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* TheDreaded: He’s spoken of with fear by a former underboss of the Yakavetta family, described as a monster. [[https://youtu.be/5f-zRm5cROQ This scene really shows how feared he is by the Yakavetta’s, the prison guards and even the other inmates.]]
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* NamedByALaterInstallment: He's not given a distinctive name, but toward the end of the movie, it' revealed that he is the long-lost father of the [=MacManus=] brothers. Come the sequel, his true name is finally revealed as Noah [=MacManus=].
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* NamedByALaterInstallment: He's not given a distinctive name, but toward the end of the movie, it' revealed that he is the long-lost father of the [=MacManus=] brothers. Come the sequel, his true name is finally revealed as Noah [=MacManus=].
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* DefiantToTheEnd: When the Saints prepare to execute him during his trial, instead of begging for his life, his FamousLastWords last words are "Vaffanculo", which translates to "Fuck you." in Italian.
* ProfaneLastWords: His last words are "fuck you" in Italian
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* InTheBlood: When he realizes he is about to die, he has the same FamousLastWords as Papa Yakavetta did years before.
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* PsychopathicManchild: A rare positive example. The two brothers play tricks on each other, roughhouse like a pair of little puppies, have gained most of their knowledge on how to pull hits from TV, and generally have a lot of moments where they act more like a pair of twelve year olds than grown adults. They also gleefully kill anyone they consider to be a "bad person", which is completely centered around their own version of morality.
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* TheDitz: Like Rocco before him, he's not always the brightest bulb on the tree. His BadassBoast above, for instance, suggests that he thinks Tabasco sauce was invented in Mexico (it wasn't, as a quick glance at the logo can show).
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* TheDitz: Like Rocco before him, he's not always the brightest bulb on the tree. His BadassBoast above, for instance, suggests that he thinks Tabasco sauce was invented in Mexico (it wasn't, as (as a quick glance at the logo can show).tell you, it wasn't).
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* TheDitz: Like Rocco before him, he's not always the brightest bulb on the tree. His BadassBoast above, for instance, suggests that he thinks Tabasco sauce was invented in Mexico (it wasn't, as a quick glance at the logo can show).
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* SmartCopDumbCop: Smecker is the smart cop to all three of the dumb Boston PD detectives of the homicide squad. They're so bad at their jobs that the few times they do hit upon the right answer, Smecker ignores them.
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* NamesTheSame: His actor, Gerard Parkes, also played Doc the inventor on ''Series/FraggleRock''.
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* LennonSpecs
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* {{Omniglot}}: Both the brothers can converse comfortably in, at minimum, English, Irish Gaelic, Russian, French, Spanish, and Italian. They switch among them on the fly to mess with Smecker and discuss their crimes without tipping him off.
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* BadassGay: He earns the title "Special Agent" for a damn good reason, has sex with other men, and hangs out at gay bars. Doesn't stop him from using [[HypocrisyNod derogatory slang towards them]] from time to time.
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* PopCulturedBadass: Mostly Connor but both of the saints are shown referencing old action movies.
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-->'''Greenly''': "Calm down? Calm down? ''Calm down?!'' You know they're gonna throw us in the Hoag. We put half those deranged sex-freaks in there. [[ThisIsGonnaSuck I hope you guys like cock-sandwiches, because we'll be eating them for breakfast, lunch and dinner!dinner!]]
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* BlingBlingBang: Acquires a pair of Para-Ordnance [=SSPs=] with "El Jefe" engraved into the slides in gold trim, outfitted with golden suppressors and Mexican flag grips.
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* ReplacementGoldfish: For Rocco. He has enough personality and wit to make him into his own character, proving that [[TropesAreNotBad this trope can be effective]].
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* ReplacementGoldfish: For Rocco. He has enough personality and wit to make him into his own character, proving that [[TropesAreNotBad [[Administrivia/TropesAreTools this trope can be effective]].
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* RealMenLoveJesus: The two of them are devout Christians, and also a pair of unrepentant vigilantes.
* VigilanteMan: Both of them are more than willing to put the law into their own hands is it means keeping others safe from the criminals and gangs that run rampant .
* AdaptationDecay[=/=]SpellMyNameWithAnS: In the credits and subtitles of the first film, he's listed as ''Conner'' [=MacManus=]. In the first movie's shooting script and the sequel, he's listed as Connor.
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* PoliticallyIncorrectHero: In the sequel, he uses some derogatory terms for gays and Mexicans, but it's mostly just him fooling around than being genuinely prejudiced.
* SpellMyNameWithAnS[=/=]AdaptationDecay: In the credits and subtitles of the first film, he's listed as ''Conner'' [=MacManus=]. In the first movie's shooting script and the sequel, he's listed as Connor.
* VigilanteMan: He's more than willing to put the law into his own hands is it means saving other helping others.
* SpellMyNameWithAnS[=/=]AdaptationDecay: In the credits and subtitles of the first film, he's listed as ''Conner'' [=MacManus=]. In the first movie's shooting script and the sequel, he's listed as Connor.
* VigilanteMan: He's more than willing to put the law into his own hands is it means saving other helping others.
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* PoliticallyIncorrectHero: In the sequel, he uses some derogatory terms for gays and Mexicans, but it's mostly just him fooling around than instead of being genuinely prejudiced.
* SpellMyNameWithAnS[=/=]AdaptationDecay: In the credits and subtitles of the first film, he's listed as ''Conner'' [=MacManus=]. In the first movie's shooting script and the sequel, he's listed as Connor.
* VigilanteMan: He's more than willing to put the law into his own hands is it means saving other helping others.
* VigilanteMan: He's more than willing to put the law into his own hands is it means saving other helping others.
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* CowboyCop: The three of them start working outside the law to help the Saints.
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!!In General
* AntiHero: The two of them are wanted murderers, but they make a note to only kill criminals who freely roam the streets. Specifically members of certain crime gangs.
* BerserkButton: Do ''not'' hurt one brother while the other one is present.
* FoolishSiblingResponsibleSibling: Connor is generally more calm, level-headed, and inclined to have a plan, except for in certain [[BerserkButton desperate situations]].
* RedOniBlueOni: Connor is the Blue to Murphy's Red. Connor can be a lot more soft-spoken and tries to be more rational, while Murphy is much more hot-headed and belligerent.
* SiblingTeam: The two of them are twins who dedicate themselves to fighting crime as a pair of vigilantes.
* VitriolicBestBuds: Even though the two are inseparable, they have been known to get into petty squabbles.
* AntiHero: The two of them are wanted murderers, but they make a note to only kill criminals who freely roam the streets. Specifically members of certain crime gangs.
* BerserkButton: Do ''not'' hurt one brother while the other one is present.
* FoolishSiblingResponsibleSibling: Connor is generally more calm, level-headed, and inclined to have a plan, except for in certain [[BerserkButton desperate situations]].
* RedOniBlueOni: Connor is the Blue to Murphy's Red. Connor can be a lot more soft-spoken and tries to be more rational, while Murphy is much more hot-headed and belligerent.
* SiblingTeam: The two of them are twins who dedicate themselves to fighting crime as a pair of vigilantes.
* VitriolicBestBuds: Even though the two are inseparable, they have been known to get into petty squabbles.
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* AntiHero: He may be a wanted murderer, but he only goes after criminals who are running free in the streets and members of various mafia.
* BerserkButton: Do ''NOT'' mess with his brother.
* BerserkButton: Do ''NOT'' mess with his brother.
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* FoolishSiblingResponsibleSibling: Not by much, but Connor is generally more calm, level-headed, and inclined to have a plan, except for in certain [[BerserkButton desperate situations]].
* RedOniBlueOni: Blue to Murphy's Red. Connor can be a lot more soft-spoken and less violent than Murphy, although even he has been shown to get quite volatile when his brother's life is threatened.
* RedOniBlueOni: Blue to Murphy's Red. Connor can be a lot more soft-spoken and less violent than Murphy, although even he has been shown to get quite volatile when his brother's life is threatened.
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* AntiHero: He can be hotheaded at times, but he genuinely cares about helping other people by killing those who would do them harm.
* BerserkButton: Don't hurt his brother, or any of his friends.
* BerserkButton: Don't hurt his brother, or any of his friends.
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* FoolishSiblingResponsibleSibling: While both of them are fairly hot-headed, Murphy is definitely the more impulsive of the two.
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* RedOniBlueOni: Red to Connor's Blue.
* CowboyCop: He eventually becomes one by the climax, as he drops all protocol to rescue the Saints.
* DoesntLikeToBeTouched: He really seems to be annoyed by cuddling.
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* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: He constantly humiliates and one-ups detectives Dolly, Duffy and Greenly, and can be downright unpleasant at times, but he's an honest cop who wants to do the right thing. Even Duffy admits that while he was a pain to work with, Smecker was a "stand-up guy".
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* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: He constantly humiliates and one-ups detectives Dolly, Duffy and Greenly, and can be downright unpleasant at times, but he's an honest cop who wants to do the right thing. Even Duffy admits that while he was a pain to work with, Smecker was a "stand-up guy".
* DamselOutOfDistress:
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* InspectorJavert: [[spoiler: Subverted. At first, she seems to be on the trail to hunt down the Boondock Saints, which leads to Dolly, Duffy and Greenly to try and throw her off the track. Turns out she was only looking for them so she could become their new "Guardian Angel".]]
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* InspectorJavert: [[spoiler: Subverted. At first, she She seems to be on the trail to hunt down the Boondock Saints, which leads to Dolly, Duffy and Greenly to try and throw her off the track. Turns out [[spoiler: This is later subverted, as she reveals that she was only actually looking for them so she could become their new "Guardian Angel".]]
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* PrecisionFStrike: Does her nickname for Special Agent John Kuntsler sound familiar to anyone?
-->'''Kuntsler''': So, how ya doin', Bloomy?\\
'''Bloom''': Just fine, ''Kunty''.
-->'''Kuntsler''': So, how ya doin', Bloomy?\\
'''Bloom''': Just fine, ''Kunty''.
* CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass: Played more straight in the sequel, as the three of them assist the Saints in some of their bigger hits.
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-->'''Smecker''': What can I say? I'm an expert at ''Nameology.''
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'''Smecker''': What can I say? I'm an expert at ''Nameology.''
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'''Smecker''': What can I say? I'm an expert at ''Nameology.''
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* PatrioticFervor: He's extremely proud of his Mexican roots and recist remarks towards his ethnicity are guaranteed to make him angry.
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* ArchenemesisDad: [[spoiler: He's hired by Giuseppe Yakavetta to kill Connor and Murphy in exchange for his freedom. This is later subverted, however. Once he realizes that they're his sons, all bets are off and he helps them kill [[BigBad Yakavetta]].]]
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* ArchenemesisDad: ArchnemesisDad: [[spoiler: He's hired by Giuseppe Yakavetta to kill Connor and Murphy in exchange for his freedom. This is later subverted, however. Once he realizes that they're his sons, all bets are off and he helps them kill [[BigBad Yakavetta]].]]
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* NeverHurtAnInnocent: He makes this point perfectly clear when Rocco puts a gun to a priest's head during confession, by doing the exact same thing to him.
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* PoliticallyIncorrectHero: In the sequel, he uses some derogatory terms for gays and Mexicans, but it's more him joking around than being actually being prejudiced.
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* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: He's hot-headed, prone to swearing and a bit violent, but so long as you don't have the blood of an innocent on your hands, he's a pretty nice guy to hang out with.
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* SmokingIsCool: Smokes a lot more. Played almost literally in a deleted scene, where Murphy lights up ''right before he takes a shower'' and promptly complains that Connor used up all the hot water. [[spoiler:May also be inherited from their father.]]
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* SmokingIsCool: Smokes a lot more. Played almost literally in a deleted scene, where Murphy lights one up ''right before he takes a shower'' and promptly complains that Connor used up all the hot water. [[spoiler:May [[spoiler: May also be inherited from their father.]]
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* ArchnemesisDad: Subverted. [[spoiler: He's only hired by Il Duce to kill Connor and Murphy in exchange for his freedom. Once he realizes that they're his sons, all bets are off and he helps them kill [[BigBad Yakavetta]].]]
* ArchenemesisDad: [[spoiler: He's hired by Giuseppe Yakavetta to kill Connor and Murphy in exchange for his freedom. This is later subverted, however. Once he realizes that they're his sons, all bets are off and he helps them kill [[BigBad Yakavetta]].]]
* LongLostRelative: [[spoiler: Turns out, he's actually Connor and Murphy's father.]]
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* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: He constantly humiliates and one-ups detectives Dolly, Duffy and Greenly, and can be downright unpleasant at times, but he's an honest cop who wants to do the right thing.
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* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: He constantly humiliates and one-ups detectives Dolly, Duffy and Greenly, and can be downright unpleasant at times, but he's an honest cop who wants to do the right thing. Even Duffy admits that while he was a pain to work with, Smecker was a "stand-up guy".
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-->'''Eunice''': "With With all due respect... man, I hate it when people say that because it is inevitably followed by a disrespectful remark. Here let me give you an example: With all due respect, detective, this matter falls under whatever jurisdiction I fuckin' say it does."
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* FriendOnTheForce: By the sequel, all three of them are this for the Saints. They believe in what the Saints are doing [[spoiler: and willingly help them in taking down Yakavetta.]]
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* AscendedFanboy: He already knows who the Saints are and seems pretty jazzed about meeting them, despite having a gun in his face half the time in their first meeting.
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* BilingualBonus: His FamousLastWords, "Vaffanculo", translate from Italian as "[[DefiantToTheEnd Fuck you.]]"
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* BilingualBonus: His FamousLastWords, As the leader of the Italian Mafia, he has a tendency to speak both Italian and English.
* DefiantToTheEnd: When the Saints prepare to execute him during his trial, instead of begging for his life, his FamousLastWords are "Vaffanculo",translate from Italian as "[[DefiantToTheEnd Fuck which translates to "Fuck you.]]"" in Italian.
* DefiantToTheEnd: When the Saints prepare to execute him during his trial, instead of begging for his life, his FamousLastWords are "Vaffanculo",
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