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** [[spoiler:When Yaldabaoth merges Mementos with the real world, Akechi saves Sae from some shadows.

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** [[spoiler:When Yaldabaoth merges Mementos with the real world, Akechi saves Sae from some shadows.]]
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* SupportingProtagonist: Downplayed. Ken is the main character and POV of the story, but he's still a supporting member of the Phantom Thieves to Ren's role as the team's Wild Card and leader.
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* SingleWomanSeeksGoodMan: GenderInverted example. Ren tells the male thieves when he was asked of what he liked in a girl that he was initially attracted to Anne because she was the first person he met in Tokyo who had been kind to him, and later fell in love with Anne for her bright and empathetic personality as he got to know her.
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* AdaptationalSuperpowerChange: Downplayed. After Ken re-awakens to his Persona in the Metaverse, Kala-Nemi gains access to the Kouha line of spells as well as Gun-type attacks that he didn't have in his original game.
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* PrecociousCrush: He used to have a crush on Minako when he was younger though he’s already over it by the time the story starts.

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* InconsistentSpelling: The ''Ace In The Hole'' version of Ann spells her name "Anne", though that's how her name was spelled in the Japanese version of the canon material.



* SpellMyNameWithAnS: The ''Ace In The Hole'' version of Ann spells her name "Anne", though that's how her name was spelled in the Japanese version of the canon material.
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* OutOfFocus: She has been mentioned by SEES a few times, but it's only until relatively late into the story does she make her full appearance.

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* OutOfFocus: She has been mentioned by SEES a few times, but it's only not until relatively late into the story does that she make makes her full appearance.
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* TookALevelInCheerfulness: Yukari's shown to be ofter than she was back in high school, thanks to a combination of motherhood and receiving closure over her issues.

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* TookALevelInCheerfulness: Yukari's shown to be ofter happier than she was back in high school, thanks to a combination of motherhood and receiving closure over her issues.
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* TheCameo: Chapter 17 focuses on the Phantom Thieves meeting her during a Feathermen Rangers fan event.

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* TheCameo: ContinuityCameo: Chapter 17 focuses on the Phantom Thieves meeting her during a Feathermen Rangers fan event.

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* GoodGirlsAvoidAbortion: When she becomes pregnant with Minato's children, she refuses to get an abortion despite knowing the social stigma she will receive for being a teen mother.



* OutOfFocus: Due to her job, she's usually away from her friends.
* PinkMeansFeminine: Yukari is described to wear a pink top like she does in Persona 3.

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* OutOfFocus: Due to her job, she's usually away from her friends. \n However, she takes a more proactive role as the conflict between Shido and S.E.E.S. reaches its peak.
* PinkMeansFeminine: Yukari is described to wear wearing a pink top like she does in Persona 3.



* TookALevelInCheerfulness: Yukari is softer than her incarnation of VideoGame/Persona3, presumably due to motherhood.

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* TookALevelInCheerfulness: Yukari is softer Yukari's shown to be ofter than she was back in high school, thanks to a combination of motherhood and receiving closure over her incarnation of VideoGame/Persona3, presumably due to motherhood. issues.
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* SadClown: Ren is a confident, wise-cracking [[JustForPun joker]]. But beneath that surface is an insecure boy who is still coping with his life being under probation and the [[AllTheOtherReindeer ostracism that came from it]], including from his own parents.

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* SadClown: Ren is a confident, wise-cracking [[JustForPun joker]]. But joker, but beneath that surface is an insecure boy who is still coping with his life being under probation and the [[AllTheOtherReindeer ostracism that came from it]], including from his own parents.
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* ThreeAmigos: With Junpei and Yukari.



* ThreeAmigos: Has this dynamic with Minako and Yukari.
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** It's downplayed, but in regards to his working relationship with Sae, he does show genuine respect for her. Unlike in canon, he doesn't call her a "foolish woman" behind her back as he prepares to assassinate Ren.

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** It's downplayed, but in regards to his working relationship with Sae, he does show genuine respect for her. Unlike in canon, he doesn't call her a "foolish woman" behind her back as he prepares to assassinate Ren. Furthermore, [[spoiler: after the Phantom Thieves defeat them, he goes to Sae for help. She takes care of him before Akechi goes into hiding. He eventually admits that Sae is the only genuine relationship he had.]]
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* ParentsAsPeople: Late in the story, there were indications that Ren's parents truly cared for him despite their ParentalNeglect of him as they had tried to contact and ask Ren about how he is doing after they realized their mistake.[[spoiler:They also went to Tokyo just to talk to Ren in person during Christmas so they can make amends with their son]]. However, their ParentalAbandonment of him left Ren bitter and by the time Ren's mother tried to contact him shortly after the Casino heist, Ren refused to speak with them and the one time Ann answered his parents calls, Ren curtly cut the call off. During the period of [[spoiler:Ren's arrest to testify against Shido, it turns out that this goes both ways as they believed that Ren is so independent that he doesn't quite need his parents, when he really does ''need'' his parents support, especially during the day he was brought to the police station for his false assault and they realized it far too late, after he had been sent to Tokyo and Ren hasn't forgiven them yet.]]

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* ParentsAsPeople: Late in the story, there were indications that Ren's parents truly cared for him despite their ParentalNeglect of him as they had tried to contact and ask Ren about how he is doing after they realized their mistake.[[spoiler:They also went to Tokyo just to talk to Ren in person during Christmas so they can make amends with their son]]. However, their ParentalAbandonment of him left Ren bitter and by the time Ren's mother tried to contact him shortly after the Casino heist, Ren refused to speak with them and the one time Ann answered his parents calls, Ren curtly cut the call off. During the period of [[spoiler:Ren's arrest to testify against Shido, it turns out that this goes both ways as they Ren's parents, instead, believed that Ren is so independent that he doesn't quite need his parents, when he really does ''need'' his parents support, especially during the day he was brought to the police station for his false assault and assault. By the time they realized it far too late, after he had been sent their mistake, Ren's gone to Tokyo thinking that they don't believe him and Ren hasn't forgiven them yet.completely abandoned him.]]
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* ParentsAsPeople: Late in the story, there were indications that Ren's parents truly cared for him despite their ParentalNeglect of him as they had tried to contact and ask Ren about how he is doing after they realized their mistake.[[spoiler:They also went to Tokyo just to talk to Ren in person during Christmas so they can make amends with their son]]. However, their ParentalAbandonment of him left Ren bitter and by the time Ren's mother tried to contact him shortly after the Casino heist, Ren refused to speak with them and the one time Ann answered his parents calls, Ren curtly cut the call off.

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* ParentsAsPeople: Late in the story, there were indications that Ren's parents truly cared for him despite their ParentalNeglect of him as they had tried to contact and ask Ren about how he is doing after they realized their mistake.[[spoiler:They also went to Tokyo just to talk to Ren in person during Christmas so they can make amends with their son]]. However, their ParentalAbandonment of him left Ren bitter and by the time Ren's mother tried to contact him shortly after the Casino heist, Ren refused to speak with them and the one time Ann answered his parents calls, Ren curtly cut the call off. During the period of [[spoiler:Ren's arrest to testify against Shido, it turns out that this goes both ways as they believed that Ren is so independent that he doesn't quite need his parents, when he really does ''need'' his parents support, especially during the day he was brought to the police station for his false assault and they realized it far too late, after he had been sent to Tokyo and Ren hasn't forgiven them yet.]]

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* VitriolicBestBuds: Has this dynamic with Yukari. They'll bicker and argue, but will always have each other's backs.

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* VitriolicBestBuds: Has this dynamic with Yukari. They'll bicker and argue, but will always have each other's backs. Minako recalled an incident while they were still in high school where Junpei got into a physical altercation with a student who was badmouthing Yukari for being a teen mother.



* NeverMyFault: Despite somewhat regretting what happened to Futaba and Haru (see MyGodWhatHaveIDone), Akechi doesn't change his plans at all, internally justifying the fallout of his killings as not really his fault. This is despite the fact that he previously considered killing Okumura even if Shido hadn't ordered him to.

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* NeverMyFault: Despite somewhat regretting what happened to Futaba and Haru (see MyGodWhatHaveIDone), Akechi doesn't change his plans at all, internally justifying the fallout of his killings as not really his fault. This is despite the fact that he previously considered killing Okumura even if Shido hadn't ordered him to. When Ken calls him out for killing Wakaba during their confrontation in the engine room, Akechi's rationalization is that Wakaba had it coming for getting in Shido's way.



* PetTheDog: According to Sae, he was the only one in the department who treated her with respect in spite of her gender. And as shown from Akechi's own perspective, those feelings are indeed genuine.

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According to Sae, he was the only one in the department who treated her with respect in spite of her gender. And as shown from Akechi's own perspective, those feelings are indeed genuine.genuine.
** [[spoiler:When Yaldabaoth merges Mementos with the real world, Akechi saves Sae from some shadows.



* SparedByTheAdaptation: [[spoiler:Unlike in the vanilla game, which this story is based on, where his fate remains [[UncertainDoom nebulous]], Akechi manages to survive his confrontation with the Phantom Theives thanks to Cognitive Akechi being moved to the Shadow Shido boss fight.]]

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* SparedByTheAdaptation: [[spoiler:Unlike in the vanilla game, which this story is based on, where his fate remains [[UncertainDoom nebulous]], Akechi manages to survive his confrontation with the Phantom Theives Thieves thanks to Cognitive Akechi being moved to the Shadow Shido boss fight.]]
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* KansaiRegionalAccent: As in the Japanese version in ''Arena/Ultimax'' she has a Kansai accent. This carries into the fanfic, as Ken refers to her having a Kansai accent, comparing her accent to Ryuji's mother's accent.

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!!!'''Weapons:''' [[BladeOnAStick Spears]] and [[MoreDakka machine pistols]]

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!!!'''Weapons:''' [[BladeOnAStick Spears]] Spears and [[MoreDakka machine pistols]]



* BladeOnAStick: As with ''Persona 3'', his weapon is a spear. Ren complains that it's not exactly the easiest weapon to hide. Ryuji, on the other hand, initially has [[CompensatingForSomething his own impression of Ken's choice of weaponry.]]
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!!!'''Weapons:''' [[WhipItGood Whips]] and [[MoreDakka submachine guns]]

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!!!'''Weapons:''' [[WhipItGood Whips]] Whips and [[MoreDakka submachine guns]]
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* FashionModel: Yukari is mentioned to be a model still.

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* BadassInCharge: There's a reason she's in charge of the Shadow Operatives.



* FictionFiveHundred: As the CEO of the Kirijo Group and the BadassInCharge of the Shadow Operatives, this goes without saying.

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* FictionFiveHundred: As the CEO of the Kirijo Group and the BadassInCharge leader of the Shadow Operatives, this goes without saying.
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* ParentsAsPeople: Late in the story, there were indications that Ren's parents truly cared for him and tried to contact and ask Ren about how he is doing after they realized their mistake.[[spoiler:They also went to Tokyo just to talk to Ren in person during Christmas so they can make amends with their son]]. However, their ParentalAbandonment of him left Ren bitter and by the time Ren's mother tried to contact him shortly after the Casino heist, Ren refused to speak with them and the one time Ann answered his parents calls, Ren curtly cut the call off.

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* ParentsAsPeople: Late in the story, there were indications that Ren's parents truly cared for him and despite their ParentalNeglect of him as they had tried to contact and ask Ren about how he is doing after they realized their mistake.[[spoiler:They also went to Tokyo just to talk to Ren in person during Christmas so they can make amends with their son]]. However, their ParentalAbandonment of him left Ren bitter and by the time Ren's mother tried to contact him shortly after the Casino heist, Ren refused to speak with them and the one time Ann answered his parents calls, Ren curtly cut the call off.

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* AdaptationalNameChange: Downplayed. While she's named by the player in the game itself, she's called Kotone Shiomi in the stage play adaptation, as well as in a collaboration with ''VideoGame/PuzzleAndDragons''. Here, she's named Minako Arisato.

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* AdaptationalNameChange: Downplayed. While she's named by the player in the game itself, she's called Kotone Shiomi in the stage play adaptation, as well as which would later be canonized in a collaboration with ''VideoGame/PuzzleAndDragons''.''VideoGame/PuzzleAndDragons'' and the 2023 port of ''Portable''. Here, she's named Minako Arisato.



* AllYourBaseAreBelongToUs: Takes over the Velvet Room like in canon, though this time he imprisons not Igor, [[spoiler:but Theodore, Margaret and Marie as well]].

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* AllYourBaseAreBelongToUs: Takes over the Velvet Room like in canon, though this time he imprisons not only Igor, [[spoiler:but Theodore, Margaret and Marie as well]].



* FinalBoss: Is the final enemy the Phantom Thieves face in the story.

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* FinalBoss: Is He is the final enemy the Phantom Thieves face in the story.

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* HundredPercentAdorationRating: When the Phantom Thieves take a trip to Inaba, the townsfolk speak of him in very high regard.


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* UniversallyBelovedLeader: When the Phantom Thieves take a trip to Inaba, the townsfolk speak of him in very high regard.
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* [[MasterOfAll Mistress of All]]: Although she wasn't this during the events of the ''Persona 3'' main storyline after Minato passed away on her lap, he passed his Wild Card, and Orpheus, down to her.

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* [[MasterOfAll Mistress of All]]: MasterOfAll: Although she wasn't this during the events of the ''Persona 3'' main storyline after Minato passed away on her lap, he passed his Wild Card, and Orpheus, down to her.

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* MasterOfAll: Naturally, as she is a Wild Card. She definitely has the power to back up her rank as Mitsuru's NumberTwo in the Shadow Operatives.



* [[MasterOfAll Mistress of All]]: Naturally, as she is a Wild Card. She definitely has the power to back up her rank as Mitsuru's NumberTwo in the Shadow Operatives.
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* ParentsAsPeople: Late in the story, there were indications that Ren's parents truly cared for him and tried to contact and ask Ren about how he is doing after they realized their mistake.[[spoiler:They also went to Tokyo just to talk to Ren in person during Christmas so they can make amends with their son]]. However, their ParentalAbandonment of him left Ren bitter and by the time Ren's mother tried to contact him shortly after the Casino heist, Ren refused to speak with them and the one time Ann answered his parents calls, Ren curtly cut the call off.

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* {{Foil}}: He's this to Sae. Shinjiro is blunt with a FaceOfAThug. He excels in cooking, a traditionally feminine art. He chooses to become Ken's guardian by choice. He also openly bickers with Ken and their relationship is leagues better than what it was in ''VideoGame/Persona3'' even though Ken has insecurities about being a burden to him. Shinjiro puts his friends above his career, telling Ken that he would delay his career for Ken's sake if given the choice.

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* {{Foil}}: He's this to Sae. Sae.
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Shinjiro is blunt with a FaceOfAThug. He excels in cooking, a traditionally feminine art. He chooses to become Ken's guardian by choice. He also openly bickers with Ken and their relationship is leagues better than what it was in ''VideoGame/Persona3'' even though Ken has insecurities about being a burden to him. Shinjiro puts his friends above his career, telling Ken that he would delay his career for Ken's sake if given the choice.



* HiddenHeartOfGold: Shinjiro still has trouble showing that he cares sometimes.
** Ren also teases him about it in Ken's rank 9, saying that there's nothing wrong with showing Ken how much he cares.

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* HiddenHeartOfGold: Shinjiro still has trouble showing that he cares sometimes. \n** Ren also teases him about it in Ken's rank 9, saying that there's nothing wrong with showing Ken how much he cares.



* ButtMonkey: In ''Persona Q2: The Ace Edition'', he's constantly made fun of by Miyuki and Kaito and the Phantom Thieves, knowing Akechi's true nature, make no attempt to back him up.

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* ButtMonkey: ButtMonkey:
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* {{Foil}}: Besides being this to Ren like he is in canon, he's also this to Ken here.

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Besides being this to Ren like he is in canon, he's also this to Ken here.here. Akechi is basically what Ken might look like if he never gave up his obsession with revenge, and also threw away any semblance of morality in its pursuit.



* LastNameBasis: Before he joins in Sae's Palace, he referred to the male Phantom Thieves by "[last name]-kun" and the girls "[last name]-san". And as in canon, the Phantom Thieves call him by his surname.
** When we see the Casino Heist from Akechi's point-of-view, he addresses the Thieves all by their last names as well.

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* LastNameBasis: Before he joins in Sae's Palace, he referred to the male Phantom Thieves by "[last name]-kun" and the girls "[last name]-san". And as in canon, the Phantom Thieves call him by his surname. \n** When we see the Casino Heist from Akechi's point-of-view, he addresses the Thieves all by their last names as well.
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* AsskickingEqualsAuthority: Given that Minako is a Wild Card and is essentially NumberTwo amongst the Shadow Operatives' ranks, she definitely has the power to back up her rank.

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* AsskickingEqualsAuthority: AsskickingLeadsToLeadership: Given that Minako is a Wild Card and is essentially NumberTwo amongst the Shadow Operatives' ranks, she definitely has the power to back up her rank.

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* ChekhovMIA: Her disappearance, plus the knowledge that Igor gave Ren the ability to use the Third Eye, tips Yu off to the fact that something is off, but he has yet to act on it. [[spoiler:Sure enough, she is later revealed to have been imprisoned by Yaldabaoth along with Igor, Margaret and Theodore. Her absence also allows for Mementos to merge with Inaba, since she’s not around to protect it]].



* SmallRoleBigImpact: Her disappearance, plus the knowledge that Igor gave Ren the ability to use the Third Eye, tips Yu off to the fact that something is off, but he has yet to act on it. [[spoiler:Her absence also allows for Mementos to merge with Inaba, since she’s no longer around to protect it]].

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