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''Trouble'' is a story set in the Creator/MarvelComics universe, published in 2003 by their Creator/EpicComics imprint.

The five-issue series follows the adventures of brothers Ben and Richie, and best friends May and Mary. The four, along with numerous other youths, meet at a resort during summer work and hook up, Ben with May and Richie with Mary. However, their sexual misadventures end up taking more dramatic turns that change their lives forever when the negative effects of such a lifestyle begin to catch up to them.

What makes ''Trouble'' particularly infamous is that it was apparently meant to be a prequel to the Comicbook/SpiderMan universe; Ben and May are Peter Parker's uncle and aunt, and Richie and Mary are his parents. The premise and subsequent plot reveals about Spider-Man's family resulted in it being widely unaccepted and ignored by fans and creators alike.

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!!''Trouble'' provides examples of:

* AbusiveParents: When May's freaking out about her pregnancy, she fears for her and her mother suffering her father's wrath.
* AgeLift: In the main comic, Ben and May Parker are both about twenty years older than Richard and Mary. However, this comic portrays them all as being in the same age group. [[spoiler:This only occurs so that the infamous teen pregnancy twist can happen.]]
* AmbiguousTimePeriod: As PresentDayPast below explains, the series ''seems'' to take place in the late '70s, but it isn't clear. Anachronistic pop culture references aside, the ages of the characters doesn't help. The series was published in 2003, and if it was meant to take place in the late '70s, the birth of Peter Parker in this story would put him at his mid 20s or so. However, in the main Marvel universe by this time, Peter had married Mary-Jane, gone through secondary school, and was working as a high school teacher; even accounting for ComicBookTime, it seems more reasonable that Peter is at least in his late 20s and more likely somewhere in his 30s. To say nothing that if May was a teenager at this time, she'd be in her 40s in 2003, but she's typically depicted as much older.
* CanonDiscontinuity: [[http://web.archive.org/web/20061123003453/http://www.newsarama.com/000aaaTrouble.htm Marvel made vague comments]] that suggested it was stricken from canon or never in canon in the first place. Millar tried to make it canon to the ComicBook/UltimateMarvel universe via references to ComicBook/BuckyBarnes still being alive (as Ultimate Bucky became a writer post-WWII and it was written before ''ComicBook/CaptainAmericaWinterSoldier'' revealed that the classic Bucky was still alive as the titular Winter Soldier), but ultimately it got revealed as a comic in-universe in the ''Ultimate'' universe.
* DomesticAbuse: May, fearing her dad's reaction to pregnancy, fears he'll take his anger out on her or her mother.
* DrivenToSuicide: May at one point considers suicide over dealing with [[spoiler:becoming a teen mom]] with a devout fundamentalist father at home. Mary offers her a solution.
* FamilyRelationshipSwitcheroo: The infamous part of the story and the reason it's so reviled by both fans and creators -- [[spoiler:attempting to retcon that May was Peter's biological mother via an affair she and Richard engaged in, and Mary took the baby as her own to avoid May being in trouble with her fundamentalist father.]]
* {{Fanservice}}:
** At one point the four go swimming, with May skinny-dipping.
** Aside from the photo-covers (see above), the series also had "special" covers, which were [[https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/4/4b/Trouble_Vol_1_1_Variant.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20080602212232 blatantly this]].
* GoodAngelBadAngel: May has such a moment when [[spoiler:she considers aborting what'd become Peter Parker]].
* GrumpyOldMan: Mr. Shelby, the manager of the resort, seems to like being mean just to be mean to the kids and keep them from having fun as much as he can. At one point, even his wife calls him out on being such a killjoy.
* HormoneAddledTeenager: Pretty much every teenage character in the series is constantly looking to get laid. [[spoiler:A major reason Richie cheats on Mary with May is because Mary won't sleep with him.]]
* IdiotBall: May has a firm grasp on this when she has sex multiple times (and on at least one occasion without using protection) knowing, and even telling Ben about it, how easy the women in her family are to impregnate. [[spoiler:Despite this, she still acts shocked when she discovers she's pregnant.]] Admittedly, May's justification for all this is because she and Mary visited a fortune teller who said nobody would ever call May mom, thus May interprets that to mean she'll never get pregnant. [[ProphecyTwist However...]]
* InNameOnly: The interpretations of May, Ben, Mary and Richard do not resemble the canon versions of the characters in any way. And aside from the characters' names and a few vague references, the story itself has no larger connection to the Spider-Man mythos or the Marvel universe as a whole.
* KarmaHoudini: The jerkass hotel patron who belittles May by the poolside. When we think she retaliates against him, turns out it's just an ImagineSpot and she holds her tongue for the sake of keeping her job. Ben tries to fight him in a restroom, but ends up getting beaten up instead and we don't see the patron for the reminder of the story.
* LoopholeAbuse: See ProphecyTwist. The fortuneteller's predictions for May and Mary come true in a roundabout way.
* PresentDayPast: With no specific year pinned down, the series is awash in '60s and '70s pop culture references that don't all gel properly. Trying to line up the references to the Ford Mustang (1964), ''Scooby Doo'' (1969), Disney World (1971), and Reese's Pieces (1977), implies the comic takes place in the late '70s. However, one scene has Richie and Ben discussing the in-universe recent increase in comic prices to 12 cents, which was in the early '60s; by the '70s, the price was up to 15 cents.
* ProphecyTwist: A fortune teller foretold that Mary would be a mother before she was twenty, but no-one would ever call May "mom". Mary presumes this means she'll get pregnant as a young mother, while May thinks it means she'll never have children. [[spoiler:In actuality, May gets pregnant and Mary passes the baby off as hers; Mary becomes a mother without getting pregnant, and May has a child who, being raised by her future sister-in-law, will think May is his aunt.]]
* SparedByTheAdaptation: As mentioned under CanonDiscontinuity, this was written before ''ComicBook/CaptainAmericaWinterSoldier'' retconned that ComicBook/BuckyBarnes was still alive as the titular BrainwashedAndCrazy Winter Soldier, thus the Bucky of the mainstream Marvel Universe was canonically dead at the time.
* ShootTheShaggyDog: Even the most casual Spider-Man fan knows that [[spoiler:Richard and Mary will die in an plane crash two or three years after the comic's ending and he'll spend most of his life being raised by May and Ben.]]
* StealthSequel:
** Or prequel in this case, but as noted, it was advertised as a random romance comic, but the names of the main characters gives away that it was [[spoiler:an attempt to retcon the details of Franchise/SpiderMan's birth]].
** The final issue includes an appearance by an elderly Bucky Barnes, presented as a photographer, possibly making it part of the Ultimate Comics continuity.
* TeenPregnancy: Part of the reason it was hated: [[spoiler:trying to retcon that Peter Parker was the product of an affair Richard and May had as teens.]]
* WhamLine: If you don't know the story's ties to the ''Spider-Man'' mythos going in, the "face it, tiger" line will likely clue you in.
* WritersCannotDoMath: May Parker is a senior citizen in the main comic, and her ''Ultimate'' counterpart was middle-aged. [[spoiler:If May had gotten pregnant with Peter when she was a teenager, then she would barely be in her mid-thirties when he first became Spider-Man.]] A similar issue is with Richard and Mary. In the Marvel Universe, they were secret agents when they died. They died when Peter was a baby, so about two or three years after this comic. How could they be experienced secret agents if they were in their teens/early twenties?
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''Trouble'' is a story set in the Creator/MarvelComics universe, published in 2003 by their Creator/EpicComics imprint.

The five-issue series follows the adventures of brothers Ben and Richie, and best friends May and Mary. The four, along with numerous other youths, meet at a resort during summer work and hook up, Ben with May and Richie with Mary. However, their sexual misadventures end up taking more dramatic turns that change their lives forever when the negative effects of such a lifestyle begin to catch up to them.

What makes ''Trouble'' particularly infamous is that it was apparently meant to be a prequel to the Comicbook/SpiderMan universe; Ben and May are Peter Parker's uncle and aunt, and Richie and Mary are his parents. The premise and subsequent plot reveals about Spider-Man's family resulted in it being widely unaccepted and ignored by fans and creators alike.

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!!''Trouble'' provides examples of:

* AbusiveParents: When May's freaking out about her pregnancy, she fears for her and her mother suffering her father's wrath.
* AgeLift: In the main comic, Ben and May Parker are both about twenty years older than Richard and Mary. However, this comic portrays them all as being in the same age group. [[spoiler:This only occurs so that the infamous teen pregnancy twist can happen.]]
* AmbiguousTimePeriod: As PresentDayPast below explains, the series ''seems'' to take place in the late '70s, but it isn't clear. Anachronistic pop culture references aside, the ages of the characters doesn't help. The series was published in 2003, and if it was meant to take place in the late '70s, the birth of Peter Parker in this story would put him at his mid 20s or so. However, in the main Marvel universe by this time, Peter had married Mary-Jane, gone through secondary school, and was working as a high school teacher; even accounting for ComicBookTime, it seems more reasonable that Peter is at least in his late 20s and more likely somewhere in his 30s. To say nothing that if May was a teenager at this time, she'd be in her 40s in 2003, but she's typically depicted as much older.
* CanonDiscontinuity: [[http://web.archive.org/web/20061123003453/http://www.newsarama.com/000aaaTrouble.htm Marvel made vague comments]] that suggested it was stricken from canon or never in canon in the first place. Millar tried to make it canon to the ComicBook/UltimateMarvel universe via references to ComicBook/BuckyBarnes still being alive (as Ultimate Bucky became a writer post-WWII and it was written before ''ComicBook/CaptainAmericaWinterSoldier'' revealed that the classic Bucky was still alive as the titular Winter Soldier), but ultimately it got revealed as a comic in-universe in the ''Ultimate'' universe.
* DomesticAbuse: May, fearing her dad's reaction to pregnancy, fears he'll take his anger out on her or her mother.
* DrivenToSuicide: May at one point considers suicide over dealing with [[spoiler:becoming a teen mom]] with a devout fundamentalist father at home. Mary offers her a solution.
* FamilyRelationshipSwitcheroo: The infamous part of the story and the reason it's so reviled by both fans and creators -- [[spoiler:attempting to retcon that May was Peter's biological mother via an affair she and Richard engaged in, and Mary took the baby as her own to avoid May being in trouble with her fundamentalist father.]]
* {{Fanservice}}:
** At one point the four go swimming, with May skinny-dipping.
** Aside from the photo-covers (see above), the series also had "special" covers, which were [[https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/4/4b/Trouble_Vol_1_1_Variant.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20080602212232 blatantly this]].
* GoodAngelBadAngel: May has such a moment when [[spoiler:she considers aborting what'd become Peter Parker]].
* GrumpyOldMan: Mr. Shelby, the manager of the resort, seems to like being mean just to be mean to the kids and keep them from having fun as much as he can. At one point, even his wife calls him out on being such a killjoy.
* HormoneAddledTeenager: Pretty much every teenage character in the series is constantly looking to get laid. [[spoiler:A major reason Richie cheats on Mary with May is because Mary won't sleep with him.]]
* IdiotBall: May has a firm grasp on this when she has sex multiple times (and on at least one occasion without using protection) knowing, and even telling Ben about it, how easy the women in her family are to impregnate. [[spoiler:Despite this, she still acts shocked when she discovers she's pregnant.]] Admittedly, May's justification for all this is because she and Mary visited a fortune teller who said nobody would ever call May mom, thus May interprets that to mean she'll never get pregnant. [[ProphecyTwist However...]]
* InNameOnly: The interpretations of May, Ben, Mary and Richard do not resemble the canon versions of the characters in any way. And aside from the characters' names and a few vague references, the story itself has no larger connection to the Spider-Man mythos or the Marvel universe as a whole.
* KarmaHoudini: The jerkass hotel patron who belittles May by the poolside. When we think she retaliates against him, turns out it's just an ImagineSpot and she holds her tongue for the sake of keeping her job. Ben tries to fight him in a restroom, but ends up getting beaten up instead and we don't see the patron for the reminder of the story.
* LoopholeAbuse: See ProphecyTwist. The fortuneteller's predictions for May and Mary come true in a roundabout way.
* PresentDayPast: With no specific year pinned down, the series is awash in '60s and '70s pop culture references that don't all gel properly. Trying to line up the references to the Ford Mustang (1964), ''Scooby Doo'' (1969), Disney World (1971), and Reese's Pieces (1977), implies the comic takes place in the late '70s. However, one scene has Richie and Ben discussing the in-universe recent increase in comic prices to 12 cents, which was in the early '60s; by the '70s, the price was up to 15 cents.
* ProphecyTwist: A fortune teller foretold that Mary would be a mother before she was twenty, but no-one would ever call May "mom". Mary presumes this means she'll get pregnant as a young mother, while May thinks it means she'll never have children. [[spoiler:In actuality, May gets pregnant and Mary passes the baby off as hers; Mary becomes a mother without getting pregnant, and May has a child who, being raised by her future sister-in-law, will think May is his aunt.]]
* SparedByTheAdaptation: As mentioned under CanonDiscontinuity, this was written before ''ComicBook/CaptainAmericaWinterSoldier'' retconned that ComicBook/BuckyBarnes was still alive as the titular BrainwashedAndCrazy Winter Soldier, thus the Bucky of the mainstream Marvel Universe was canonically dead at the time.
* ShootTheShaggyDog: Even the most casual Spider-Man fan knows that [[spoiler:Richard and Mary will die in an plane crash two or three years after the comic's ending and he'll spend most of his life being raised by May and Ben.]]
* StealthSequel:
** Or prequel in this case, but as noted, it was advertised as a random romance comic, but the names of the main characters gives away that it was [[spoiler:an attempt to retcon the details of Franchise/SpiderMan's birth]].
** The final issue includes an appearance by an elderly Bucky Barnes, presented as a photographer, possibly making it part of the Ultimate Comics continuity.
* TeenPregnancy: Part of the reason it was hated: [[spoiler:trying to retcon that Peter Parker was the product of an affair Richard and May had as teens.]]
* WhamLine: If you don't know the story's ties to the ''Spider-Man'' mythos going in, the "face it, tiger" line will likely clue you in.
* WritersCannotDoMath: May Parker is a senior citizen in the main comic, and her ''Ultimate'' counterpart was middle-aged. [[spoiler:If May had gotten pregnant with Peter when she was a teenager, then she would barely be in her mid-thirties when he first became Spider-Man.]] A similar issue is with Richard and Mary. In the Marvel Universe, they were secret agents when they died. They died when Peter was a baby, so about two or three years after this comic. How could they be experienced secret agents if they were in their teens/early twenties?
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* StealthSequel: Or prequel in this case, but as noted, it was advertised as a random romance comic, but the names of the main characters gives away that it was [[spoiler:an attempt to retcon the details of Franchise/SpiderMan's birth]].

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Or prequel in this case, but as noted, it was advertised as a random romance comic, but the names of the main characters gives away that it was [[spoiler:an attempt to retcon the details of Franchise/SpiderMan's birth]].birth]].
** The final issue includes an appearance by an elderly Bucky Barnes, presented as a photographer, possibly making it part of the Ultimate Comics continuity.
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* AmbiguousTimePeriod: As AnachronismStew below explains, the series ''seems'' to take place in the late '70s, but it isn't clear. Anachronistic pop culture references aside, the ages of the characters doesn't help. The series was published in 2003, and if it was meant to take place in the late '70s, the birth of Peter Parker in this story would put him at his mid 20s or so. However, in the main Marvel universe by this time, Peter had married Mary-Jane, gone through secondary school, and was working as a high school teacher; even accounting for ComicBookTime, it seems more reasonable that Peter is at least in his late 20s and more likely somewhere in his 30s. To say nothing that if May was a teenager at this time, she'd be in her 40s in 2003, but she's typically depicted as much older.

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* AmbiguousTimePeriod: As AnachronismStew PresentDayPast below explains, the series ''seems'' to take place in the late '70s, but it isn't clear. Anachronistic pop culture references aside, the ages of the characters doesn't help. The series was published in 2003, and if it was meant to take place in the late '70s, the birth of Peter Parker in this story would put him at his mid 20s or so. However, in the main Marvel universe by this time, Peter had married Mary-Jane, gone through secondary school, and was working as a high school teacher; even accounting for ComicBookTime, it seems more reasonable that Peter is at least in his late 20s and more likely somewhere in his 30s. To say nothing that if May was a teenager at this time, she'd be in her 40s in 2003, but she's typically depicted as much older.

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* AnachronismStew: With no specific year pinned down, the series is awash in '60s and '70s pop culture references that don't all gel properly. Trying to line up the references to the Ford Mustang (1964), ''Scooby Doo'' (1969), Disney World (1971), and Reese's Pieces (1977), implies the comic takes place in the late '70s. However, one scene has Richie and Ben discussing the in-universe recent increase in comic prices to 12 cents, which was in the early '60s; by the '70s, the price was up to 15 cents.



* {{Fanservice}}: At one point the four go swimming, with May skinny dipping.

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At one point the four go swimming, with May skinny dipping.skinny-dipping.



* GoodAngelBadAngel: May has such a moment when [[spoiler:she considers aborting what'd become Peter Parker]].



* GoodAngelBadAngel: May has such a moment when [[spoiler:she considers aborting what'd become Peter Parker]].



* ProphecyTwist: A fortune teller foretold that Mary would be a mother before she was twenty, but no one would ever call May "mom." Mary presumes this means she'll get pregnant as a young mother, while May thinks it means she'll never have children. [[spoiler:In actuality, May gets pregnant and Mary passes the baby off as hers; Mary becomes a mother without getting pregnant, and May has a child who, being raised by her future sister-in-law, will think May is his aunt.]]

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* PresentDayPast: With no specific year pinned down, the series is awash in '60s and '70s pop culture references that don't all gel properly. Trying to line up the references to the Ford Mustang (1964), ''Scooby Doo'' (1969), Disney World (1971), and Reese's Pieces (1977), implies the comic takes place in the late '70s. However, one scene has Richie and Ben discussing the in-universe recent increase in comic prices to 12 cents, which was in the early '60s; by the '70s, the price was up to 15 cents.
* ProphecyTwist: A fortune teller foretold that Mary would be a mother before she was twenty, but no one no-one would ever call May "mom." "mom". Mary presumes this means she'll get pregnant as a young mother, while May thinks it means she'll never have children. [[spoiler:In actuality, May gets pregnant and Mary passes the baby off as hers; Mary becomes a mother without getting pregnant, and May has a child who, being raised by her future sister-in-law, will think May is his aunt.]]
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* IdiotBall: May has a firm grasp on this when she has sex multiple times (and on at least one occasion without using protection) knowing, and even telling Ben about it, how easy the women in her family are to impregnate. [[spoiler:Despite this, she still acts shocked when she discovers she's pregnant.]]Admitadly May's justification for all this is because she and Mary visited a fortune teller who said nobody would ever call May mom thus May interprets that to mean she'll never get pregnant. [[ProphecyTwist However...]]

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* IdiotBall: May has a firm grasp on this when she has sex multiple times (and on at least one occasion without using protection) knowing, and even telling Ben about it, how easy the women in her family are to impregnate. [[spoiler:Despite this, she still acts shocked when she discovers she's pregnant.]]Admitadly ]] Admittedly, May's justification for all this is because she and Mary visited a fortune teller who said nobody would ever call May mom mom, thus May interprets that to mean she'll never get pregnant. [[ProphecyTwist However...]]
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* YourCheatingHeart: With Mary refusing to sleep with Richard, he [[spoiler:cheats on her with May while comforting her from being bullied.]]
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* IdiotBall: May has a firm grasp on this when she has sex multiple times (and on at least one occasion without using protection) knowing, and even telling Ben about it, how easy the women in her family are to impregnate. [[spoiler:Despite this, she still acts shocked when she discovers she's pregnant.]]

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* IdiotBall: May has a firm grasp on this when she has sex multiple times (and on at least one occasion without using protection) knowing, and even telling Ben about it, how easy the women in her family are to impregnate. [[spoiler:Despite this, she still acts shocked when she discovers she's pregnant.]]Admitadly May's justification for all this is because she and Mary visited a fortune teller who said nobody would ever call May mom thus May interprets that to mean she'll never get pregnant. [[ProphecyTwist However...]]
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* SparedByTheAdaptation: As mentioned under "Canon Discontinuity", this was written before ''ComicBook/CaptainAmericaWinterSoldier'' retconned by ComicBook/BuckyBarnes was still alive as the titular BrainiwashedAndCrazy Winter Soldier, thus the Bucky of the mainstream Marvel Universe was canonically dead at the time.

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* SparedByTheAdaptation: As mentioned under "Canon Discontinuity", CanonDiscontinuity, this was written before ''ComicBook/CaptainAmericaWinterSoldier'' retconned by that ComicBook/BuckyBarnes was still alive as the titular BrainiwashedAndCrazy BrainwashedAndCrazy Winter Soldier, thus the Bucky of the mainstream Marvel Universe was canonically dead at the time.



* WritersCannotDoMath: May Parker is a senior citizen in the main comic, and her ''Ultimate'' counterpart was middle-aged. [[spoiler:If May had gotten pregnant with Peter when she was a teenager, then she would barely be in her mid-thirties when he first became Spider-Man.]] A similar issue is with Richard and Mary. In the Marvel universe, they were secret agents when they died. They died when Peter was a baby, so about two or three years after this comic. How could they be experienced secret agents if they were in their teens/early twenties?

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* WritersCannotDoMath: May Parker is a senior citizen in the main comic, and her ''Ultimate'' counterpart was middle-aged. [[spoiler:If May had gotten pregnant with Peter when she was a teenager, then she would barely be in her mid-thirties when he first became Spider-Man.]] A similar issue is with Richard and Mary. In the Marvel universe, Universe, they were secret agents when they died. They died when Peter was a baby, so about two or three years after this comic. How could they be experienced secret agents if they were in their teens/early twenties?
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* SparedByTheAdaptation: As mentioned under "Canon Discontinuity", this was written before ''ComicBook/CaptainAmericaWinterSoldier'' retconned by ComicBook/BuckyBarnes was still alive as the titular BrainiwashedAndCrazy Winter Soldier, thus the Bucky of the mainstream Marvel Universe was canonically dead at the time.

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* WritersCannotDoMath: May Parker is a senior citizen in the main comic, and her ''Ultimate'' counterpart was middle-aged. [[spoiler:If May had gotten pregnant with Peter when she was a teenager, then she would barely be in her mid-thirties when he first became Spider-Man.]]
** A similar issue is with Richard and Mary. In the Marvel universe, they were secret agents when they died. They died when Peter was a baby, so about two or three years after this comic. How could they be experienced secret agents if they were in their teens/early twenties?

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* WritersCannotDoMath: May Parker is a senior citizen in the main comic, and her ''Ultimate'' counterpart was middle-aged. [[spoiler:If May had gotten pregnant with Peter when she was a teenager, then she would barely be in her mid-thirties when he first became Spider-Man.]]
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]] A similar issue is with Richard and Mary. In the Marvel universe, they were secret agents when they died. They died when Peter was a baby, so about two or three years after this comic. How could they be experienced secret agents if they were in their teens/early twenties?
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* IdiotBall: May has a firm grasp on this when she has sex multiple times (and on at least one occasion without using protection) knowing, and even telling Ben about it, how easy the women in her family are easy to impregnate. [[spoiler:Despite this, she still acts shocked when she discovers she's pregnant.]]

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* IdiotBall: May has a firm grasp on this when she has sex multiple times (and on at least one occasion without using protection) knowing, and even telling Ben about it, how easy the women in her family are easy to impregnate. [[spoiler:Despite this, she still acts shocked when she discovers she's pregnant.]]
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* CanonDiscontinuity: [[http://web.archive.org/web/20061123003453/http://www.newsarama.com/000aaaTrouble.htm Marvel made vague comments]] that suggested it was stricken from canon or never in canon in the first place. Millar tried to make it canon to the ComicBook/UltimateMarvel universe via references to ComicBook/BuckyBarnes still being alive (as Ultimate!Bucky became a writer post-WWII and it was written before ''ComicBook/CaptainAmericaWinterSoldier'' revealed that 616!Bucky was still alive as the titular Winter Soldier), but ultimately it got revealed as a comic in-universe in the ''Ultimate'' universe.

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* CanonDiscontinuity: [[http://web.archive.org/web/20061123003453/http://www.newsarama.com/000aaaTrouble.htm Marvel made vague comments]] that suggested it was stricken from canon or never in canon in the first place. Millar tried to make it canon to the ComicBook/UltimateMarvel universe via references to ComicBook/BuckyBarnes still being alive (as Ultimate!Bucky Ultimate Bucky became a writer post-WWII and it was written before ''ComicBook/CaptainAmericaWinterSoldier'' revealed that 616!Bucky the classic Bucky was still alive as the titular Winter Soldier), but ultimately it got revealed as a comic in-universe in the ''Ultimate'' universe.
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* KarmaHoudini: The jerkass hotel patron who belittles May by the poolside. When we think she retaliates against him, turns out it's just an ImagineSpot. Ben tries to fight him in a restroom, but ends up getting beaten up instead and we don't see the patron for the reminder of the story.

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* KarmaHoudini: The jerkass hotel patron who belittles May by the poolside. When we think she retaliates against him, turns out it's just an ImagineSpot.ImagineSpot and she holds her tongue for the sake of keeping her job. Ben tries to fight him in a restroom, but ends up getting beaten up instead and we don't see the patron for the reminder of the story.
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* KarmaHoudini: The jerkass hotel patron who belittles May by the poolside. When we think she retaliates against him, turns out it's just an ImagineSpot. Ben tries to fight him in a restroom, but ends up getting beaten up instead and we don't see the patron for the reminder of the story.
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* IdiotBall: May has a firm grasp on this when she has sex multiple times (and on at least one occasion without using protection) knowing, and even telling Ben about it, how easy the women in her family are easy to impregnate. [[spoiler:Despite this, she still acts shocked when she discovers she's pregnant.]]
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* AmbiguousTimePeriod: As AnachronismStew below explains, the series ''seems'' to take place in the late 70s, but it isn't clear. Anachronistic pop culture references aside, the ages of the characters doesn't help. The series was published in 2003, and if it was meant to take place in the late 70s, the birth of Peter Parker in this story would put him at his mid 20s or so. However, in the main Marvel universe by this time, Peter had married Mary-Jane, gone through secondary school, and was working as a high school teacher; even accounting for ComicBookTime, it seems more reasonable that Peter is at least in his late 20s and more likely somewhere in his 30s. To say nothing that if May was a teenager at this time, she'd be in her 40s in 2003, but she's typically depicted as much older.
* AnachronismStew: With no specific year pinned down, the series is awash in '60s and '70s pop culture references that don't all gel properly. Trying to line up the references to the Ford Mustang (1964), ''Scooby Doo'' (1969), Disney World (1971), and Reese's Pieces (1977), implies the comic takes place in the late '70s. However, one scene has Richie and Ben discussing the in-universe recent increase in comic prices to 12 cents, which was in the early '60s; by the '70s, the price was up to 15 cents.

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* AmbiguousTimePeriod: As AnachronismStew below explains, the series ''seems'' to take place in the late 70s, '70s, but it isn't clear. Anachronistic pop culture references aside, the ages of the characters doesn't help. The series was published in 2003, and if it was meant to take place in the late 70s, '70s, the birth of Peter Parker in this story would put him at his mid 20s or so. However, in the main Marvel universe by this time, Peter had married Mary-Jane, gone through secondary school, and was working as a high school teacher; even accounting for ComicBookTime, it seems more reasonable that Peter is at least in his late 20s and more likely somewhere in his 30s. To say nothing that if May was a teenager at this time, she'd be in her 40s in 2003, but she's typically depicted as much older.
* AnachronismStew: With no specific year pinned down, the series is awash in '60s and '70s pop culture references that don't all gel properly. Trying to line up the references to the Ford Mustang (1964), ''Scooby Doo'' (1969), Disney World (1971), and Reese's Pieces (1977), implies the comic takes place in the late '70s. However, one scene has Richie and Ben discussing the in-universe recent increase in comic prices to 12 cents, which was in the early '60s; by the '70s, the price was up to 15 cents.



* DomesticAbuse: May, fearing her dad's reaction to pregnancy, fears he's take his anger out on her or her mother.

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* DomesticAbuse: May, fearing her dad's reaction to pregnancy, fears he's he'll take his anger out on her or her mother.



* GoodAngelBadAngel: May has such a moment when [[spoiler:she considers aborting what'd become Peter Parker.]]

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* GoodAngelBadAngel: May has such a moment when [[spoiler:she considers aborting what'd become Peter Parker.]]Parker]].
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* AnachronismStew: With no specific year pinned down, the series is awash in '60s and '70s pop culture references, some of which don't line up with each other. Trying to line up the references to the Ford Mustang (1964), ''Scooby Doo'' (1969), Disney World (1971), and Reese's Pieces (1977), implies the comic takes place in the late '70s. However, one scene has Richie and Ben discussing the in-universe recent increase in comic prices to 12 cents, which was in the early '60s; by the '70s, the price was up to 15 cents.

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* AnachronismStew: With no specific year pinned down, the series is awash in '60s and '70s pop culture references, some of which references that don't line up with each other.all gel properly. Trying to line up the references to the Ford Mustang (1964), ''Scooby Doo'' (1969), Disney World (1971), and Reese's Pieces (1977), implies the comic takes place in the late '70s. However, one scene has Richie and Ben discussing the in-universe recent increase in comic prices to 12 cents, which was in the early '60s; by the '70s, the price was up to 15 cents.
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* AmbiguousTimePeriod: As AnachronismStew below explains, the series ''seems'' to take place in the late 70s, but it isn't clear. Anachronistic pop culture references aside, the ages of the characters doesn't help. The series was published in 2003, and if it was meant to take place in the late 70s, the bird of Peter Parker in this story would put him at his mid 20s or so. However, in the main Marvel universe by this time, Peter had married Mary-Jane, gone through secondary school, and was working as a high school teacher; even accounting for ComicBookTime, it seems more reasonable that Peter is at least in his late 20s and more likely somewhere in his 30s. To say nothing that if May was a teenager at this time, she'd be in her 40s in 2003, but she's typically depicted as much older.

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* AmbiguousTimePeriod: As AnachronismStew below explains, the series ''seems'' to take place in the late 70s, but it isn't clear. Anachronistic pop culture references aside, the ages of the characters doesn't help. The series was published in 2003, and if it was meant to take place in the late 70s, the bird birth of Peter Parker in this story would put him at his mid 20s or so. However, in the main Marvel universe by this time, Peter had married Mary-Jane, gone through secondary school, and was working as a high school teacher; even accounting for ComicBookTime, it seems more reasonable that Peter is at least in his late 20s and more likely somewhere in his 30s. To say nothing that if May was a teenager at this time, she'd be in her 40s in 2003, but she's typically depicted as much older.
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* DomesticAbuse: May, fearing her dad's reaction to pregnancy, fears he's take his anger out on her or her mother.
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* AbusiveParents: When May's freaking out about her pregnancy, she fears for her and her mother suffering her father's wrath.


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* GoodAngelBadAngel: May has such a moment when [[spoiler:she considers aborting what'd become Peter Parker.]]

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* AnachronismStew: With no specific year pinned down, the series is awash in '60s and '70s pop culture references, some of which don't line up with each other. Trying to line up the references to the Ford Mustang (1964), ''Scooby Doo'' (1969), Disney World (1971), and Reese's Pieces (1977), implies the comic takes place in the late '70s. However, one scene has Richie and Ben discussing the in-universe recent increase in comic prices to 12 cents, which was in the early '60s; by the '70s, the price was up to 15 cents. The birth of Peter Parker makes it even harder to pin down the date. The series was published in 2003, and if it was meant to take place in the late 70s, that would put Peter in his mid 20s or so. However, in the main Marvel universe by this time, Peter had married Mary-Jane, gone through secondary school, and was working as a high school teacher; even accounting for ComicBookTime, it seems more reason that Peter is at least in his late 20s and more likely somewhere in his 30s.

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* AmbiguousTimePeriod: As AnachronismStew below explains, the series ''seems'' to take place in the late 70s, but it isn't clear. Anachronistic pop culture references aside, the ages of the characters doesn't help. The series was published in 2003, and if it was meant to take place in the late 70s, the bird of Peter Parker in this story would put him at his mid 20s or so. However, in the main Marvel universe by this time, Peter had married Mary-Jane, gone through secondary school, and was working as a high school teacher; even accounting for ComicBookTime, it seems more reasonable that Peter is at least in his late 20s and more likely somewhere in his 30s. To say nothing that if May was a teenager at this time, she'd be in her 40s in 2003, but she's typically depicted as much older.
* AnachronismStew: With no specific year pinned down, the series is awash in '60s and '70s pop culture references, some of which don't line up with each other. Trying to line up the references to the Ford Mustang (1964), ''Scooby Doo'' (1969), Disney World (1971), and Reese's Pieces (1977), implies the comic takes place in the late '70s. However, one scene has Richie and Ben discussing the in-universe recent increase in comic prices to 12 cents, which was in the early '60s; by the '70s, the price was up to 15 cents. The birth of Peter Parker makes it even harder to pin down the date. The series was published in 2003, and if it was meant to take place in the late 70s, that would put Peter in his mid 20s or so. However, in the main Marvel universe by this time, Peter had married Mary-Jane, gone through secondary school, and was working as a high school teacher; even accounting for ComicBookTime, it seems more reason that Peter is at least in his late 20s and more likely somewhere in his 30s.

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