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* PushyGunTotingVillain: He spends his time in the film’s climax carrying a .38 and just looking for a reason to shoot someone dead (which Lloyd and Harry are quite unwittingly giving him). [[spoiler:After he shoots Harry, he looks like [[LeaveNoWitnesses he is going to follow up with Lloyd and Mary]] when the FBI barges in.]]
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* HeroesWantRedheads: To Mary.
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* SugarWiki/Flanderization: In both sequels he comes off as this. While he could follow Lloyd's schemes and advice there were times he was willing to call Lloyd out whenever he felt he went too far. In both Film/DumbAndDumbererWhenHarryMetLloyd and Film/DumbAndDumberTo he is far less likely to call Lloyd out and almost always follows whatever he's doing.
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* Flanderization: In both sequels he comes off as this. While he could follow Lloyd's schemes and advice there were times he was willing to call Lloyd out whenever he felt he went too far. In both Film/DumbAndDumbererWhenHarryMetLloyd and Film/DumbAndDumberTo he is far less likely to call Lloyd out and almost always follows whatever he's doing.
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* Flanderization: In both sequels he comes off as this. While he could follow Lloyd's schemes and advice there were times he was willing to call Lloyd out whenever he felt he went too far. In both Film/DumbAndDumbererWhenHarryMetLloyd and Film/DumbAndDumberTo he is far less likely to call Lloyd out and almost always follows whatever he's doing.
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'''Lloyd:''' Yeah... Could you do it the other way around?
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'''Lloyd:''' Yeah... Could you do it the other way around?
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'''Lloyd:''' Yeah... Could you do it the other way around?
'''Lloyd:''' Yeah... Could you do it the other way around?
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--> '''Sea Bass:''' Any last requests?\\
'''Lloyd:''' Yeah... Could you do it the other way around?
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* HeelFaceDoorSlam: Mental finally learns that Harry and Lloyd did not intentionally steal the briefcase and are just two lovesick losers with too much time on their hands [[spoiler:just before they accidentally poison him]]. Whether he'd have actually had a HeelFaceTurn is questionable, though; after [[KickTheDog what he did to Petey]], it's likely Mental would have whacked Harry and Lloyd anyway, just for wasting his time and being such a nuisance.
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* HeelFaceDoorSlam: Mental finally learns that Harry and Lloyd did not intentionally steal the briefcase and are just two lovesick losers with too much time on their hands [[spoiler:just before they accidentally poison him]]. Whether he'd have actually had a HeelFaceTurn is questionable, though; after [[KickTheDog what he did to Petey]], it's likely Mental would have whacked Harry and Lloyd anyway, just for wasting his time and being such a nuisance. All he says after he finds out the truth is "Talk about being in the wrong place at the wrong time!" which could go either way.
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* HeelFaceDoorSlam: Mental finally learns that Harry and Lloyd did not intentionally steal the briefcase and are just two lovesick losers with too much time on their hands [[spoiler:just before they accidentally poison him]].
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* HeelFaceDoorSlam: Mental finally learns that Harry and Lloyd did not intentionally steal the briefcase and are just two lovesick losers with too much time on their hands [[spoiler:just before they accidentally poison him]]. Whether he'd have actually had a HeelFaceTurn is questionable, though; after [[KickTheDog what he did to Petey]], it's likely Mental would have whacked Harry and Lloyd anyway, just for wasting his time and being such a nuisance.
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* HateSink: The man is a bad-tempered, violent bully and has virtually no redeeming aspects at all. He gets even worse when later he attempts to [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil rape and kill Lloyd]] over [[DisproportionateRetribution a dine and dash]].
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* DisproportionateRetribution: [[spoiler:How does he react to Harry and Lloyd pulling a dine-and-dash on him? He reacts by trying to ''rape'' and ''murder'' Lloyd when he meets him in the bathroom stall.]]
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* DisproportionateRetribution: [[spoiler:How does he react to Harry and Lloyd pulling a dine-and-dash on him? He reacts by trying to ''rape'' and ''murder'' Lloyd when he meets him in the bathroom stall.]]
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* KnightOfCerebus: The most tense scene of the film is the moment he decides to deal with the whole mess himself, [[spoiler:takes Lloyd and Mary hostage with full apparent intent to kill them and run off with the money, gets homicidally irate when he discovers that the whole ransom has been spent, and [[BulletproofVest seemingly]] shoots Harry dead.]]
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* ProfaneLastWords: [[spoiler:Mental has enough time to notice that Harry and Lloyd gave him a handful of the rat poison pills he was going to use to poison them and gurgles out a "you son of a bitch" to Harry (who got the pills from Mental's pocket) before dying.]]