History BrokenBase / StarVsTheForcesOfEvil

** The GrandFinale "Cleaved" is very controversial, especially with how [[spoiler: Star destroys all magic in the Multiverse meaning that all the magical beings like her spells are dead.]] While some viewed it as a bold form of closure for the series, others just found it needlessly cruel.

* While a lot of fans liked the early reveal that the Mewmans were the invaders, and the monsters were the victims were the victims of colonialism, some are divided on the lengths the show had gone with it since, feeling its become {{Anvilicious}} in its messaging.

* [[{{Narcissist}} Pony Head]] ''really'' exemplifies this trope. One side finds her sass and sarcasm funny, and appreciate the moments where she's nice to Star. Others think that she spews annoying, unfunny dialogue and think she's not a good friend, or even person. Episodes like "Ponymonium" and "Bam Ui Pati", which are also divisive, don't help out.
* Alfonso and Ferguson are either seen as annoying and unneeded, or really funny sidekicks who did not deserve to get the shaft. The fact that the characters were an executive mandate doesn't help.

* Glossaryk has this trope ''in spades'' . He's either a funny character who has a strangely compelling way to give wisdom and help others, or he's an annoying troll who's too unlikable due to how he almost ''never'' does anything directly, and just expects others to follow what he says without being clear, all intentionally. His entries under unintentionally unsympathetic don't help out.

* The fandom ''exploded'' after "Lake House Fever" aired in early season 4. Starco shippers hated it (many declaring it the worst episode of the series) because it looked like an obvious setup for Star and Tom to break up...but they didn't. Many Tomstar shippers loved it for that exact reason and because it finally gave a proper introduction to Tom's family, while others were appalled by what bad girlfriend Star was being to Tom (making it clear that she intended to ''never'' tell Tom about kissing Marco in "Booth Buddies", and getting angry and trying to run away when she found out Marco had told him, plus the fact Star had already been openly flirtatious toward Marco in the preceding episode "Ransomgram"). And many of both groups along with non-shippers are simply frustrated that the RomanticPlotTumor of season 3 is continuing with seemingly no end in sight.
* "Curse of the Blood Moon", full stop. For Starco shippers, it enraged many with even the suggestion that their feelings for each other could've all been fake. At the same time, it left Starco shippers some hope due to Star openly wondering whether the curse had anything to do with their feelings at all and starting to regret having started the ritual to break the curse, and many saw their repeat of the Blood Moon Ball dance to be the most beautifully romantic moment in the series to date. Jarco shippers and Jackie fans in general were also disgusted by the idea that their preferred ship may have been sunk for literally nothing.
** Outside of the direct shipping implications, there were also plenty of fans who were uncomfortable with the revelation that yes, Tom really ''did'' try to curse Star into being soul-bonded with him without her consent, and even more so by the way the show just brushed past that revelation as if it were a minor thing. Many also felt the newly generated uncertainty about how real Star and Marco's feelings were (regardless of who ends up with who romantically) was insulting to the audience, since they watched the characters live through those emotions over the course of 3 prior seasons and retconning it to be "not real" undermines the stakes of those episodes.

* "Curse of the Blood Moon", full stop. For Starco shippers, it enraged many with even the suggestion that their feelings for each other could've all been fake. But at the same time it left them Starco shippers some hope due to Star openly wondering whether the curse had anything to do with their feelings at all and starting to regret having started the ritual to break the curse, and many saw their repeat of the Blood Moon Ball dance to be the most beautifully romantic moment in the series to date. Jarco shippers and Jackie fans in general also were disgusted by the idea that when their preferred ship was killed off, it might have been for literally nothing.
** Outside of the direct shipping implications, there were also plenty of fans who were uncomfortable with the revelation that yes, Tom really ''did'' try to curse Star into being soul-bonded with him without her consent, and even more so by the way the show just brushed past that revelation as if it were a minor thing. Many also felt the newly generated uncertainty about how real Star and Marco's feelings were (regardless of who ends up with who romantically) is insulting to the audience, since we watched the characters live through those emotions over the course of 3 prior seasons and retconning it to be "not real" undermines the stakes of those episodes.

* Ludo [[spoiler:[[HijackedByGanon being ousted from the spot of main villain by Toffee]] yet again]] in Season 2. Obviously, [[spoiler:fans of Toffee are pleased he's back and affirming himself as the overall BigBad]], but others feel that [[spoiler:it renders Ludo's [[TookALevelInBadass slow climb to an actual threat]] null and void, and paints him as existing solely to be [[HarmlessVillain a villain that does nothing]] and gets hijacked by bigger threats]]. [[spoiler: However, this is somewhat mitigated by Ludo being placed back in control of himself in order to pull off his actual slow-building invasion plan in ''The Battle for Mewni'', and mitigated even further at the end of said movie when Ludo takes his revenge for the hijacking by being the one to actually ''kill'' Toffee.]]

* The fandom ''exploded'' after "Lake House Fever" aired in early season 4. Starco shippers hated it (many declaring it the worst episode of the series) because it looked like an obvious setup for Star and Tom to break up...but they didn't. Many Tomstar shippers loved it for that exact reason, while others were appalled by what bad girlfriend Star was being to Tom (making it clear that she intended to ''never'' tell Tom about kissing Marco in "Booth Buddies", and getting angry and trying to run away when she found out Marco had told him, plus the fact Star had already been openly flirtatious toward Marco in the preceding episode "Ransomgram"). And many of both groups along with non-shippers are simply frustrated that the RomanticPlotTumor of season 3 is continuing with seemingly no end in sight.

** The ShipTease. As detailed in RomanticPlotTumor, Season 3 so far has teased numerous ships while also attempting to sink other ships. Star tries to get over Marco and gets back with Tom. Jackie breaks up with Marco and he develops an unrequited crush on Star. He then receives ShipTease with Kelly. Finally, he ends up angering Hekapoo into stopping their adventures together.[[note]]If you're keeping track, that's Starco half teased/half sunk, Tomstar at sail, Kellco teased, Markapoo sunk, and Jarco sunk.[[/note]] Some, such as those that favor the ships teased, are perfectly okay with it and note that teasing ships isn't something new to the show. Others however, even among those who favor the winning pairings, feel it is pointless and distracts from other aspects such as the lore and comedy, and note that while previous seasons might've had a ton of ship tease they rarely had whole episodes devoted ''solely'' to the teasing.

** The fact that [[spoiler:Star and Marco's first kiss came while she's still dating Tom]] was immediately controversial, even if it did happen under duress. On one hand, there are a number of fans who felt that [[spoiler:the kiss was forced and that Marco looked like a jerk for making Star "cheat" on Tom. However, others point out that he had good intentions since the two of them wouldn't have been able to leave the photo booth unless such action was taken. It's also been pointed out that Tom has done worse things to Star and probably [[NotSoDifferent wouldn't have been much different]], along with Star seeming to be aware that she was still with Tom during her moment of shock afterwards. [[TakeAThirdOption There's also a third group of people -specifically the more diehard Starco shippers-]] that don't care about any of the above as long as the two finally got to kiss]].

* The CerebusSyndrome that begun since the mid-Season 2 onwards. Some fans accept it with open arms and see the show's greater emphasis on plot and character development as a welcome addition, while others see it as unnecessary for what's supposed to be a comedy show, or feel that the show fumbles hard in trying to deliver a more intense, continuity heavy story.

* The breakup between Jackie and Marco has a mixed reception with the fanbase. Some are happy with the break up due to disliking the pairing but others were disappointed/angered because it could've gotten more screen time and focus before it ended. See TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter below. The above-mentioned objection about how the separation between Earth and Mewni is completely arbitrary also plays a role in this; many feel that the breakup happening so suddenly rather than giving the relationship more time to play out was solely because the Earth setting was being phased out and Jackie is an "Earth" character who was deemed to have no role in the new all-Mewni setting. Jarco shippers, and just Jackie fans in general, found this particularly galling since ''other'' "Earth characters" still get to drop in and visit Mewni just fine. On the other hand many fans found the actual breakup itself to be well-written and emotionally satisfying, even ones who wished it hadn't happened so quickly.

* While a lot of fans like the moral grey the reveal that the Mewmans were the invaders and the monsters were the victims, some are divided on the lengths the show has gone with it, feeling its become {{Anvilicious}} and goes beyond introducing grey to the point of inverting the black and white.

* Tom. While a lot of fans agree that he is a good character, the divide lies in whether or not one should judge him for manipulating Star. Half the fanbase points out that Tom was a terrible boyfriend to Star, with DomesticAbuse implied, and keeps trying to manipulate her. The other half points out that he's actively trying to change himself and manage his temper; in "Mr. Candle Cares", he finally got the message that [[spoiler:forcing Star to be with him wouldn't work and that for better or for worse Marco's looking out for Star as a friend and thus will protect her.]] However, he became even more of a base-breaker when [[spoiler: he and Star got back together again]] in Season 3. Added to that, a number of fans feel he's become a wasted presence as a result, considering a lot of episodes in that season have him do nothing but react to the situation.
* Despite his popularity for [[VileVillainSaccharineShow being a good, competent, serious and effective villain]], there are a handful of people who don't like Toffee. Some believe he's too serious and out of place for a show like ''Star vs.'', and/or consider him boring. Ultimately, [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter his full potential remains unrealized]]. Despite the fact that he [[spoiler: most likely died in the otherwise superb ''The Battle for Mewni'' and is unlikely to return this time, most of his motivations for what he did still remain unclear beyond the most basic level of {{Revenge}}.]] Not helping matters was WordOfGod claiming he was [[WellIntentionedExtremist a morally complex character]] with VillainHasAPoint, something ''[[InformedAttribute not clearly expressed any time he was on-screen]]'', only vaguely implied with a situation he was in during a ''flashback''. At the same time, some fans were attracted to Toffee ''because'' of how mysterious he was and feel like answering everything would lessen him.
* Jackie-Lynn Thomas became one big time after she and Marco finally [[RelationshipUpgrade became]] an OfficialCouple, which has earned her [[DieForOurShip quite a lot of backlash from]] [[FanPreferredCouple Starco shippers]]; but really, it mostly boils down to whether you're either a Starco or a Jarco shipper. Her actual personality is either compelling or boring.
** The season three opening has caused some controversy because Jackie isn't in it, and things only got worse after "Sophomore Slump". Fans who like her are worried she is getting written out just so Starco can happen guilt free. While her haters like it for basically the same reason. [[spoiler: And Starco ''still'' doesn't happen, as Star is now with Tom and Marco hooks up with ''Kelly'' of all people.]]
* Star herself became one by the end of Season 2. While she still remains very popular in the fandom and her fans love her for being a brave, plucky, determined, and energetic female protagonist, some others find her a bratty, selfish, and irresponsible protagonist, who never learns her lessons (or forgets them almost instantly) and they find her a very bad daughter to her mother, especially in "Face the Music" and "Starcrushed".

* Alfonso and Ferguson are either seen as annoying and unneeded, or really funny sidekicks who did not deserve to get the shaft.

** The decision to leave Earth as a setting and focus more on Mewni. Some are fine with it, feeling Earth had plenty of time in the spotlight for the first two seasons and that Mewni has large amounts of untapped potential, ranging from the Butterfly family history to the ongoing racism between Mewmans and Monsters. Others, however, feel it shafts the Earth cast outside Marco and [[AscendedExtra Janna]], and leaves potential plot threads [[LeftHanging hanging open]]. That latter group also has members who note that the separation between Earth and Mewni is completely arbitrary anyway, given that dimensional scissors (which both Star and Marco have easy access to) make travel between different worlds literally easier than walking across the street, meaning that an increased focus on Mewni never required abandoning Earth at all.

** The ShipTease. As detailed in RomanticPlotTumor, Season 3 so far has teased numerous ships while also attempting to sink other ships. Star tries to get over Marco and gets back with Tom. Jackie breaks up with Marco and he develops an unrequited crush on Star. He then receives ShipTease with Kelly. Finally, he ends up angering Hekapoo into stopping their adventures together.[[note]]If you're keeping track, that's Starco half teased/half sunk, Tomstar at sail, Kellco teased, Markapoo sunk, and Jarco sunk.[[/note]] Some, such as those that favor the ships teased, are perfectly okay with it and note that teasing ships isn't something new to the show. Others however, even among those who favor the winning pairings, feel it is pointless and distracts from other aspects such as the lore, and note that while previous seasons might've had a ton of ship tease they rarely had whole episodes devoted ''solely'' to the teasing.

* Tom. While a lot of fans agree that he is a good character, the divide lies in whether or not one should judge him for manipulating Star. Half the fanbase points out that Tom was a terrible boyfriend to Star, with DomesticAbuse implied, and keeps trying to manipulate her. The other half points out that he's actively trying to change himself and manage his temper; in "Mr. Candle Cares", he finally got the message that [[spoiler:forcing Star to be with him wouldn't work and that for better or for worse Marco's looking out for Star as a friend and thus will protect her.]] However, he became even more of a base-breaker when [[spoiler: he and Star got back together again]] in Season 3.

** Interestingly enough, this went in the opposite direction in season 3, where she's less impulsive, more reasonable, and more willing to be there for others. The base is split in three camps: those who thought she's annoying and not that interesting anymore, those who were open to the change but thought it wasn't handled well and even went as far as to call her a VanillaProtagonist, and those who think this is a natural progression of her character.

** The decision to leave Earth as a setting and focus more on Mewni. Some are fine with it, feeling Earth had plenty of time in the spotlight for the first two seasons and that Mewni has large amounts of untapped potential, ranging from the Butterfly family history to the ongoing racism between Mewmans and Monsters. Others, however, feel it shafts the Earth cast outside Marco and [[AscendedExtra Janna]], and leaves potential plot threads [[LeftHanging hanging open]]. That latter group also has members who note that the separation between Earth and Mewni is completely arbitrary anyway, given that dimensional scissors (which both Star and Marco have easy access to) make travel between different worlds literally easier than walking across the street, meaning that an increased focus on Mewni never required abandoning Earth at all. In "Marco Jr.", it's revealed that [[spoiler:Marco's mom, Angie, is pregnant]] which leaves some promise that the show will visit Earth more often but it might not be plausible given the fact Marco hasn't contacted his parents for months not knowing about [[spoiler: his mom's pregnancy]] and the fact that he has tunnel vision focusing on being Star's squire on Mewni.

* Tom. While a lot of fans agree that he is a good character, the divide lies in whether or not one should judge him for manipulating Star. Half the fanbase points out that Tom was a terrible boyfriend to Star, with DomesticAbuse implied, and keeps trying to manipulate her. The other half points out that he's actively trying to change himself and manage his temper; in "Mr. Candle Cares", he finally got the message that [[spoiler:forcing Star to be with him wouldn't work and that for better or for worse Marco's looking out for Star as a friend and thus will protect her.]] However, he became even more of a base-breaker when [[spoiler: he and Star got back together again in Season 3.]]

** Interestingly enough, this went in the opposite direction in season 3, where she's less impulsive, more reasonable, and more willing to be there for others. The base is split in three camps: those who thought she's annoying and not that interesting anymore, those who were open to the change but thought it wasn't handled well and even went as far as to call her a vanilla protagonist, and those who think this is a natural progression of her character.

** Interestingly enough, this went in the opposite direction in season 3, where she's less impulsive, more reasonable, and more willing to be there for others. The base is split in three camps: those who thought she's annoying and not that interesting anymore, those who were open to the change but thought it wasn't handled well, and those who think this is a natural progression of her character.

* [[spoiler: Miss Heinous, aka Meteora, is in a ''really'' weird position. During her times as Miss Heinous, she was either a compelling villain who brought up interesting points on individuality, or an annoying strawman who tries and fails to be serious. After "Monster Bash", where she finds out that she's Eclipsa's daughter Meteora, things went in a different direction. Her much more monstrous personality, both figuratively and later on literally, is either understandable given that she is the rightful heir to the throne, or she's essentially just an overgrown child throwing a temper tantrum, and is little more than a generic doomsday villain.]] It's safe to say that there's no middle ground for her character.

* There's a rift between those who [[FanPreferredCouple ship Star and Marco]] and those who prefer them as PlatonicLifePartners, with the latter feeling tired and bored about the typical cliché of "the two main characters of the opposite sex who eventually fall in love and become the OfficialCouple" while the former either disagree with that reasoning or agree in principle but think that the show itself [[TropesAreTools has been executing the friends-to-lovers trope extremely well]], and that Star and Marco's chemistry more than compensates for that cliché.
* Ludo [[spoiler:[[HijackedByGanon being ousted from the spot of main villain by Toffee]] yet again]] in Season 2. Obviously, [[spoiler:fans of Toffee are pleased he's back and affirming himself as the overall BigBad]], but others feel that [[spoiler:it renders Ludo's [[TookALevelInBadass slow climb to an actual threat]] null and void, and paints him as existing solely to be [[HarmlessVillain a villain that does nothing]] and gets hijacked by bigger threats]]. [[spoiler: However, this is somewhat mitigated by Ludo being placed back in control of himself in order to pull off his actual slow-building invasion plan in ''The Battle for Mewni'', and mitigated even further at the end of said movie when Ludo takes his revenge for the hijacking by being the one to actually ''kill'' Toffee.]]
* The CerebusSyndrome that begun since the mid-Season 2 onwards. Some fans accept it with open arms and see the show's greater emphasis on plot and character development as a welcome addition, while others see it as unnecessary for what's supposed to be a comedy show, or feel that the show fumbles hard in trying to deliver a more intense, continuity heavy story.

** The LGBT crowd was ''not happy'' with the scene of Heinous showing Marco's chest hair in "Princess Turdina" to oust him in front of the crowd, as it made them incredibly uncomfortable by the message it was trying to do, while some didn't think it too bad.
** The breakup between Jackie and Marco has a mixed reception with the fanbase. Some are happy with the break up due to disliking the pairing but others were disappointed/angered because it could've gotten more screen time and focus before it ended. See TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter below. The above-mentioned objection about how the separation between Earth and Mewni is completely arbitrary also plays a role in this; many feel that the breakup happening so suddenly rather than giving the relationship more time to play out was solely because the Earth setting was being phased out and Jackie is an "Earth" character who was deemed to have no role in the new all-Mewni setting. Jarco shippers, and just Jackie fans in general, found this particularly galling since ''other'' "Earth characters" still get to drop in and visit Mewni just fine. On the other hand many fans found the actual breakup itself to be well-written and emotionally satisfying, even ones who wished it hadn't happened so quickly.
** The fact that [[spoiler:Star and Marco's first kiss came while she's still dating Tom]] was immediately controversial, even if it did happen under duress. On one hand, there are a number of fans who felt that [[spoiler:the kiss was forced and that Marco looked like a jerk for making Star "cheat" on Tom. However, others point out that he had good intentions since the two of them wouldn't have been able to leave the photo booth unless such action was taken. It's also been pointed out that Tom has done worse things to Star and probably [[NotSoDifferent wouldn't have been much different]], along with Star seeming to be aware that she was still with Tom during her moment of shock afterwards. [[TakeAThirdOption There's also a third group of people -specifically the more diehard Starco shippers-]] that don't care about any of the above as long as the two finally got to kiss]].

** The fact that [[spoiler:Star and Marco's first kiss came while she's still dating Tom]] was immediately controversial, even if it did happen under duress. On one hand, there are a number of fans who felt that [[spoiler:the kiss was forced and that Marco looked like a jerk for making Star "cheat" on Tom. However, others point out that he had good intentions since the two of them wouldn't have been able to leave the photo booth unless such action was taken. It's also been pointed out that Tom has done worse things to Star and probably [[NotSoDifferent wouldn't have been much different]], along with Star seeming to be aware that she was still with Tom during her moment of shock afterwards. [[TakeAThirdOption There's also a third group of people --specifically the more diehard Starco shippers--]] that don't care about any of the above as long as the two finally got to kiss]].

** The fact that [[spoiler:Star and Marco's first kiss came while she's still dating Tom]] was immediately controversial, even if it did happen under duress. On one hand, there are a number of fans who felt that [[spoiler:the kiss was forced and that Marco looked like a jerk for making Star "cheat" on Tom. However, others point out that he had good intentions since the two of them wouldn't have been able to leave the photo booth unless such action was taken. It's also been pointed out that Tom has done worse things to Star and probably [[NotSoDifferent wouldn't have been much different]], along with Star seeming to be aware that she was still with Tom during her moment of shock afterwards. [[TakeAThirdOption There's also a third group of people]] that don't care about any of the above as long as the two finally got to kiss]].

** The fact that [[spoiler:Star and Marco's first kiss came while she's still dating Tom]] was immediately controversial, even if it did happen under duress. On one hand, there are a number of fans who felt that [[spoiler:the kiss was forced and that Marco looked like a jerk for making Star "cheat" on Tom. However, others point out that he had good intentions since the two of them wouldn't have been able to leave the photo booth unless such action was taken. Its also been pointed out that Tom has done worse things to Star and probably [[NotSoDifferent wouldn't have been much different]], along with Star seeming to be aware that she was still with Tom during her moment of shock afterwards. [[TakeAThirdOption There's also a third group of people]] that don't care about any of the above as long as the two finally got to kiss]].

** The decision to leave Earth as a setting and focus more on Mewni. Some are fine with it, feeling Earth had plenty of time in the spotlight for the first two seasons and that Mewni has large amounts of untapped potential, ranging from the Butterfly family history to the ongoing racism between Mewmans and Monsters. Others, however, feel it shafts the Earth cast outside Marco and [[AscendedExtra Janna]], and leaves potential plot threads [[LeftHanging hanging open]]. That latter group also has members who note that the separation between Earth and Mewni is completely arbitrary anyway, given that dimensional scissors (which both Star and Marco have easy access to) make travel between different worlds literally easier than walking across the street, meaning that an increased focus on Mewni never required abandoning Earth at all. In "Marco Jr.", it's revealed that [[spoiler:Marco's mom Angie is pregnant]] which leaves some promise that the show will visit Earth more often but it might not be plausible given the fact Marco hasn't contacted his parents for months not knowing about [[spoiler: his mom's pregnancy]] and the fact that he has tunnel vision focusing on being Star's squire on Mewni.

** The decision to leave Earth as a setting and focus more on Mewni. Some are fine with it, feeling Earth had plenty of time in the spotlight for the first two seasons and that Mewni has large amounts of untapped potential, ranging from the Butterfly family history to the ongoing racism between Mewmans and Monsters. Others, however, feel it shafts the Earth cast outside Marco and [[AscendedExtra Janna]], and leaves potential plot threads [[LeftHanging hanging open]]. That latter group also has members who note that the separation between Earth and Mewni is completely arbitrary anyway, given that dimensional scissors (which both Star and Marco have easy access to) make travel between different worlds literally easier than walking across the street, meaning that an increased focus on Mewni never required abandoning Earth at all.

* Between those who [[FanPreferredCouple ship Star and Marco]] and those who prefer them as PlatonicLifePartners, with the latter feeling tired and bored about the typical cliché of "the two main characters of the opposite sex who eventually fall in love and become the OfficialCouple" while the former either disagree with that reasoning or agree in principle but think that the show itself [[TropesAreTools has been executing the friends-to-lovers trope extremely well]], and that Star and Marco's chemistry more than compensates for that cliché.