the hate for her (thankfully) isn't as frequent or heated. Then again, one only needs to click on a fanart of the pairing or see the ''Memories of Nobody'' movie on
* '''Subverted''' with Riruka Dokugamine; ''none'' of the Ichigirl pairings have attacked her for being interested in Ichigo, mainly due to how HilarityEnsues whenever she expresses it around
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* It doesn't help that the entire ''{{Bleach}}'' series is a) long running, b) Shonen, and c) likes to draw out its action scenes. Oh, and the mangaka likes to keep things intentionally vague about relationships for some reason (even ''{{Naruto}}'' has more relationship development). Hence people with preferred characters start to [[ShippingGoggles pick and choose]] to enhance relationship
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* Tatsuki is mercifully spared from this, except by fans who do not have all their marbles. Tatsuki has done nothing to earn the ire of either Ichi/Hime or Ichi/Ruki fans, and it also helps she is considered a secondary character by the fandom at large. Sometimes, however, she's used as the incarnation of this trope: while '''she''' doesn't get directly bashed in fanwork, she's sometimes chosen as [[WriterOnBoard the mouthpiece of choice for IchiHime bashers]], who then make her tell Orihime that she should fall out of love with Ichigo and go for others instead -- basically ''putting their own hate for the pairing in Tatsuki's mouth''.
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** Actually, Renji hate has always been here and there. It's much more passive-aggressive than the loud and misogyny-based Orihime hate, though: the culprits tend to say Renji doesn't deserve Rukia's prospect romantic feelings for having contributed to her arrest (nevermind that Byakuya was in charge and thus Renji was bound to be there whether he wanted or not), whine because he stepped out of her life for years after she was adopted by the Kuchiki clan (because it's not like he thought that Rukia would have trouble for having bonds to someone under her new social status), etc. Threfore, for these people Renji is a massive, idiotic loser who will never measure up to Rukia's Perfect Man Ichigo ''and'' is considered as a possible love interest for her '''only''' by those who want to split up Ichigo and Rukia.
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** Actually, Renji hate has always been here and there. It's much more passive-aggressive than the loud and misogyny-based Orihime hate, though: the culprits tend to say Renji doesn't deserve Rukia's prospect romantic feelings for having contributed to her arrest (nevermind that Byakuya was in charge and thus Renji was bound to be there whether he wanted or not), not, which caused him quite a bit of angst), whine because he stepped out of her life for years after she was adopted by the Kuchiki clan (because it's not like he thought that Rukia would have trouble [[UptownGirl for having keeping bonds to someone who was under her new social status), status]]), etc. Threfore, for these people Renji is a massive, idiotic idiotic, woman-hating loser who will never measure up to Rukia's Perfect Man Ichigo ''and'' is must have been considered as a possible love interest for her '''only''' by those who want to split up Ichigo and Rukia.Rukia (Nevermind all the ShipTease between Rukia and Renji themselves, or even the scene where [[spoiler: Renji takes a HUGE risk via challenging Ichigo to "punish" him for putting Rukia at risk, and once he loses, he '''begs''' Ichigo to save her in his stead]]) [[http://true-love-ichihichi.tumblr.com/post/21746366036/arcadiasilver-yes-because-the-best-way-to-show Here is a very, VERY blatant (and also very innacurate) example of said Renji hate.]]
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Please stop erasing comments describing the questionable *and known* behavior of the most rabid Ichi Ruki fans.
** Reaches its worst extreme [[http://www.journalfen.net/community/fandom_wank/1280151.html when rabid IchiRukis make truly mindboggling assumptions]] about Orihime [[spoiler: FightingFromTheInside against Tsukishima's brainwashing]]. Such a fact somehow makes her a "shallow whore" and a "selfish bitch", whose care for Ichigo is "utterly pathetic" and "will never compare to Rukia's Eternal and Mature Love."
** And if you look at the discussion page for this section, well... the rabid Ichigo/Rukia fans are so threatened by Orihime that they've also ''trolled this very wiki'' to attack the character, the Ichigo/Orihime pairing, '''and''' the fans of both.
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** Actually, Renji hate has always been here and there. It's much more passive-aggressive than the loud and misogyny-based Orihime hate, though: the culprits tend to say Renji doesn't deserve Rukia's prospect romantic feelings for having contributed to her arrest (nevermind that Byakuya was in charge and thus Renji was bound to be there whether he wanted or not), whine because he stepped out of her life for years after she was adopted by the Kuchiki clan (because it's not like he thought that Rukia would havbe trouble for having bonds to someone under her new social status), etc. Threfore, for these people Renji is a massive, idiotic loser who will never measure up to Rukia's Perfect Man Ichigo ''and'' is considered as a possible love interest for her only by those who want to split up Ichigo and Rukia.
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** Actually, Renji hate has always been here and there. It's much more passive-aggressive than the loud and misogyny-based Orihime hate, though: the culprits tend to say Renji doesn't deserve Rukia's prospect romantic feelings for having contributed to her arrest (nevermind that Byakuya was in charge and thus Renji was bound to be there whether he wanted or not), whine because he stepped out of her life for years after she was adopted by the Kuchiki clan (because it's not like he thought that Rukia would havbe have trouble for having bonds to someone under her new social status), etc. Threfore, for these people Renji is a massive, idiotic loser who will never measure up to Rukia's Perfect Man Ichigo ''and'' is considered as a possible love interest for her only '''only''' by those who want to split up Ichigo and Rukia.
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** it also sorta helps that Riruka's {{Tsundere}} traits make an EnsembleDarkhorse in general, ''and'' that she has [[ShipTease some chemistry with]] ''[[LesYay Orihime]]'' as well.
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* Tatsuki is mercifully spared from this, except by fans who do not have all their marbles. Tatsuki has done nothing to earn the ire of either IchiHime or Ichi/Ruki fans, and it also helps she is considered a secondary character by the fandom at large. However, if that does change...
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* Tatsuki is mercifully spared from this, except by fans who do not have all their marbles. Tatsuki has done nothing to earn the ire of either IchiHime Ichi/Hime or Ichi/Ruki fans, and it also helps she is considered a secondary character by the fandom at large. However, if Sometimes, however, she's used as the incarnation of this trope: while '''she''' doesn't get directly bashed in fanwork, she's sometimes chosen as [[WriterOnBoard the mouthpiece of choice for IchiHime bashers]], who then make her tell Orihime that does change...she should fall out of love with Ichigo and go for others instead -- basically ''putting their own hate for the pairing in Tatsuki's mouth''.
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*** It is also rather silly. Just because a character arranged for a meeting does not mean that all the emotions and development between those characters is automatically rendered invalid.
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*** It is also rather silly. Just because a character arranged for a meeting does not mean that all the emotions and development between those characters is automatically rendered invalid. It's not just a blind claim either: Kubo wrote the words about "The Story of Destiny" himself.
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** Some fans go as far as to twist the [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming very sweet]] ([[LesYay and femslashy]], for some) scene between them where [[spoiler: Rukia vehemently tells Orihime that [[YouAreNotAlone she's a great person and her friends love her]], that she was not a burden to them and that [[IOweYouMyLife if Orihime hadn't been there, Rukia would have died]], ]], pulling her from the HeroicBSOD state she's been for a while]] into a "CatFight" where Rukia curses and bitches at Orihime for laying her eyes on Ichigo.
** Reaches its more idiotic, misogynistic and almost ''horrifying'' extreme [[http://www.journalfen.net/community/fandom_wank/1280151.html when rabid IchiRukis make truly mindboggling assumptions]] about Orihime [[spoiler: FightingFromTheInside against Tsukishima's brainwashing]]. Such a fact somehow makes her a "shallow whore" and a "selfish bitch", whose care for Ichigo is "utterly pathetic" and "will never compare to Rukia's Eternal and Mature Love.
** Reaches its more idiotic, misogynistic and almost ''horrifying'' extreme [[http://www.journalfen.net/community/fandom_wank/1280151.html when rabid IchiRukis make truly mindboggling assumptions]] about Orihime [[spoiler: FightingFromTheInside against Tsukishima's brainwashing]]. Such a fact somehow makes her a "shallow whore" and a "selfish bitch", whose care for Ichigo is "utterly pathetic" and "will never compare to Rukia's Eternal and Mature Love.
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** Some fans go as far as to twist the [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming very sweet]] ([[LesYay and femslashy]], for some) scene between them where [[spoiler: Rukia vehemently tells Orihime that [[YouAreNotAlone she's a great person and her friends love her]], that she was not a burden to them and that [[IOweYouMyLife if Orihime hadn't been there, Rukia would have died]], ]], pulling her from the HeroicBSOD state she's been for a while]] into a "CatFight" where Rukia curses and bitches at Orihime for laying her eyes on Ichigo.
** Reaches its more idiotic, misogynistic and almost ''horrifying'' extreme [[http://www.journalfen.net/community/fandom_wank/1280151.html when rabid IchiRukis make truly mindboggling assumptions]] about Orihime [[spoiler: FightingFromTheInside against Tsukishima's brainwashing]]. Such a fact somehow makes her a "shallow whore" and a "selfish bitch", whose care for Ichigo is "utterly pathetic" and "will never compare to Rukia's Eternal and Mature Love.Ichigo.
** Reaches its more idiotic, misogynistic and almost ''horrifying'' extreme [[http://www.journalfen.net/community/fandom_wank/1280151.html when rabid IchiRukis make truly mindboggling assumptions]] about Orihime [[spoiler: FightingFromTheInside against Tsukishima's brainwashing]]. Such a fact somehow makes her a "shallow whore" and a "selfish bitch", whose care for Ichigo is "utterly pathetic" and "will never compare to Rukia's Eternal and Mature Love.
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** And if you look at the discussion page for this section, well... the rabid Ichigo/Rukia fans are so threatened by Orihime that they've also ''trolled this very wiki'' to attack the character, the Ichigo/Orihime pairing, '''and''' the fans of both.
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** Actually, she's often used as the incarnation of this trope. While '''she''' doesn't get directly bashed in fanwork, she's sometimes chosen as [[WriterOnBoard the mouthpiece of choice for IchiHime bashers]], who then make her tell Orihime that she should fall out of love with Ichigo and go for others instead -- basically ''putting their own Ichigo/Orihime bashing in Tatsuki's mouth'', nevermind that ''nothing'' in canon says Tatsuki would disagree to having two of her closest friends hook up...
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* And recently many rabid [[MindGameShip Ulquiorra/Orihime]] fans have joined in the ShipToShipCombat against Ichigo/Orihime (and sometimes even Renji/Rukia). Surprisingly they never seem to actually defend Ulquiorra/Orihime; in fact, their level of sheer and utter ''hatred'' for Orihime and the Ichigo/Orihime pairing sometimes reaches ''scary'' levels, and one has to wonder just why they claim to ship a pairing that involves someone they hate so much. (The answer is, of course, that most of them rabidly ship Ichigo/Rukia and treat Ulquiorra/Orihime as only ShipMates, much to the annoyance of real Ulquorra/Orihime fans who actually ship the pair and don't give a damn about Ichigo/Rukia.)
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* And recently many rabid [[MindGameShip Ulquiorra/Orihime]] fans have joined in the ShipToShipCombat against Ichigo/Orihime (and sometimes even Renji/Rukia). Surprisingly they never seem to actually defend Ulquiorra/Orihime; in fact, their level of sheer and utter ''hatred'' for Orihime and the Ichigo/Orihime pairing sometimes reaches ''scary'' levels, and one has to wonder just why they claim to ship a pairing that involves someone they hate so much. (The answer is, of course, that most of them rabidly ship Ichigo/Rukia and treat Ulquiorra/Orihime as only ShipMates, much to the annoyance of real Ulquorra/Orihime Ulquiorra/Orihime fans who actually ship the pair and don't give a damn about Ichigo/Rukia.))
** [[http://ripvanwinkle.deviantart.com/#/d4evoke A good example is this "Ulquihime" essay.]] According to the "writer", Ulquiorra's feelings for Orihime asre Complete and Absolute ~True Love~ that should never be denied or challenged, but Orihime's feelings for Ichigo are total little girl shit that doesn't matter unless it's to point how immature and horrible she is. [[DoubleStandard No, just no.]]
** [[http://ripvanwinkle.deviantart.com/#/d4evoke A good example is this "Ulquihime" essay.]] According to the "writer", Ulquiorra's feelings for Orihime asre Complete and Absolute ~True Love~ that should never be denied or challenged, but Orihime's feelings for Ichigo are total little girl shit that doesn't matter unless it's to point how immature and horrible she is. [[DoubleStandard No, just no.]]
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** [[http://ripvanwinkle.deviantart.com/#/d4evoke Read this UlquiHime essay.]] Pick up the UnfortunateImplications it brings. Ulquorra's feelings for Orihime? Complete and Absolute ~True Love~ that should never be denied or challenged because Ulquiorra is pretty much God. Orihime's feelings for Ichigo, including her AnguishedDeclarationOfLove? Total little girl shit that doesn't matter unless it's to point how immature and horrible she is. [[DoubleStandard Eeeeeeew.]]
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** And when you've got society's general double standards that pit women against each other, and define women by the success of their romantic relationships, you have a perfect storm. Most IchiRuki fans appreciate that there is [[BechdelTest more than one prominent female character]] in Bleach. Others, however, sincerely believe that Orihime was written mainly to be a StrawLoser to Rukia -- to the point where the poor girl is [[RonTheDeathEater nitpicked]] and compared against Neliel, Jackie, Tatsuki, Nozomi, and others who have nothing to do with the Rukia/Ichigo/Orihime love triangle.
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** Reaches its more idiotic, misogynistic and almost ''horrifying'' extreme [[http://www.journalfen.net/community/wank_report/888.html?thread=7498616#t7498616 when rabid IchiRukis make truly mindboggling assumptions]] about Orihime [[spoiler: FightingFromTheInside against Tsukishima's brainwashing]]. Such a fact somehow makes her a "shallow whore" and a "selfish bitch", whose care for Ichigo is "utterly pathetic" and "will never compare to Rukia's Eternal and Mature Love.
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** Reaches its more idiotic, misogynistic and almost ''horrifying'' extreme [[http://www.journalfen.net/community/wank_report/888.html?thread=7498616#t7498616 net/community/fandom_wank/1280151.html when rabid IchiRukis make truly mindboggling assumptions]] about Orihime [[spoiler: FightingFromTheInside against Tsukishima's brainwashing]]. Such a fact somehow makes her a "shallow whore" and a "selfish bitch", whose care for Ichigo is "utterly pathetic" and "will never compare to Rukia's Eternal and Mature Love.
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** And if you look at the discussion page for this section, well... the rabid Ichigo/Rukia fans are so threatened by Orihime that they've also ''trolled this very wiki'' to attack the character, the Ichigo/Orihime pairing, '''and''' the fans of both.
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** [[WordOfGod Word of God]] has said that he feels that the characters have more potential than just falling in love. Then again, this comes from the man that also said [[{{Troll}} the more hate Orihime gets, the more screen-time he gives her.]]
* Tatsuki is mercifully spared from this, except by fans who do not have all their marbles. Tatsuki has done nothing to earn the ire of either IchiHime or IchiRuki fans, and it also helps she is considered a secondary character by the fandom at large. However, if that does change...
* Tatsuki is mercifully spared from this, except by fans who do not have all their marbles. Tatsuki has done nothing to earn the ire of either IchiHime or IchiRuki fans, and it also helps she is considered a secondary character by the fandom at large. However, if that does change...
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** [[WordOfGod Word of God]] has said that he feels that the characters have more potential than just falling in love. Then again, this comes from the man that that/ also said [[{{Troll}} the more hate Orihime gets, the more screen-time he gives her.]]
* Tatsuki is mercifully spared from this, except by fans who do not have all their marbles. Tatsuki has done nothing to earn the ire of either IchiHime orIchiRuki Ichi/Ruki fans, and it also helps she is considered a secondary character by the fandom at large. However, if that does change...change...
** Actually, she's often used as the incarnation of this trope. While '''she''' doesn't get directly bashed in fanwork, she's sometimes chosen as [[WriterOnBoard the mouthpiece of choice for IchiHime bashers]], who then make her tell Orihime that she should fall out of love with Ichigo and go for others instead -- basically ''putting their own Ichigo/Orihime bashing in Tatsuki's mouth'', nevermind that ''nothing'' in canon says Tatsuki would disagree to having two of her closest friends hook up...
* Tatsuki is mercifully spared from this, except by fans who do not have all their marbles. Tatsuki has done nothing to earn the ire of either IchiHime or
** Actually, she's often used as the incarnation of this trope. While '''she''' doesn't get directly bashed in fanwork, she's sometimes chosen as [[WriterOnBoard the mouthpiece of choice for IchiHime bashers]], who then make her tell Orihime that she should fall out of love with Ichigo and go for others instead -- basically ''putting their own Ichigo/Orihime bashing in Tatsuki's mouth'', nevermind that ''nothing'' in canon says Tatsuki would disagree to having two of her closest friends hook up...
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** Actually, Renji hate has always been here and there. It's much more passive-aggressive than the loud and misogyny-based Orihime hate, though: the culprits tend to say Renji doesn't deserve Rukia's prospect romantic feelings for having contributed to her arrest (nevermind that Byakuya was in charge and thus Renji was bound to be there whether he wanted or not), who whine because he stepped out of her life for years due to thinking she was outta his reach after having been adopted by the Kuchiki clan (because it's not like he thought it'd be the best), and thus he's as a loser who will never measure up to Rukia's Perfect Man Ichigo ''and'' is considered as a possible love interest for her only by those who want to split up Ichigo and Rukia.
* For many reasons, some Renji/Ichigo fans can get batshit crazy and bash both girls.
* For many reasons, some Renji/Ichigo fans can get batshit crazy and bash both girls.
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** Actually, Renji hate has always been here and there. It's much more passive-aggressive than the loud and misogyny-based Orihime hate, though: the culprits tend to say Renji doesn't deserve Rukia's prospect romantic feelings for having contributed to her arrest (nevermind that Byakuya was in charge and thus Renji was bound to be there whether he wanted or not), who whine because he stepped out of her life for years due to thinking after she was outta his reach after having been adopted by the Kuchiki clan (because it's not like he thought it'd be the best), and thus he's as that Rukia would havbe trouble for having bonds to someone under her new social status), etc. Threfore, for these people Renji is a massive, idiotic loser who will never measure up to Rukia's Perfect Man Ichigo ''and'' is considered as a possible love interest for her only by those who want to split up Ichigo and Rukia.
* For many reasons, some Renji/Ichigo fans can get batshit crazy and bash bothgirls.Orihime and Rukia. Don't ask.
* For many reasons, some Renji/Ichigo fans can get batshit crazy and bash both
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** For many reasons, some Renji/Ichigo fans can get batshit crazy and bash both girls.
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** Actually, Renji hate has always been here and there. It's much more passive-aggressive than the loud and misogyny-based Orihime hate, though: the culprits tend to say Renji doesn't deserve Rukia's prospect romantic feelings for having contributed to her arrest (nevermind that Byakuya was in charge and thus Renji was bound to be there whether he wanted or not), who whine because he stepped out of her life for years due to thinking she was outta his reach after having been adopted by the Kuchiki clan (because it's not like he thought it'd be the best), and thus he's as a loser who will never measure up to Rukia's Perfect Man Ichigo ''and'' is considered as a possible love interest for her only by those who want to split up Ichigo and Rukia.
* For many reasons, some Renji/Ichigo fans can get batshit crazy and bash both girls.
* For many reasons, some Renji/Ichigo fans can get batshit crazy and bash both girls.
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* Ichigo x Tatsuki is mercifully spared from this, except by fans who do not have all their marbles. Tatsuki has done nothing to earn the ire of either IchiHime or IchiRuki fans, and it also helps she is considered a secondary character by the fandom at large. However, if that does change...
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* Ichigo x Tatsuki is mercifully spared from this, except by fans who do not have all their marbles. Tatsuki has done nothing to earn the ire of either IchiHime or IchiRuki fans, and it also helps she is considered a secondary character by the fandom at large. However, if that does change...
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** [[WordOfGod Word of God]] has said that he feels that the characters have more potential than just falling in love. Then again, this comes from the man that also said [[{{Troll}} the more hate Orihime gets, the more screen-time he gives her.]]
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** [[WordOfGod Word of God]] has said that he feels that the characters have more potential than just falling in love. Then again, this comes from the man that also said [[{{Troll}} the more hate Orihime gets, the more screen-time he gives her.]]]]
* Ichigo x Tatsuki is mercifully spared from this, except by fans who do not have all their marbles. Tatsuki has done nothing to earn the ire of either IchiHime or IchiRuki fans, and it also helps she is considered a secondary character by the fandom at large. However, if that does change...
* Ichigo x Tatsuki is mercifully spared from this, except by fans who do not have all their marbles. Tatsuki has done nothing to earn the ire of either IchiHime or IchiRuki fans, and it also helps she is considered a secondary character by the fandom at large. However, if that does change...
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*** It is also rather silly. Just because a character arranged for a meeting does not mean that all the emotions and development between those characters is automatically rendered invalid.
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** Some fans go as far as to twist the [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming very sweet]] ([[LesYay and femslashy]], for some) scene between them where [[spoiler: Rukia vehemently tells Orihime that [[YouAreNotAlone she's a great person and her friends love her, that she was not a burden to them and that [[IOweYouMyLife if Orihime hadn't been there, Rukia would have died]], ]], pulling her from the HeroicBSOD state she's been for a while]] into a "CatFight" where Rukia curses and bitches at Orihime for laying her eyes on Ichigo.
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** Some fans go as far as to twist the [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming very sweet]] ([[LesYay and femslashy]], for some) scene between them where [[spoiler: Rukia vehemently tells Orihime that [[YouAreNotAlone she's a great person and her friends love her, her]], that she was not a burden to them and that [[IOweYouMyLife if Orihime hadn't been there, Rukia would have died]], ]], pulling her from the HeroicBSOD state she's been for a while]] into a "CatFight" where Rukia curses and bitches at Orihime for laying her eyes on Ichigo.
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** Some fans go as far as to twist the [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming very sweet]] ([[LesYay and femslashy]], for some) scene between them where [[spoiler: Rukia vehemently tells Orihime that [[YouAreNotAlone she's a great person and her friends love her]], pulling her from the HeroicBSOD state she's been for a while]] into a "CatFight" where Rukia curses and bitches at Orihime for laying her eyes on Ichigo.
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** Some fans go as far as to twist the [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming very sweet]] ([[LesYay and femslashy]], for some) scene between them where [[spoiler: Rukia vehemently tells Orihime that [[YouAreNotAlone she's a great person and her friends love her]], her, that she was not a burden to them and that [[IOweYouMyLife if Orihime hadn't been there, Rukia would have died]], ]], pulling her from the HeroicBSOD state she's been for a while]] into a "CatFight" where Rukia curses and bitches at Orihime for laying her eyes on Ichigo.
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* [[BodyguardCrush Sui]]-[[BrokenBird Feng]] is frequently twisted into a mixture of PsychoLesbian and [[DoesNotLikeMen rabid]] [[StrawFeminist misandrist]] by the most militant [[MadScientist Urahara]]/[[ActionGirl Yoruichi]] shippers. ''Even on this very wiki''. What is especially ironic is that ''[[LovableSexManiac Urahara]]'' himself would likely be ''[[YuriFanboy overjoyed]]'' at the prospect of [[LesYay Sui Feng/Yoruichi.]]
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* [[BodyguardCrush Sui]]-[[BrokenBird Feng]] So]][[BrokenBird if]][[SpellMyNameWithAnS on]] is frequently twisted into a mixture of PsychoLesbian and [[DoesNotLikeMen rabid]] [[StrawFeminist misandrist]] by the most militant [[MadScientist Urahara]]/[[ActionGirl Yoruichi]] shippers. ''Even on this very wiki''. What is especially ironic is that ''[[LovableSexManiac Urahara]]'' himself would likely be ''[[YuriFanboy overjoyed]]'' at the prospect of [[LesYay Sui Feng/Yoruichi.]]
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** Furthermore, it's been revealed that [[CompleteMonster Aizen]] had [[XanatosRoulette manipulated Ichigo's development]], [[ItMakesSenseInContext including the very first meeting between himself and Rukia]]. Naturally, this upset many Ichiruki shippers, who wildly denied such a declaration, but Aizen himself was finished off by Ichigo at the end of the Deicide arc, so they won't disparage him as much either. In both cases, instead of the typical ShipToShipCombat, shippers were just peeved that another character 'disproved' the "certainty" of Ichigo getting together with Rukia.
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** Furthermore, it's been revealed that [[CompleteMonster Aizen]] had [[XanatosRoulette [[GambitRoulette manipulated Ichigo's development]], [[ItMakesSenseInContext including the very first meeting between himself and Rukia]]. Naturally, this upset many Ichiruki shippers, who wildly denied such a declaration, but Aizen himself was finished off by Ichigo at the end of the Deicide arc, so they won't disparage him as much either. In both cases, instead of the typical ShipToShipCombat, shippers were just peeved that another character 'disproved' the "certainty" of Ichigo getting together with Rukia.
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** [[WordOfGod Word of God]] has said that he feels that the characters have more potential than just falling in love. Then again, this comes from the man that also said [[{{Troll}} the more hate Orihime gets, the more screen-time he gives her.]]
* So, in short; Orihime would have to never exist for Ichigo/Rukia, Rukia would have to die for Ichigo/Orihime, Ichigo would have to spur Orihime's love(and everyone has to be in their right mind) for Ulquiorra/Orihime AND Ichigo/Riruka, Ichigo would have to die for Renji/Rukia, Gin/Izuru is just fine, BlahBlahBlah, Nell has to come back to the plot for Ichigo/Nel, and Ulquiorra would have to do... well, nothing for Ichigo/Orihime expect leave Orihime alone. [[spoiler: Granted, with fans hot on his tail and the fact Tite practically started that pairing, I'm pretty sure nothing good will ever happen.]]
* So, in short; Orihime would have to never exist for Ichigo/Rukia, Rukia would have to die for Ichigo/Orihime, Ichigo would have to spur Orihime's love(and everyone has to be in their right mind) for Ulquiorra/Orihime AND Ichigo/Riruka, Ichigo would have to die for Renji/Rukia, Gin/Izuru is just fine, BlahBlahBlah, Nell has to come back to the plot for Ichigo/Nel, and Ulquiorra would have to do... well, nothing for Ichigo/Orihime expect leave Orihime alone. [[spoiler: Granted, with fans hot on his tail and the fact Tite practically started that pairing, I'm pretty sure nothing good will ever happen.]]
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** [[WordOfGod Word of God]] has said that he feels that the characters have more potential than just falling in love. Then again, this comes from the man that also said [[{{Troll}} the more hate Orihime gets, the more screen-time he gives her.]]
* So, in short; Orihime would have to never exist for Ichigo/Rukia, Rukia would have to die for Ichigo/Orihime, Ichigo would have to spur Orihime's love(and everyone has to be in their right mind) for Ulquiorra/Orihime AND Ichigo/Riruka, Ichigo would have to die for Renji/Rukia, Gin/Izuru is just fine, BlahBlahBlah, Nell has to come back to the plot for Ichigo/Nel, and Ulquiorra would have to do... well, nothing for Ichigo/Orihime expect leave Orihime alone. [[spoiler: Granted, with fans hot on his tail and the fact Tite practically started that pairing, I'm pretty sure nothing good will ever happen.]]
* So, in short; Orihime would have to never exist for Ichigo/Rukia, Rukia would have to die for Ichigo/Orihime, Ichigo would have to spur Orihime's love(and everyone has to be in their right mind) for Ulquiorra/Orihime AND Ichigo/Riruka, Ichigo would have to die for Renji/Rukia, Gin/Izuru is just fine, BlahBlahBlah, Nell has to come back to the plot for Ichigo/Nel, and Ulquiorra would have to do... well, nothing for Ichigo/Orihime expect leave Orihime alone. [[spoiler: Granted, with fans hot on his tail and the fact Tite practically started that pairing, I'm pretty sure nothing good will ever happen.
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** [[WordOfGod Word of God]] has said that he feels that the characters have more potential than just falling in love. Then again, this comes from the man that also said [[{{Troll}} the more hate Orihime gets, the more screen-time he gives her.]]
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** [[WordOfGod Word of God]] has said that he feels that the characters have more potential than just falling in love. Then again, this comes from the man that also said [[{{Troll}} the more hate Orihime gets, the more screen-time he gives her.]]
* So, in short; Orihime would have to never exist for Ichigo/Rukia, Rukia would have to die for Ichigo/Orihime, Ichigo would have to spur Orihime's love(and everyone has to be in their right mind) for Ulquiorra/Orihime AND Ichigo/Riruka, Ichigo would have to die for Renji/Rukia, Gin/Izuru is just fine, BlahBlahBlah, Nell has to come back to the plot for Ichigo/Nel, and Ulquiorra would have to do... well, nothing for Ichigo/Orihime expect leave Orihime alone. [[spoiler: Granted, with fans hot on his tail and the fact Tite practically started that pairing, I'm pretty sure nothing good will ever happen.]]
* So, in short; Orihime would have to never exist for Ichigo/Rukia, Rukia would have to die for Ichigo/Orihime, Ichigo would have to spur Orihime's love(and everyone has to be in their right mind) for Ulquiorra/Orihime AND Ichigo/Riruka, Ichigo would have to die for Renji/Rukia, Gin/Izuru is just fine, BlahBlahBlah, Nell has to come back to the plot for Ichigo/Nel, and Ulquiorra would have to do... well, nothing for Ichigo/Orihime expect leave Orihime alone. [[spoiler: Granted, with fans hot on his tail and the fact Tite practically started that pairing, I'm pretty sure nothing good will ever happen.]]
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** To be fair, [[SpellMyNameWithAnS Soifon]] is usually portrayed this way in the anime... But it's always [[PlayedForLaughs Played for Laughs]], and [[TheTease Yoru]][[LovableSexManiac ichi]] sure doesn't seem to mind all the attention.
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** [[SpellMyNameWithAnS Soifon]] is usually portrayed this way in the anime... But it's always [[PlayedForLaughs Played for Laughs]], and [[TheTease Yoru]][[LovableSexManiac ichi]] sure doesn't seem to mind all the attention.
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** Didn't Soifon use her bankai on her fellow shinigami just because she wanted a christmas card with Yoruichi on it?
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** Didn't Soifon use her bankai on her fellow shinigami just because she wanted a christmas card with Yoruichi on it?[[SpellMyNameWithAnS Soifon]] is usually portrayed this way in the anime... But it's always [[PlayedForLaughs Played for Laughs]], and [[TheTease Yoru]][[LovableSexManiac ichi]] sure doesn't seem to mind all the attention.
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** Some fans go as far as to twist the [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming very sweet]] ([[LesYay and femslashy]], for some) scene between them where [[spoiler: Rukia vehemently tells Orihime that [[YouAreNotAlone she's a great person and her friends love her]], pulling her from the HeroicBSOD state she's been for a while]] into a "CatFight" where Rukia curses and bitches at Orihime for laying her eyes on Ichigo. FanDumb at its finest.
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** Some fans go as far as to twist the [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming very sweet]] ([[LesYay and femslashy]], for some) scene between them where [[spoiler: Rukia vehemently tells Orihime that [[YouAreNotAlone she's a great person and her friends love her]], pulling her from the HeroicBSOD state she's been for a while]] into a "CatFight" where Rukia curses and bitches at Orihime for laying her eyes on Ichigo. FanDumb at its finest.
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** Didn't Soifon use her bankai on her fellow shinigami just because she wanted a christmas card with Yoruichi on it?
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** Some fans go as far as to twist the [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming very sweet]] ([[LesYay and femslashy]], for some) scene between them where [[spoiler: Rukia vehemently tells Orihime that [[YouAreNotAlone she's a great person and her friends lover her]], pulling her from the HeroicBSOD state she's been for a while]] into a "CatFight" where Rukia curses and bitches at Orihime for laying her eyes on Ichigo. FanDumb at its finest.
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** Some fans go as far as to twist the [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming very sweet]] ([[LesYay and femslashy]], for some) scene between them where [[spoiler: Rukia vehemently tells Orihime that [[YouAreNotAlone she's a great person and her friends lover love her]], pulling her from the HeroicBSOD state she's been for a while]] into a "CatFight" where Rukia curses and bitches at Orihime for laying her eyes on Ichigo. FanDumb at its finest.
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** For the ''somewhat'' saner ones, at least, the hate for Orihime in particular is in part due to RealWomenNeverWearDresses, [[DoubleStandard even as BOTH fans and haters alike invoke the latter trope in their support or opposition towards one girl over the other]].
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* Despite only appearing in one film, Senna's chemistry with Ichigo provoked a lot of attacks from shippers of ''both'' Ichigo/Rukia and Ichigo/Orihime, but since she's never featured in any other Bleach-related media, outside of the first movie, a video game and a cameo in episode 204, the hate for her (thankfully) isn't as frequent or heated. One only needs to click on a fanart of the pairing or see the ''Memories of Nobody'' movie on youtube to find people's loathing for it and Senna.
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** It doesn't end there. Momo is likewise the main target from Hitsugaya/Matsumoto shippers for - you guessed it - [[RealWomenNeverWearDresses being SO loyal to Aizen, that she was in traumatized denial of his betrayal for quite some time after he stabbed her]]. Because ''how dare she'' be affected by all the shit she went through and react ''like a normal person would''.
* A very, ''very'' welcome subversion comes along the lines of Ichigo/Nelliel. Neither the [=IchiHime=] nor the [=IchiRuki=] shippers have ever attacked Nelliel for her affectionate behavior towards Ichigo. In fact, most of them actually ''like'' Nelliel, and a few even have her as a sub-pairing that they enjoy toying with in some fanart or fanfiction. It helps that she's both a GenkiGirl ''and'' an ActionGirl.
* As a warning, don't ''ever'' bring up Senna in a conversation. Despite only appearing in one film,Senna's her chemistry with Ichigo provoked a lot of attacks from shippers of ''both'' Ichigo/Rukia and Ichigo/Orihime, but since she's never featured in any other Bleach-related media, outside of the first movie, a video game and a cameo in episode 204, the hate for her (thankfully) isn't as frequent or heated. One Then again, one only needs to click on a fanart of the pairing or see the ''Memories of Nobody'' movie on youtube YouTube to find people's someones' loathing for it and Senna.
* A very, ''very'' welcome subversion comes along the lines of Ichigo/Nelliel. Neither the [=IchiHime=] nor the [=IchiRuki=] shippers have ever attacked Nelliel for her affectionate behavior towards Ichigo. In fact, most of them actually ''like'' Nelliel, and a few even have her as a sub-pairing that they enjoy toying with in some fanart or fanfiction. It helps that she's both a GenkiGirl ''and'' an ActionGirl.
* As a warning, don't ''ever'' bring up Senna in a conversation. Despite only appearing in one film,
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** [[http://ripvanwinkle.deviantart.com/#/d4evoke Read this UlquiHime essay.]] Pick up the UnfortunateImplications it brings. Ulquorra's feelings for Orihime? Complete and Absolute ~True Love~ that should never be denied or challenged. Orihime's feelings for Ichigo? Total little girl shit that she ~must get over~ so she can ~bring Ulquiorra back~. [[DoubleStandard Eeeeeeew.]]
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** [[http://ripvanwinkle.deviantart.com/#/d4evoke Read this UlquiHime essay.]] Pick up the UnfortunateImplications it brings. Ulquorra's feelings for Orihime? Complete and Absolute ~True Love~ that should never be denied or challenged because Ulquiorra is pretty much God. Orihime's feelings for Ichigo, including her AnguishedDeclarationOfLove? Total little girl shit that doesn't matter unless it's to point how immature and horrible she is. [[DoubleStandard Eeeeeeew.]]
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** [[http://ripvanwinkle.deviantart.com/#/d4evoke Read this UlquiHime essay.]] Pick up the UnfortunateImplications it brings. Ulquorra's feelings for Orihime? Complete and Absolute ~True Love~ that should never be denied or challenged. Orihime's feelings for Ichigo? Total little girl shit that she ~must get over~ so she can ~bring Ulquiorra back~. [[DoubleStandard Eeeeeeew.]]
