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* NotSoDifferent: [[spoiler: The Joker's Daughter's entire motivation regarding Jason. She sees the both of them as the forsaken children of the Joker, and how they both endeavour to continue their "father's" work for him by taking up his faces: Red Hood for Jason and the Joker's literal face for Duela. Jason is evidently not happy with the comparison, and realizing how thin the line between them really is is what pushes Jason over the DespairEventHorizon]].

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* NotSoDifferent: NotSoDifferentRemark: [[spoiler: The Joker's Daughter's entire motivation regarding Jason. She sees the both of them as the forsaken children of the Joker, and how they both endeavour to continue their "father's" work for him by taking up his faces: Red Hood for Jason and the Joker's literal face for Duela. Jason is evidently not happy with the comparison, and realizing how thin the line between them really is is what pushes Jason over the DespairEventHorizon]].

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* HomoeroticSubtext: This series carries the HoYay between Jason and Roy from the first run of ''Red Hood and the Outlaws'', except this series takes it UpToEleven. It starts with the title being a slash-pairing name, with several gags dedicated to depicting Jason and Roy LikeAnOldMarriedCouple. [[spoiler: The final issue is even headlined with "The Bromance Ends Here!", with the final presentation day page dedicated to the actual break-up, which can be read with very romantic undertones considering the way it's drawn]].



* NotSoDifferent: [[spoiler: The Joker's Daughter's entire motivation regarding Jason. She sees the both of them as the forsaken children of the Joker, and how they both endeavour to continue their "father's" work for him by taking up his faces: Red Hood for Jason, and the Joker's literal face for Duela. Jason is evidently not happy with the comparison, and realizing how thin the line between them really is is what pushes Jason over the DespairEventHorizon]].
* OnPatrolMontage: A variant of this in which Jason and Roy adventures through France are depicted as a tabletop game is used in issue 2.
* PunchClockHero: Roy's idea of going legit is making them "Vigilantes-For-Hire". To this end he has set up "Rent-A-Bat", a business venture that allows anyone to hire them for the right price. Suffice to say, Jason is less than thrilled by the idea.

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* NotSoDifferent: [[spoiler: The Joker's Daughter's entire motivation regarding Jason. She sees the both of them as the forsaken children of the Joker, and how they both endeavour to continue their "father's" work for him by taking up his faces: Red Hood for Jason, Jason and the Joker's literal face for Duela. Jason is evidently not happy with the comparison, and realizing how thin the line between them really is is what pushes Jason over the DespairEventHorizon]].
* OnPatrolMontage: A variant of this in which Jason and Roy Roy's adventures through France are depicted as a tabletop game is used in issue 2.
* PunchClockHero: Roy's idea of going legit is making them "Vigilantes-For-Hire". To this end end, he has set up "Rent-A-Bat", a business venture that allows anyone to hire them for the right price. Suffice to say, Jason is less than thrilled by the idea.
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Following the events of ''ComicBook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws'', [[ComicBook/GreenArrow Arsenal]] (Roy Harper) is on his own, trying to help people whether they want his help or not. After a trade between a Mexican cartel and a Washington power broker goes wrong despite Arsenal's best efforts, he's reunited with his fellow Outlaw [[AntiHero Red Hood]] (Jason Todd) and together they successfully defuse the situation. The power broker then offers them a job and while they decline the offer, Roy later convinces Jason of going legit as [[PunchClockHero Vigilantes-for-Hire]]

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Following the events of ''ComicBook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws'', [[ComicBook/GreenArrow Arsenal]] (Roy Harper) is on his own, trying to help people whether they want his help or not. After a trade between a Mexican cartel and a Washington power broker goes wrong despite Arsenal's best efforts, he's reunited with his fellow Outlaw [[AntiHero [[ComicBook/RedHood Red Hood]] Hood (Jason Todd) Todd)]] and together they successfully defuse the situation. The power broker then offers them a job and while they decline the offer, Roy later convinces Jason of going legit as [[PunchClockHero Vigilantes-for-Hire]]
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* BitterSweetEnding: [[spoiler: Joker's Daughter is beaten and the Iron Rule is dissolved but Jason's trust on people has been left in shambles and he decides to part ways from Roy to avoid dragging him into his own darkness]]

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* BitterSweetEnding: [[spoiler: Joker's Daughter is beaten and the Iron Rule is dissolved but Jason's trust on in people has been left in shambles and he decides to part ways from Roy to avoid dragging him into his own darkness]]
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Following the events of ''ComicBook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws'', [[ComicBook/GreenArrow Arsenal]] (Roy Harper) is on his own, trying to help people whether they want his help or not. After a trade between a Mexican cartel and a Washington power broker goes wrong despite Arsenal's best efforts, he's reunited with his fellow Outlaw [[AntiHero Red Hood]] (Jason Todd) and together they successfully defuse the situation. The Power broker then offers them a job and while they decline the offer, Roy later convinces Jason of going legit as [[PunchClockHero Vigilantes-for-Hire]]

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Following the events of ''ComicBook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws'', [[ComicBook/GreenArrow Arsenal]] (Roy Harper) is on his own, trying to help people whether they want his help or not. After a trade between a Mexican cartel and a Washington power broker goes wrong despite Arsenal's best efforts, he's reunited with his fellow Outlaw [[AntiHero Red Hood]] (Jason Todd) and together they successfully defuse the situation. The Power power broker then offers them a job and while they decline the offer, Roy later convinces Jason of going legit as [[PunchClockHero Vigilantes-for-Hire]]
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* UnexpectedCharacter: NO ONE saw coming [[spoiler: Joker's Daughter joining the boys]]
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* WouldntHitAGirl: An ''unconscious'' girl, as Jason finds it hits too close to home. Roy takes advantage of this in the final issue.
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* WouldntHitAGirl: An ''unconscious'' girl, as Jason finds it hits too close to home. Roy takes advantage of this in the final issue.
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* JerkWithAHeartOfJerk: Joker's Daughter undergoes a HeelFaceTurn and genuinely wants to be a better, healthier person who will help the boys do good. [[spoiler:But then it's revealed that she's affiliated with the Iron Rule, and she has them subject Roy to a MurderDotCom poll while she tries to seduce Jason to the Dark Side, seeing him as her "Brother."]]
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* TheAlcoholic: Arsenal is a recovering one. At the start of the series he's in a vulnerable place after his break up with Kori and is worried about having a relapse. Is only after having a pep talk with his sponsor Waylon Jones (AKA Killer Croc) that he recovers his confidence.
* Main/PragmaticHero: Continuing the development started on ''ComicBook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws'' Red Hood no longer enjoys killing people, and tries to avoid it when possible.[[spoiler: This comes to a turning point when Joker's Daughter joins them, prompting Jason to swear off killing for good.]] However, when it's revealed [[spoiler: that Joker's Daughter joined them in order to orchestrate Roy's very public execution to spite Jason, he relapses. He kills four of the Iron Rule and nearly kills its fifth and final member, had Roy not intervened.]]
* AwLookTheyReallyDoLoveEachOther: Despite all the bickering and snark, Jason and Roy are inseparable and they would glady gave their lives for the other if it were necessary. [[spoiler: [[{{Tearjerker}} Which makes their break-up all the more painful to see]]]].

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* TheAlcoholic: Arsenal is a recovering one. At the start of the series he's in a vulnerable place after his break up with Kori and is worried about having a relapse. Is It's only after having a pep talk with his sponsor Waylon Jones (AKA Killer Croc) that he recovers his confidence.
* Main/PragmaticHero: Continuing the development started on ''ComicBook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws'' Red Hood no longer enjoys killing people, and tries to avoid it when possible.[[spoiler: This comes to a turning point when Joker's Daughter joins them, prompting Jason to swear off killing for good.]] However, when it's revealed [[spoiler: that Joker's Daughter joined them in order to orchestrate Roy's very public execution to spite Jason, he relapses. He kills four of the Iron Rule and nearly kills its fifth and final member, had but Roy not intervened.intervenes.]]
* AwLookTheyReallyDoLoveEachOther: Despite all the bickering and snark, Jason and Roy are inseparable and they would glady gladly gave their lives for the other if it were necessary. [[spoiler: [[{{Tearjerker}} Which makes their break-up all the more painful to see]]]].



* BatmanGambit: [[spoiler: Ironically used by ''Joker's Daughter'' to get close to the boys and destroy them from the inside]]

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* BatmanGambit: [[spoiler: Ironically used by ''Joker's Daughter'' to get close to the boys and destroy them from the inside]]inside.]]



* BadassNormal: Red Hood and Arsenal. [[spoiler: And of issue six, Joker's Daughter]]

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* BadassNormal: Red Hood and Arsenal. [[spoiler: And as of issue six, Joker's Daughter]]Daughter.]]



* BreakHisHeartToSaveHim: [[spoiler: Jason's faith is broken ''hard'' when he finds out a whopping 233, 000+ viewers voted to kill Roy (compared to the measely 52 who voted against his death). Combined with Duella's duplicity, he's convinced that there's no bright side for him. As much as Roy would hate him for it, Jason walks away so that his best friend may be a better hero than he would be had Jason stayed]].

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* BreakHisHeartToSaveHim: [[spoiler: Jason's faith is broken ''hard'' when he finds out a whopping 233, 000+ 233,000+ viewers voted to kill Roy (compared to the measely measly 52 who voted against his death). Combined with Duella's Duela's duplicity, he's convinced that there's no bright side for him. As much as Roy would hate him for it, Jason walks away so that his best friend may be a better hero than he would be had Jason stayed]].



* ContinuityNod: Issue #2, Roy mentions all the enemies they faced together in ''ComicBook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws''

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* ContinuityNod: Issue In issue #2, Roy mentions all the enemies they faced together in ''ComicBook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws''''ComicBook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws''.



* DeathSeeker: [[spoiler: Is implied this is the reason Joker's Daughter looked for the boys. However this turned out to be a ploy to get on Jason's good side.]]

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* DeathSeeker: [[spoiler: Is It's implied this is the reason Joker's Daughter looked for the boys. However this turned out to be a ploy to get on Jason's good side.]]



** [[spoiler: Joker's Daughter helps the boys take down the Hero Manifiesto]]

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** [[spoiler: Joker's Daughter helps the boys take down the Hero Manifiesto]]Manifesto]]



* InTheHood: Jason briefly traded his leather jacket for a hoddied Vest at the start of the series.

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* InTheHood: Jason briefly traded his leather jacket for a hoddied Vest hooded vest at the start of the series.



* MadeOfEvil: Underbelly is all the insanity and evil impulses from Arkham inmated given physical form.

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* MadeOfEvil: Underbelly is all the insanity and evil impulses from Arkham inmated inmates given physical form.



* NotSoDifferent: [[spoiler: The Joker's Daughter's entire motivation regarding Jason. She sees the both of them as the forsaken children of the Joker, and how they both endeavour to continue their "father's" work for him by taking up his faces: Red Hood for Jason, and the Joker's literal face for Duella. Jason is evidently not happy with the comparison, and realizing how thin the line between them really is is what pushes Jason over the DespairEventHorizon]].

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* NotSoDifferent: [[spoiler: The Joker's Daughter's entire motivation regarding Jason. She sees the both of them as the forsaken children of the Joker, and how they both endeavour to continue their "father's" work for him by taking up his faces: Red Hood for Jason, and the Joker's literal face for Duella.Duela. Jason is evidently not happy with the comparison, and realizing how thin the line between them really is is what pushes Jason over the DespairEventHorizon]].



* PunchClockHero: Roy's idea of going legit is making them "Vigilantes-For-Hire". To this end he has set "Rent-A-Bat" a business venture that allows anyone to hire them for the right price. Suffice to say, Jason is less than thrilled by the idea.

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* PunchClockHero: Roy's idea of going legit is making them "Vigilantes-For-Hire". To this end he has set "Rent-A-Bat" up "Rent-A-Bat", a business venture that allows anyone to hire them for the right price. Suffice to say, Jason is less than thrilled by the idea.



* RealityWarper: Sera Fina is able to manipulate pockets of reality in her inmediate vicinity. She uses this power to resurrect villians previously defeated by the boys.

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* RealityWarper: Sera Fina is able to manipulate pockets of reality in her inmediate immediate vicinity. She uses this power to resurrect villians villains previously defeated by the boys.
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* RedHeadedHero: Arsenal is a natural redhead.
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* TrickArrow: Roy has Bomb Arrows, Riot Control Arrows, Electric Arrows, Darkness inducing Arrows and even Arrows able to project a Bullet Proof shield on his quiver. [[BeyondTheImpossible He also somehow builds arrows able to defuse ''nuclear energy'' in the case a Nuclear Plant were at risk of a meltdown]]. Jason even [[LampshadeHanging lampshades]] how absurd this is.

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* TrickArrow: Roy has Bomb Arrows, Riot Control Arrows, Electric Arrows, Darkness inducing Arrows and even Arrows able to project a Bullet Proof shield on his quiver. [[BeyondTheImpossible [[SerialEscalation He also somehow builds arrows able to defuse ''nuclear energy'' in the case a Nuclear Plant were at risk of a meltdown]]. Jason even [[LampshadeHanging lampshades]] how absurd this is.

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Following the events of ''ComicBook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws'', [[ComicBook/GreenArrow Arsenal]] (Roy Harper) is on his own, trying to help people whether they want his help or not.
After a trade between a Mexican cartel and a Washington power broker goes wrong despite Arsenal's best efforts, he's reunited with his fellow Outlaw [[AntiHero Red Hood]] (Jason Todd). Together they successfully defuse the situation. The Power broker offers them a job and while they decline the offer, Roy later convinces Jason of going legit as [[PunchClockHero Vigilantes-for-Hire]]

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Following the events of ''ComicBook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws'', [[ComicBook/GreenArrow Arsenal]] (Roy Harper) is on his own, trying to help people whether they want his help or not. \n After a trade between a Mexican cartel and a Washington power broker goes wrong despite Arsenal's best efforts, he's reunited with his fellow Outlaw [[AntiHero Red Hood]] (Jason Todd). Together Todd) and together they successfully defuse the situation. The Power broker then offers them a job and while they decline the offer, Roy later convinces Jason of going legit as [[PunchClockHero Vigilantes-for-Hire]]
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* WouldntHitAGirl: An ''unconscious'' girl, as Jason finds it hits too close to home. Roy takes advantage of this in the final issue.
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* ReactionShot: [[spoiler: Some livestream viewers are all given a reaction shot to Everest's death, whose molecular structure was dissolved by arrows designed to defuse ''nuclear power plants'']].
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* {{Squick}}: The final issue dedicates a sequence of [[ReactionShot reaction shots]] to [[spoiler: Everest's death by Anti-Nuclear Energy Arrow. Which involves his entire body dissolving as the arrow breaks down his molecules. Ick]].

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* BreakHisHeartToSaveHim: [[spoiler: Jason faith is broken ''hard'' when he finds out a whopping 233, 000+ viewers voted to kill Roy. Combined with Duella's duplicity, he's convinced that there's no bright side for him. As much as Roy would hate him for it, Jason walks away so that his best friend may be a better hero than he would be had Jason stayed]].

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* BreakHisHeartToSaveHim: [[spoiler: Jason Jason's faith is broken ''hard'' when he finds out a whopping 233, 000+ viewers voted to kill Roy.Roy (compared to the measely 52 who voted against his death). Combined with Duella's duplicity, he's convinced that there's no bright side for him. As much as Roy would hate him for it, Jason walks away so that his best friend may be a better hero than he would be had Jason stayed]].



* CrazyPrepared: Played with, Roy claims to have weapons ready for any kind of situation but he's so focused on seeing the big picture that he overlooks the most basic stuff like money management.

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* CrazyPrepared: Played with, with. Roy claims to have weapons ready for any kind of situation but he's so focused on seeing the big picture that he overlooks the most basic stuff like money management.management. However, his inventions ''do'' come in handy on several occasions, especially towards the end of the series.



** [[spoiler: Joker's Daughter help the boys to take down the Hero Manifiesto]]

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** [[spoiler: Joker's Daughter help helps the boys to take down the Hero Manifiesto]]



* NotSoDifferent: [[spoiler: The Joker's Daughter's entire motivation regarding Jason. She's the both of them as the forsaken children of the Joker, and how they both endeavour to continue their "father's" work for him by taking up his faces: Red Hood for Jason, and the Joker's literal face for Duella. Jason is evidently not happy with the comparison, and realizing how thin the line between them really is is what pushes Jason over the DespairEventHorizon]].

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* MythologyGag: [[ArcNumber 52]] shows up again, this time as [[spoiler: the number of people voting against Roy's execution during a livestream]].
* NoKillLikeOverkill: How Jason deals with the Iron Rule. [[spoiler: Roy specifically states that the arrows Jason used were meant only for nuclear plants that needed to be shut down, ''not'' people. While the Iron Rule ''are'' walking nuclear weapons, they are also still human and are shown responding to the arrows with pain and fear]].
* NotSoDifferent: [[spoiler: The Joker's Daughter's entire motivation regarding Jason. She's She sees the both of them as the forsaken children of the Joker, and how they both endeavour to continue their "father's" work for him by taking up his faces: Red Hood for Jason, and the Joker's literal face for Duella. Jason is evidently not happy with the comparison, and realizing how thin the line between them really is is what pushes Jason over the DespairEventHorizon]].



-->'''Jason Todd''' "Now You want to start charging everyday people on the street for our help?"

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-->'''Jason Todd''' Todd:''' "Now You want to start charging everyday people on the street for our help?"



* {{Squick}}: The final issue dedicates a sequence of ReactionShots to [[spoiler: Everest's death by Anti-Nuclear Energy Arrow. Which involves his entire body dissolving as the arrow breaks down his molecules. Ick]].

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* {{Squick}}: The final issue dedicates a sequence of ReactionShots [[ReactionShot reaction shots]] to [[spoiler: Everest's death by Anti-Nuclear Energy Arrow. Which involves his entire body dissolving as the arrow breaks down his molecules. Ick]].



* TrickArrow: Roy has Bomb Arrows, Riot Control Arrows, Electric Arrows, Darkness inducing Arrows and even Arrows able to project a Bullet Proof shield on his quiver.
** BeyondTheImpossible: Roy somehow builds arrows able to defuse ''nuclear energy'' in the case a Nuclear Plant were at risk of a meltdown. Jason even [[LampshadeHanging lampshades]] how absurd this is.

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* TrickArrow: Roy has Bomb Arrows, Riot Control Arrows, Electric Arrows, Darkness inducing Arrows and even Arrows able to project a Bullet Proof shield on his quiver.
** BeyondTheImpossible: Roy
quiver. [[BeyondTheImpossible He also somehow builds arrows able to defuse ''nuclear energy'' in the case a Nuclear Plant were at risk of a meltdown.meltdown]]. Jason even [[LampshadeHanging lampshades]] how absurd this is.

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* ArtShift: #13 shifts art styles halfway through, as the main story wraps early. [[spoiler: The remainder depicts Roy and Jason's 'first' meeting, which combined with the newspaper-coloured margin and classic era style suggests that the entire sequence is less flashback and more tragic ideallic fantasy]].



* DespairEventHorizon: Jason towards the end of the series.



* HeterosexualLifePartners: Jason and Roy are the best friends to each other and the only people on whom they truly trust.

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* HeterosexualLifePartners: Jason and Roy are the best friends to each other and the only people on in whom they truly trust.



* NotSoDifferent: [[spoiler: The Joker's Daughter's entire motivation regarding Jason. She's the both of them as the forsaken children of the Joker, and how they both endeavour to continue their "father's" work for him by taking up his faces: Red Hood for Jason, and the Joker's literal face for Duella. Jason is evidently not happy with the comparison, and realizing how thin the line between them really is is what pushes Jason over the DespairEventHorizon]].



* RagTagBunchOfMisfits: A former Robin who came back from the dead and have a strained (if somewhat civil) relationship with the Batfamily and Green Arrow's ex-partner on rehab from his alcoholism.[[spoiler: And as issue six we have a deranged teenager girl that fancies herself as the daughter of the Joker.]]

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* RagTagBunchOfMisfits: A former Robin who came back from the dead and have has a strained (if somewhat civil) relationship with the Batfamily and Batfamily, Green Arrow's ex-partner on in rehab from for his alcoholism.alcoholism, [[spoiler: And as issue six and midway through we have a deranged teenager teenage girl that who fancies herself as the daughter of the Joker.]]Joker]].



* SadClown: Arsenal tries to chat and make jokes whenever he can, but it's fairly obvious that he's practically dead on the inside.

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* RefugeInAudacity: One of the reaction panels in the final issue depicts an infant watching [[spoiler: Everest's very brutal murder in a livestream meant to broadcast Roy's execution]].
* SadClown: Arsenal tries to chat and make jokes whenever he can, but it's fairly obvious that he's practically dead on the inside.



* TheBadGuyWins: [[spoiler: Duela accomplishes her goal of breaking Jason's spirit with her little poll stunt]]

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* {{Squick}}: The final issue dedicates a sequence of ReactionShots to [[spoiler: Everest's death by Anti-Nuclear Energy Arrow. Which involves his entire body dissolving as the arrow breaks down his molecules. Ick]].
* TheBadGuyWins: [[spoiler: Duela accomplishes her goal of breaking Jason's spirit with her little poll stunt]]stunt]].

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Is a monthly comic book series published by DC Comics' on June 2015 as part of their new editorial direction post-''ComicBook/{{Convergence}}''

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Is Was a monthly comic book series published by DC Comics' on June 2015 as part of their new editorial direction post-''ComicBook/{{Convergence}}''



* BatmanGambit: [[spoiler: Ironically used by ''Joker's Daughter'' to get close to the boys and destroy them from the inside]]
* BackFromTheDead: Palette and Suzie Su are resurrected by Sera Fina as part of her Hero Manifesto. They're all promptly defeated by Roy in their first encounter.



* BitterSweetEnding: [[spoiler: Joker's Daughter is beaten and the Iron Rule is dissolved but Jason's trust on people has been left in shambles and he decides to part ways from Roy to avoid dragging him into his own darkness]]



* DemonicPossession: Underbelly is able to manipulate the darkness on men's heart to bend them at his will.

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* DemonicPossession: Underbelly is able to manipulate the darkness on inside men's heart to bend them at his will.



** Jason's helmet having facial features changes with each artist.



* Main/InTheHood: Jason has traded his leather jacket for a hoddied Vest.

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* Main/InTheHood: InTheHood: Jason has briefly traded his leather jacket for a hoddied Vest.Vest at the start of the series.



* LimitedWardrobe: Subverted, so far no civilian outfit has been worn more than once.

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* LimitedWardrobe: Subverted, so far no civilian outfit has been was worn more than once.once.
* MadeOfEvil: Underbelly is all the insanity and evil impulses from Arkham inmated given physical form.
* OnPatrolMontage: A variant of this in which Jason and Roy adventures through France are depicted as a tabletop game is used in issue 2.



* RealityWarper: Sera Fina is able to manipulate pockets of reality in her inmediate vicinity. She uses this power to resurrect villians previously defeated by the boys.



* TaintedByThePreview: Thanks to the solicits for the Rebirth titles of ''Titans'' and ''Red Hood and the Outlaws'', we knew well before the release of the last issue that, in some shape or form, [[spoiler: [[BreakingOfTheFellowship Jason and Roy part ways]]]].

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* TaintedByThePreview: Thanks to the solicits for the Rebirth titles of ''Titans'' SpecialGuest: James Gordon's Batman guest stars in issues four and ''Red Hood and the Outlaws'', we knew well before the release of the last issue that, in some shape or form, five.
* TheBadGuyWins:
[[spoiler: [[BreakingOfTheFellowship Jason Duela accomplishes her goal of breaking Jason's spirit with her little poll stunt]]
* TheChessMaster: [[spoiler: Joker's Daughter puts in motion an incredibly complex
and Roy part ways]]]].at times contrived plan to break Jason's spirit through the second half of the series]]
* TheCameo: An amnesiac Bruce Wayne shows up in issue 6 while Red Robin does the same in issue 7.
* TheFreakShow: Pyg's old gang shows up in issue 7.


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* Main/PragmaticHero: Continuing the development started on ''ComicBook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws'' Red Hood no longer enjoys killing people, and tries to avoid it when possible.[[spoiler: This comes to a turning point when Joker's Daughter joins them, prompting Jason to swear off killing for good.]]
** [[spoiler: Well, as of the last issue, this is no longer true. Duela relapsed and tried to murder Jason, he killed her. It is unknown if he plans to go back to his old ways.]]
* AwLookTheyReallyDoLoveEachOther: Despite all the bickering and snark, Jason and Roy are inseparable and they would glady gave their lives for the other if it were necessary.

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* Main/PragmaticHero: Continuing the development started on ''ComicBook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws'' Red Hood no longer enjoys killing people, and tries to avoid it when possible.[[spoiler: This comes to a turning point when Joker's Daughter joins them, prompting Jason to swear off killing for good.]]
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]] However, when it's revealed [[spoiler: Well, as of the last issue, this is no longer true. Duela relapsed and tried that Joker's Daughter joined them in order to murder orchestrate Roy's very public execution to spite Jason, he killed her. It is unknown if he plans to go back to his old ways.relapses. He kills four of the Iron Rule and nearly kills its fifth and final member, had Roy not intervened.]]
* AwLookTheyReallyDoLoveEachOther: Despite all the bickering and snark, Jason and Roy are inseparable and they would glady gave their lives for the other if it were necessary. [[spoiler: [[{{Tearjerker}} Which makes their break-up all the more painful to see]]]].



* BreakHisHeartToSaveHim: [[spoiler: Jason faith is broken ''hard'' when he finds out a whopping 233, 000+ viewers voted to kill Roy. Combined with Duella's duplicity, he's convinced that there's no bright side for him. As much as Roy would hate him for it, Jason walks away so that his best friend may be a better hero than he would be had Jason stayed]].
* BreakingTheFellowship: [[spoiler: The series ends with Jason breaking off his partnership with Roy, believing that Roy's heroic potential won't go anywhere so long as he stayed with Jason]].



* DeathSeeker: [[spoiler: Is implied this is the reason Joker's Daughter looked for the boys]]

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* DeathSeeker: [[spoiler: Is implied this is the reason Joker's Daughter looked for the boys]]boys. However this turned out to be a ploy to get on Jason's good side.]]


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* TaintedByThePreview: Thanks to the solicits for the Rebirth titles of ''Titans'' and ''Red Hood and the Outlaws'', we knew well before the release of the last issue that, in some shape or form, [[spoiler: [[BreakingOfTheFellowship Jason and Roy part ways]]]].


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* WhatTheHellHero: Roy to Jason, [[spoiler: when the latter rescues Roy by brutally murdering four nuclear-powered mercs, and nearly kills a fifth and in front of a livestream audience. The line blurs, however, on whether Roy was more concerned about the livestream viewers or the fact that his best friend was about to commit to a RoaringRampageOfRevenge]].
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* ThirteenIsUnlucky: The series ended with issue 13
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* DevelopmentGag: The final arc sees Roy taken hostage by [[spoiler: his old merc gang, the Iron Rule, now led by the Joker's Daughter. She orchestrates a livestream where viewers could vote via online poll on whether he lives or dies, with many choosing 'die'. This is a clear nod to how Jason's death was decided by a phone-in poll, with the Joker involved as his murderer]].
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* {{Bookends}}: Of a sort to the entire New 52 run of Jason and Roy's adventures together. The original ''Red Hood and the Outlaws'' run began with a Jason saving Roy from captivity. ''Red Hood/Arsenal'' ends with Jason once again saving Roy from captivity. He even learns of it in the same way: viral footage of Roy at the mercy of his captors!


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** Depending on the writer, Jason might be too and [[LamePunReaction dies]] it.
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** [[spoiler: Well, as of the last issue, this is no longer true. Duela relapsed and tried to murder Jason, he killed her. It is unknown if he plans to go back to his old ways.]]



* RagTagBunchOfMisfits: A former Robin who came back from the dead and have a strained (if somewhat civil) relationship with the Batfamily and Green Arrow's ex-partner on rehab from his alcoholism.[[spoiler: And as issue six we have a deranged teenager girl that fancies herself as the daughter of the Joker]]

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* RagTagBunchOfMisfits: A former Robin who came back from the dead and have a strained (if somewhat civil) relationship with the Batfamily and Green Arrow's ex-partner on rehab from his alcoholism.[[spoiler: And as issue six we have a deranged teenager girl that fancies herself as the daughter of the Joker]]Joker.]]



** Depending on the writer, Jason might be too and [[LamePunReaction dies]] it.



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* {{Hypocrite}}: Jason berates Roy for being irresponsible, and mentally notes that he'll "never grow up". And yet he can't be bothered to take care of the "day-to-day stuff" and leaves Roy to handle it.
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* UnexpectedCharacter: NO ONE saw coming [[spoiler: Joker's Daughter joining the boys]]
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* PunchClockHero: Roy's idea of going legit is making them "Vigilantes-For-Hire". To this end he has set "Rent-A-Bat" a business venture that allows anyone to hire them for the right price. Suffice to say, Jason is less than thrilled by the idea.

-->'''Jason Todd''' "Now You want to start charging everyday people on the street for our help?"
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->'''Jason Todd:''' “See?! This is '''exactly''' why we '''don't do this for a living''' ”
->'''Roy Harper:''' “Okay, so '''maybe''' we don't take '''every job''' that comes our way. But you have to admit that being in this business together is '''kinda''' fun. ”
->'''Jason Todd:''' “Oh yeah. I'm having a blast. Idiot. ”
--> ''Red Hood/Arsenal'' #1 -

Is a monthly comic book series published by DC Comics' on June 2015 as part of their new editorial direction post-''ComicBook/{{Convergence}}''

Following the events of ''ComicBook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws'', [[ComicBook/GreenArrow Arsenal]] (Roy Harper) is on his own, trying to help people whether they want his help or not.
After a trade between a Mexican cartel and a Washington power broker goes wrong despite Arsenal's best efforts, he's reunited with his fellow Outlaw [[AntiHero Red Hood]] (Jason Todd). Together they successfully defuse the situation. The Power broker offers them a job and while they decline the offer, Roy later convinces Jason of going legit as [[PunchClockHero Vigilantes-for-Hire]]
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!! This comic provides examples of:

* TheAlcoholic: Arsenal is a recovering one. At the start of the series he's in a vulnerable place after his break up with Kori and is worried about having a relapse. Is only after having a pep talk with his sponsor Waylon Jones (AKA Killer Croc) that he recovers his confidence.
* Main/PragmaticHero: Continuing the development started on ''ComicBook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws'' Red Hood no longer enjoys killing people, and tries to avoid it when possible.[[spoiler: This comes to a turning point when Joker's Daughter joins them, prompting Jason to swear off killing for good.]]
* AwLookTheyReallyDoLoveEachOther: Despite all the bickering and snark, Jason and Roy are inseparable and they would glady gave their lives for the other if it were necessary.
* BatmanColdOpen: The beginning of Issue #3 has the boys shutting down an illegal gunrunning operation
* BadassNormal: Red Hood and Arsenal. [[spoiler: And of issue six, Joker's Daughter]]
* CodeName: Played with: they have them, but generally use their real ones.
* ContinuityNod: Issue #2, Roy mentions all the enemies they faced together in ''ComicBook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws''
* CrazyPrepared: Played with, Roy claims to have weapons ready for any kind of situation but he's so focused on seeing the big picture that he overlooks the most basic stuff like money management.
* DeadpanSnarker: Red Hood never miss the chance of point out how ridiculous or insane are the situations they come by.
* DeathSeeker: [[spoiler: Is implied this is the reason Joker's Daughter looked for the boys]]
* DemonicPossession: Underbelly is able to manipulate the darkness on men's heart to bend them at his will.
* DependingOnTheArtist: Denis Medri (original artist of the series) gave Jason a very distinctive undercut that is ignored by any other artist that draws him.
** The amount of musculature on the boys also varies from artist to artist.
* DysfunctionJunction: Despite Jason and Roy having grown as characters through their adventures there's still a long way to go before they can be considered flawless characters.
* FatBastard: Underbelly and Suzie Su
* FriendlyEnemy: Killer Croc returns to give Roy a pep talk.
**[[spoiler: Joker's Daughter help the boys to take down the Hero Manifiesto]]
* GeniusDitz: Arsenal. He's brilliant at making weapons and prone to blow all his money on spare parts.
* HeterosexualLifePartners: Jason and Roy are the best friends to each other and the only people on whom they truly trust.
* Main/InTheHood: Jason has traded his leather jacket for a hoddied Vest.
* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: Red Hood. He cares deeply for Roy's well being and is delighted to see Bruce alive despite their past.
* LimitedWardrobe: Subverted, so far no civilian outfit has been worn more than once.
* RagTagBunchOfMisfits: A former Robin who came back from the dead and have a strained (if somewhat civil) relationship with the Batfamily and Green Arrow's ex-partner on rehab from his alcoholism.[[spoiler: And as issue six we have a deranged teenager girl that fancies herself as the daughter of the Joker]]
* RedHeadedHero: Arsenal is a natural redhead.
* SadClown: Arsenal tries to chat and make jokes whenever he can, but it's fairly obvious that he's practically dead on the inside.
* SequelSeries: Is a direct follow up to ''ComicBook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws''
* TrickArrow: Roy has Bomb Arrows, Riot Control Arrows, Electric Arrows, Darkness inducing Arrows and even Arrows able to project a Bullet Proof shield on his quiver.
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!!This work is part of the following storylines:
* ''ComicBook/RobinWar''

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