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Nov 8th 2012 at 11:56:23 AM •••

I would like to request that the page be sectioned off into folders, along with doing over the entire thread.

Aug 19th 2012 at 12:24:12 PM •••

And you are a hypocrite, Orihime. Whenever I usually find something that paints Inoue as some kind of victim, I can practically smell your fingerprints all over it, while villainizing every other fandom as the true evil. Do you know why I don't like Inoue and Ichi Hime? One word: LUST. "Oh, but she's in wuv with him", you may say, BUT I DON'T GIVE A CRAP ABOUT THAT! She made promises to herself in the beginning of the Arrancar saga to grow stronger and no longer rely on Ichigo, but what happened by the time of Lust? She went back on all of her promises that she made to herself, and cried for Ichigo, who was bleeding to death from a massive hole in his chest, to save HER.

In one singular moment, she went backwards in her development as a character all the way to what she was like at the very beginning of the arc, and what is the reason for all of it? Her one-sided feelings of love for Ichigo. The pairing as a whole during the Arrancar saga was a situation where it negatively impacted one of the characters. What's equally sickening is that members of the Ichi Hime pairing idolize the Lust arc as a crowning moment for the pairing, claiming that Ichigo was willing to give up his humanity to save Inoue.

LIKE HELL HE WAS! Not only do they idolize it, but they are completely ignoring the despair that Ichigo's character fell into as a result of the events on the Dome. It's completely selfish, and disregards what happened to both Ichigo and Uryu on the Dome in favour of putting their ship on a pedestal.

This fact is also shown in the History of the page. Every single negative thing about every other ship that is potentially in opposition to Ichigo/Orihime is all your doing, Orihime. It's to the extent that there is only one small paragraph about how Ichi Hime shippers bash other ships in comparison to paragraphs about how "evil" other rabid and militant shippers from other pairings are.

But I suppose that is to be expected, because Ichi Hime shippers operate under the delusion that everyone in the manga, including the Big Bads, supports Ichigo/Orihime. It's gotten to a point where the entire Die For Our Ship thread should be white-washed and started anew.

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Aug 23rd 2012 at 7:02:57 AM •••

I had a long rant about your behavior, what you've done against Orihime/Ichigo x Orihime fans outside TV tropes, how you're being WAY more personal and invested than I am in this (an yes, I admit I'm pretty into this as well), and how your loathing of Orihime is reaching creepy levels due to how you keep mansplaining and victim-blaming her for the horrible things she was subjected to ("Letting herself be kidnapped", "going backwards in her development"?, "disregards what Ichigo and Uryu went through"?), as well as gotting personal in your grudge against people who point out how full of crap this is.

... But you won't listen, and you'll keep being creepily invested in disregarding me and other Orihime fans who are sick of the hate, slutshaming and victim-blaming she gets even here. You're honestly a lost case. From now on, if I do see more anti-Orihime comments, I'll just delete them and won't comment. Because you'll use this as a yet another thin excuse to hate me as well as all of the Ichigo/Orihime shippers, and keep rehashing old and recycled anti-Orihime arguments that are THREE OR FOUR YEARS OLD.

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Aug 23rd 2012 at 9:23:06 AM •••

Ok, guys? Can you dial down the personal insults or do I need to call a mod in?

Jan 22nd 2012 at 9:14:40 PM •••

I think it would be funny if this page had an illustration similar to what's on Draco In Leather Pants... "CANON" with a screencap of Rukia and Orihime having a sweet friendship moment, then "FANON" with a bad drawing of them in a big dramatic catfight over Ichigo...

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Jan 1st 2012 at 7:44:17 PM •••

Added a practical "TL;DR" addition at the bottom. I home no one minds and, if you want, feel free to add onto it.

Sep 4th 2011 at 6:07:42 PM •••

  • This page is all well and good, until you consider that the Ichigo/Orihime faction has an entire forum to themselves, just for trolling/bashing the other pairing. In fact, this is so bad, there is an entire thread devoted solely to bashing Ichigo/Rukia. Of course, this isn't officially its purpose, but it's what it ends up as. Of course, you do have to sign in to view it, which is suspicious in itself. And on top of that, in essays such as this they proclaim innocence, yet still refuse to read responses such as this.

Sweetheart, NO. Let me tell you this:

  • It's very much NOT kosher to drop friendslocked contents. Not even wankhigh places like Fandom Wank and the RP Anon comm admit such tactics, so why should we Tv Tropers admit them? It's a low blow as well as utterly stupid, and a great weay to make yourselves look worse than those you try to "expose".
  • AFAIK, that forum is friendslocked due to constant trolling coming from rabid Ichigo/Rukia fans who can't stand seeing a forun dedicated to ichigo/Orihime. The mods continuously have to ban people who go there to stir trouble, and many sockpuppets have been found.
  • Even if there WAS "heavy" Ichigo/Rukia bashing, it's absolutely NOTHING compared with the shit that rabid Ichigo/Rukia and Rukia fans constantly spit against Orihime. Nothing. Is there any wonder that Ichi/Rukis *as a whole* are known as "The Harmonians/Zutarians of Bleach", and that normal Ichigo/Rukia fans often end up apologizing for the crap that their fellow fans show? In BA itself the Ichi Ruki FC, the general Bleach threads and others are often chockfull of Orihime hate, and judging for the signatures/icons/opinions. it comes from rabid Ichi/Ruki fans more often than not. So it's unfair and idiotic to blash FLOL for a *possible* single Ichiruki "bashing" thread without mentioning how BA loathes Orihime to a rabid point and show it in MANY threads (even the Orihime FC, where mods had THRICE to tell people to stop bashing Orihime in her own fanclub!).
  • Linking to a rant made in reply to unfair stereotypes against the Ichihime pairing as a whole, and then whining when the author refuses to take obvious wankbait? You know, crystaldawn is is NOT way forced to reply to an essay that actually BASHES her and others all over, and expecting her to do so is ridiculous and damn entitled.

Also, I find VERY suspicious that this happens in EXACTLY the same week in which rabid Ichigo/Rukia and Rukia fans exploded in absolute vicious HATRED of Orihime due to her feelings being YET AGAIN confirmed by canon. A week in which BA/Bleachness people were caught REPETEADLY trying to make all of /a/ hate her via infiltrating it with bashing posts. Here is the Fandom Wank report on that.

So no, this is a VERY dickish move, and I'm sure that this is YET ANOTHER attempt from rabid Ichi/Ruki and/or Rukia fans coming from either Bleachness or Bleach Asylum to make anything related to Orihime and her fans looks like crap. It didn't work on /a/, it woudn't work on fail_fandomanon if you tried it there, and it's not likely to work here.

Go back to wherever you are from (likely Bleachness/BA) and keep your hatred of Ichigo/Orihime and Orihime herself there. Stuff like this is pathetic, vicious, and utterly stupid.

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Nov 9th 2011 at 8:23:32 PM •••

Jesus H. Christ.

I'm not sure what it is I'm looking at, but I do know that editing someone's post to express your own views is also not "kosher" on this site. Also, I corrected someone's spelling of "sweetheart", although "swetheart" was pretty humorous and perhaps I should have left it in.

Regardless, Orihime, and whoever Orihime pissed off...just...I don't know, act a little more like mature kids, teens, or adults, and be little less vitriolic. Goddamn.

Dec 23rd 2011 at 8:44:56 PM •••

Out of curiousity, is there ANYONE here that isn't a Ichigo/Rukia or Ichigo/Orihime fan? The first troper was a Ichigo/Rukia fan and the second troper was a Ichigo/Orihime fan. Can I please have a unbiased opinion on the above two statements? This troper is a reasonable Die For Our Ship Ichigo/Rukia fan, and so cannot compose a proper reply.

Dec 26th 2011 at 7:34:35 PM •••

I prefer Ulquihime myself, and even then, I don't thrust it down anyone's throat. But hey; Ichigo and Orihime are Tite's secondary Author Ship. It's there, it's clear... Ichigo's just an idiot. I hope that, if any, Ichigo ends up with her; at least, if there's a huge party at the end of everything, she won't beg Walking Death Signs to dance. Likewise, Ichigo and Rukia is... cute, to say the least. Like Ulquiorra and Orihime, fans use it as an alternative. If you hate this person, you have THIS person! Yaaay! Pairings are just pairing at the end. If I say, "Ulquihime is adorable!", then I'm saying what I say. I don't curse Tite for not having it(although, to me, it's obvious what Tite's first Author Ship is) as a part of the story line. Likewise, if someone else says "Ichihime is the best!", then it's THEIR word. I won't bash them for liking it, and neither should any other sane fan. thiscanalsocounttosayingwhichversionisbettersubordubandpeoplebashingonthedubmorethanthesubbutthisisjustmebwhahaha

However, if I can say one thing as an Ulquihime fan... I hope Orihime has a good explanation on the offchance Batz and Grimmjow are recruited for, you know, that one apparently-existing scene in the recent filler arc. Just sayin'.

Apr 9th 2012 at 4:48:21 PM •••

Okay, I was the one who posted that and I apologise. I get that this is a little - okay a lot - late but I did send the person who replied an apology ages ago. I was reading the page and I got upset because all I could see was Ichi Hime fans bashing Ichi Ruki fans. So since I was wound up, both from that and the thread I found on FLOL (because believe it or not, I actually LIKE Ichi Hime as a pairing in fanworks) I posted something stupid without realising that it sounded really wanky. So I'm sorry. I'm not really in Bleach fandom that much anymore, although I do still follow the series, so I can pretty much see how immature my post was. So like I said, I apologise.

Nov 8th 2012 at 11:55:49 AM •••

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