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* LighterAndSofter: Compared to Transformers: Masterforce. The Victory saga is slightly more violent but the Masterforce saga has more mature themes and darker moments. Transformers: Victory is overall more comedic, with villains being relatively easier to beat (Except that low point for the Autobots between Liokaiser's and Victory Leo's initial appearances) and human casualties are almost never talked about.

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* LighterAndSofter: Compared to Transformers: Masterforce. The Victory saga is slightly more violent but the Masterforce saga has more mature themes and darker moments. Transformers: Victory is overall more child-friendly comedic, with villains being relatively easier to beat (Except that low point for the Autobots between Liokaiser's and Victory Leo's initial appearances) and human casualties are almost never talked about.
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* LighterAndSofter: Compared to Transformers: Masterforce. While Transformers: Victory still does have some dark moments, the show is overall more comedic, with villains being relatively easier to beat (There was however a low point for the Autobots between Liokaiser's and Victory Leo's initial appearances) and human casualties are almost never talked about.

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* LighterAndSofter: Compared to Transformers: Masterforce. While The Victory saga is slightly more violent but the Masterforce saga has more mature themes and darker moments. Transformers: Victory still does have some dark moments, the show is overall more comedic, with villains being relatively easier to beat (There was however a (Except that low point for the Autobots between Liokaiser's and Victory Leo's initial appearances) and human casualties are almost never talked about.
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The series main character, Star Saber and Victory Leo [[https://hasbropulse.com/products/transformers-victory-saber are getting the Haslab treatment]].
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* UnfortunateNames - Seriously... Breastforce? It's supposed to refer to the characters ''breastplates'', which transform into animal attack partners and/or weapons.

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* RealityEnsues:
** When Star Saber takes command of the Autobot forces protecting Earth, he decides to enroll Jan in school so he can be around humans his own age (up until that point, he'd grown up completely surrounded by the Autobots). This unfortunately means that the Decepticons occasionally attack the school to get at Star Saber through Jan.
*** The first time this happens, Star Saber tries to shield the school with his body and wait for Leozack to turn around. Unfortunately, his shielding attempt does nothing, as the school is wide enough that Star Saber cant shield the whole building.
** During Star Saber's meeting with the principal to finalise Jan's enrollment, the principal notes that she needs his signature on the paperwork. As Star Saber towers over the entire school, he promises to have his signature miniaturized and sent to her.
** As Hellbat (and Deathcobra) learn the hard way; if you shoot blindly at something, don't be surprised if you hit something (or someone) you really didn't mean to.
** Many of the Transformers weapons and technology are created to affect their own kin. Jan's mech that he gets later towards the end of the series is made of ordinary Earth metal, which renders it invulnerable to Transformer technology. This plays a crucial role in wrecking several Decepticon schemes and plays a vital role in the final battle.
** Deathsaurus knows about the long history of Earth and how so many Decepticon emperors failed to conquer it. Rather than try to conquer Earth, he decides to destroy the planet.
** Similarly, whenever Deathsaurus personally oversees an operation, unlike his underlings, the second it becomes obvious he has lost, he takes whatever energy he has and runs, preferring that a minor gain is better than a total loss.


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* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome:
** When Star Saber takes command of the Autobot forces protecting Earth, he decides to enroll Jan in school so he can be around humans his own age (up until that point, he'd grown up completely surrounded by the Autobots). This unfortunately means that the Decepticons occasionally attack the school to get at Star Saber through Jan.
*** The first time this happens, Star Saber tries to shield the school with his body and wait for Leozack to turn around. Unfortunately, his shielding attempt does nothing, as the school is wide enough that Star Saber cant shield the whole building.
** During Star Saber's meeting with the principal to finalise Jan's enrollment, the principal notes that she needs his signature on the paperwork. As Star Saber towers over the entire school, he promises to have his signature miniaturized and sent to her.
** As Hellbat (and Deathcobra) learn the hard way; if you shoot blindly at something, don't be surprised if you hit something (or someone) you really didn't mean to.
** Many of the Transformers weapons and technology are created to affect their own kin. Jan's mech that he gets later towards the end of the series is made of ordinary Earth metal, which renders it invulnerable to Transformer technology. This plays a crucial role in wrecking several Decepticon schemes and plays a vital role in the final battle.
** Deathsaurus knows about the long history of Earth and how so many Decepticon emperors failed to conquer it. Rather than try to conquer Earth, he decides to destroy the planet.
** Similarly, whenever Deathsaurus personally oversees an operation, unlike his underlings, the second it becomes obvious he has lost, he takes whatever energy he has and runs, preferring that a minor gain is better than a total loss.
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* RegainedMemoriesSequence: Victory Leo regaining Ginrai's memories and truly becoming his reincarnation is established when images of his past life flash on the screen.
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* DeathIsGray: [[spoiler:God Ginrai]]'s dead corpse fades to gray. The resemblance to Optimus Prime's death in [[WesternAnimation/TheTransformersTheMovie the movie]] and [[spoiler:Ginrai]]'s similarity to him is probably unintentional as said movie had not been released in Japan yet (for further proof that it is probably a coincidence rather than intentional, Wheeljack, who dies in the movie, shows up alive and well in the same episode as [[spoiler:Ginrai]] dies).


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** [[spoiler:God Ginrai]]'s dead corpse fades to gray. The resemblance to Optimus Prime's death in [[WesternAnimation/TheTransformersTheMovie the movie]] and [[spoiler:Ginrai]]'s similarity to him is probably unintentional as said movie had not been released in Japan yet (for further proof that it is probably a coincidence rather than intentional, Wheeljack, who dies in the movie, shows up alive and well in the same episode as [[spoiler:Ginrai]] dies).
** [[spoiler:Liokaiser]] gets thrown into the charging cannon of the Planet-Destroying Fortress and is drained of his energy. His now gray body helplessly floats off into space with only a cry for help to indicate any remaining signs of life.

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* BackFromTheDead - Wheeljack makes an appearance, despite being nicely toasted in TheMovie. (Probably on account of the movie not premiering in Japan until after the episode was already written).
** It was later retconned in other stories that Wheeljack learned what happened to him, thanks to the Beast Wars-era Ravage being recovered, and created a Binaltech body where he goes into hiding where a "fake" gets killed off in 2005.

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* BackFromTheDead - BackFromTheDead: Wheeljack makes an appearance, despite being nicely toasted in TheMovie. (Probably on account of the movie not premiering in Japan until after the episode was already written). \n** It was later retconned in other stories that Wheeljack learned what happened to him, thanks to the Beast Wars-era Ravage being recovered, and created a Binaltech body where he goes into hiding where a "fake" gets killed off in 2005.



* ForgotAboutHisPowers:
** Downplayed with the Decepticons' Dinoforce. The pretender shells (The dinosaurs) of the Dinoforce are seen to be moving independently of the robots. Given the conventional wisdom of greater strength in numbers, 12 members of the Dinoforce should logically overwhelm any of the Victory series' Autobot subgroups. However, the Dinoforce rarely made use of the independently-moving pretender shells in battle once their individual robot forms emerges. This can be weakly justified as the Dinoforce were portrayed as idiots throughout the whole show.

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ForgotAboutHisPowers: Downplayed with the Decepticons' Dinoforce. The pretender shells (The dinosaurs) of the Dinoforce are seen to be moving independently of the robots. Given the conventional wisdom of greater strength in numbers, 12 members of the Dinoforce should logically overwhelm any of the Victory series' Autobot subgroups. However, the Dinoforce rarely made use of the independently-moving pretender shells in battle once their individual robot forms emerges. This can be weakly justified as the Dinoforce were portrayed as idiots throughout the whole show.



* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: Deathsaurus, Killbison, etc.

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* TheStarscream - Leozack, who [[spoiler:acheives the ultimate treachery in the manga by turning the space-fortress's [[WaveMotionGun primary cannon]] on Deathsaurus while he was battling with Star Saber in the last chapter.]] In the anime, Deathsaurus was well-aware of this by trolling him. He eventually decides to make his "point" to Leozack.
** - Hellbat, who sort of acts as TheStarscream to Leozack, often trying to either sabotage or take credit for his plans.

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* TheStarscream - TheStarscream:
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Leozack, who [[spoiler:acheives the ultimate treachery in the manga by turning the space-fortress's [[WaveMotionGun primary cannon]] on Deathsaurus while he was battling with Star Saber in the last chapter.]] In the anime, Deathsaurus was well-aware of this by trolling him. He eventually decides to make his "point" to Leozack.
** - Hellbat, who sort of acts as TheStarscream to Leozack, often trying to either sabotage or take credit for his plans.



* SortingAlgorithmOfEvil: Its there, but downplayed and even subverted at times. Say what you want about how cliche some tropes can be, but the downplay/subversion of this trope actually made Transformers: Victory a little underwhelming in terms of tension.

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* SortingAlgorithmOfEvil: SortingAlgorithmOfEvil:
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** This, however, creates a ContinuitySnarl, as Wheeljack is supposed to be dead. This is a side-effect of the movie not making it to Japanese shores until the same year ''Victory'' premiered. Later material HandWaves this by stating that Wheeljack did indeed die in the movie, and that the Wheeljack seen here was a Wheeljack from the Binaltech World (this explanation was also used for Prowl's erroneous appearance in ''The Headmasters'').



* TrueCompanions: On both sides. The Autobots obviously have this, but the Decepticons have this as well, as Leozack was very upset when Deathcobra was murdered (unknowingly by Hellbat).

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On both sides. The Autobots obviously have this, but the Decepticons have this as well, as Leozack was very upset when Deathcobra was murdered (unknowingly by Hellbat).



* UnfortunateNames - Seriously... Breastforce?
** It's supposed to refer to the characters ''breastplates'', which transform into animal attack partners and/or weapons.

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* UnfortunateNames - Seriously... Breastforce?
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** It was later retconned in other stories where, thanks to Ravage, created a Binaltech body where he goes into hiding where a "fake" gets killed off in 2005.

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** It was later retconned in other stories where, that Wheeljack learned what happened to him, thanks to Ravage, the Beast Wars-era Ravage being recovered, and created a Binaltech body where he goes into hiding where a "fake" gets killed off in 2005.
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Has nothing to do with familiarity with in-universe fiction.


* GenreSavvy: In one episode, Star Saber is disguised as an unmanned human craft to expose one of the Decepticons energy schemes. Leozack is immediately suspicious of the craft, as he notes that the humans don't have the ability to make such a well crafted space vessel, and immediately tries to examine Star Saber to determine if it is actually a human vessel. He gets interrupted before he can realize who it really is.
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* WorfHadTheFlu: Writer's intentions for God Ginrai's poor showings in Transformers: Victory are obviously a case of "God Ginrai is an old toy, you should be looking out for our new toys Star Saber, Deszaras and Liokaiser!" The fans would give a plausible explanation (But technically its head canon) that God Ginrai's loss of human component significantly weakened him to the point such that he was not much better than a Transformer of his size. This explains why he couldn't beat Liokaiser on his own and why he failed to regenerate from Deszaras' weapon.

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* WorfHadTheFlu: Writer's intentions for God Ginrai's poor showings in Transformers: Victory are obviously a case of "God Ginrai is an old toy, you should be looking out for our new toys Star Saber, Deszaras and Liokaiser!" The fans would give a plausible explanation (But technically its head canon) that God Ginrai's loss of human component significantly weakened him to the point such that he was not much better than a Transformer of his size. This explains why he couldn't beat Liokaiser on his own and why he failed to regenerate from damage caused by Deszaras' weapon.
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* DarkerAndEdgier: True compared to American Transformers G1 but averted if you are comparing it with the previous series Transformers: Masterforce. Transformers: Victory would definitely be darker than most kid's American shows of its time, but that has more to do with what is acceptable to kids in Japan.

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* DarkerAndEdgier: True compared Compared to American Transformers G1 but averted if you are comparing it with G1. It is probably the previous most violent series Transformers: Masterforce. in the Transformers G1 era, on par with Transformers Zone. Transformers: Victory would definitely be is also darker than most American kid's American shows of its time, but that has more to do with what is acceptable to kids in Japan.cultural differences.
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* ForgotAboutHisPowers:
** Downplayed with the Decepticons' Dinoforce. The pretender shells (The dinosaurs) of the Dinoforce are seen to be moving independently of the robots. Given the conventional wisdom of greater strength in numbers, 12 members of the Dinoforce should logically overwhelm any of the Victory series' Autobot subgroups. However, the Dinoforce rarely made use of the independently-moving pretender shells in battle once their individual robot forms emerges. This can be weakly justified as the Dinoforce were portrayed as idiots throughout the whole show.
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* SortingAlgorithmOfEvil: Its there, but downplayed and even subverted at times. Say what you want about how cliche some tropes can be, but the downplay/subversion of this trope actually made Transformers: Victory a little underwhelming in terms of tension.
** Subversion: Star Saber defeated the BigBad Deszaras in the very first episode!
** Star Saber finally met his biggest challenge in the form of Liokaiser, and required a team-up with God Ginrai to chase off the villain. Additionally, Deszaras gets a new weapon and nearly killed Star Saber with it.
** Victory Saber's appearance warranted Deszaras' activation of the Planet Destroying Fortress... Which Victory Saber destroys in the final episode anyway.
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* GoodIsNotSoft:
** Victory Leo is the epitome of this among the Autobots, the reason being that he was the reborn God Ginrai who had trouble mentally adapting to his new body. Victory Leo lacks restraint in all his attacks and together with his massive power he was the only Autobot who demonstrated he can arguably take on Liokaiser one-on-one.
** In the series finale, when fighting Deszaras in the fortress, Star Saber loses his "soft" approach he had throughout the whole series and uses every weapon in his disposal, blinded Deszaras in one eye and finally dealt Deszaras a mortal wound by exploiting Deszaras' partial blindness.
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* FlatCharacter: For whatever reasons, in terms of characterization of the Autobots, Transformers: Victory was a huge step down from Transformers: Masterforce. All the Autobots had bland and interchangeable personalities - You can't tell the difference if any of the characters sans Star Saber swapped places. Even Star Saber himself gets the typical Autobot military leader's generic personality (Read: None). The Decepticons actually fare slightly better in terms of characterization, especially when it comes to Hellbat, Leozack, and Deszaras. The saving grace for the Autobots was Victory Leo who had an episode of character development dedicated to him, but by then the show was gradually gearing up to the final confrontation.

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* FlatCharacter: For whatever reasons, in terms of characterization of the Autobots, Transformers: Victory was a huge step down from Transformers: Masterforce. All Almost all the Autobots had bland and interchangeable personalities - You can't tell the difference if any of the characters sans Star Saber swapped places. Even Star Saber himself gets the typical Autobot military leader's generic personality (Read: None). The Decepticons actually fare slightly better in terms of characterization, especially when it comes to Hellbat, Leozack, and Deszaras. The saving grace for the Autobots was Victory Leo who had an episode of character development dedicated to him, but by then the show was gradually gearing up to the final confrontation.

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* CombiningMecha - how the cast herds are divided, with the above-mentioned teams, as well as the Dino Force, the Breastforce (who carry chest-mounted miniature attack robots that could transform into weapons), and the Multi Force, made of 6 Autobots who could combine in three pairs or into a single massive combiner named Landcross.
* DarkerAndEdgier: Subverted. It would definitely be darker than most kid's shows, but that has more to do with what is acceptable to kids in Japan. It is definitely lighter than the previous series Transformers: Masterforce.
* DemotedToExtra - God Ginrai, the mechanical component of ''Masterforce'''s hero, and before that, the body of Optimus Prime, spends most of his time fighting Decepticons in other sectors (i.e. off-camera) and only appears to be destroyed and turned into what Transfans sarcastically label "a backpack and a pair of boots"- Star Saber's MidSeasonUpgrade.

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* CombiningMecha - how CharacterDevelopment: Victory Leo was the only Transformer in this series who had any significant moment of character development and he's arguably the only Autobot with just the slightest hint of personality to boot. In his debut, the Autobots who were weakened at that point in time were forced to let him run wild against Dinoking. After witnessing Victory Leo's fearsome power but lack of restraint, Star Saber decided to give him another mission with Jan and Holi accompanying so that Victory Leo would remember the need for compassion.
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the cast herds are divided, with the above-mentioned teams, as well as the Dino Force, the Breastforce (who carry chest-mounted miniature attack robots that could transform into weapons), and the Multi Force, made of 6 Autobots who could combine in three pairs or into a single massive combiner named Landcross.
* DarkerAndEdgier: Subverted. It True compared to American Transformers G1 but averted if you are comparing it with the previous series Transformers: Masterforce. Transformers: Victory would definitely be darker than most kid's shows, American shows of its time, but that has more to do with what is acceptable to kids in Japan. It is definitely lighter than the previous series Transformers: Masterforce.
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* DemotedToExtra - DemotedToExtra: God Ginrai, the mechanical component of ''Masterforce'''s hero, and before that, the body of Optimus Prime, spends most of his time fighting Decepticons in other sectors (i.e. off-camera) and only appears to be destroyed and turned into what Transfans sarcastically label "a backpack and a pair of boots"- Star Saber's MidSeasonUpgrade.
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* FlatCharacter: For whatever reasons, in terms of characterization of the Autobots, Transformers: Victory was a huge step down from Transformers: Masterforce. All the Autobots had bland and interchangeable personalities - You can't tell the difference if any of the characters sans Star Saber swapped places. Even Star Saber himself gets the typical Autobot military leader's generic personality (Read: None). The Decepticons actually fare slightly better in terms of characterization, especially when it comes to Hellbat, Leozack, and Deszaras.

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* FlatCharacter: For whatever reasons, in terms of characterization of the Autobots, Transformers: Victory was a huge step down from Transformers: Masterforce. All the Autobots had bland and interchangeable personalities - You can't tell the difference if any of the characters sans Star Saber swapped places. Even Star Saber himself gets the typical Autobot military leader's generic personality (Read: None). The Decepticons actually fare slightly better in terms of characterization, especially when it comes to Hellbat, Leozack, and Deszaras. The saving grace for the Autobots was Victory Leo who had an episode of character development dedicated to him, but by then the show was gradually gearing up to the final confrontation.



* KnightOfCerebus: Liokaiser. His first appearance has him nearly kill Star Saber, and every time he appears, the Decepticons either win outright, or achieve their objectives, and he is played completely straight. Case in point, after his debut, the comedy the Breastforce give drops, though they still have some individually, and most of it goes to the Dinoforce.

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* KnightOfCerebus: Liokaiser. His first appearance has him nearly kill Star Saber, and every time he appears, the Decepticons either win outright, or achieve their objectives, and he is played completely straight. Case in point, after his debut, the comedy the Breastforce give drops, though they still have some individually, and most of it goes to the Dinoforce. The Autobots regained their edge against the Decepticons when Victory Leo (And subsequently Victory Saber) appears, but by then the Decepticons had succeeded gaining the energy they need to reactivate their Fortress.
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* LighterAndSofter: While the series does have some dark moments, the show is much more comedic, with the villains being more easy to beat, and human casualties are never talked about. It is much more lighter than Masterforce, which had an omnicidal monster as its main antagonist, with the killing of humans occurring more explicitly and frequently.

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* LighterAndSofter: Compared to Transformers: Masterforce. While the series Transformers: Victory still does have some dark moments, the show is much overall more comedic, with the villains being more easy relatively easier to beat, beat (There was however a low point for the Autobots between Liokaiser's and Victory Leo's initial appearances) and human casualties are almost never talked about. It is much more lighter than Masterforce, which had an omnicidal monster as its main antagonist, with the killing of humans occurring more explicitly and frequently.about.
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* DarkerAndEdgier: Subverted. It would definitely be darker than most kid shows, but that has more to do with what is acceptable to kids in Japan, but it is a lot more lighter than the previous series.

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* DarkerAndEdgier: Subverted. It would definitely be darker than most kid kid's shows, but that has more to do with what is acceptable to kids in Japan, but it Japan. It is a lot more definitely lighter than the previous series.series Transformers: Masterforce.
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* FlatCharacter: For whatever reasons, in terms of characterization of the Autobots, Transformers: Victory was a huge step down from Transformers: Masterforce. All the Autobots had bland and interchangeable personalities - You can't tell the difference if any of the characters sans Star Saber swapped places. Even Star Saber himself gets the typical Autobot military leader's generic personality (Read: None). The Decepticons actually fare slightly better in terms of characterization, especially when it comes to Hellbat, Leozack, and Deszaras.

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* HeroOfAnotherStory: God Ginrai, the main character of Transformers: Masterforce, was featured a few times in the series either as a cameo or helping out Star Saber... Until he received a mortal injury from Deszaras.



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* YearsTooEarlyTheWorfEffect: This was invoked with God Ginrai's appearances. God Ginrai is the main character of Transformers: Masterforce. He is the most powerful Godmaster and the Godmasters themselves are purportedly the most powerful variant of Transformers ever portrayed. However in Transformers: Victory, he and Star Saber barely held off Liokaiser (Unsurprisingly, since the show is advertising Liokaiser as the new toy). On another occasion, God Ginrai returns to rescue Star Saber (again) but was mortally wounded by Deszaras' weapon as a result. This is arguably a case of WorfHadTheFlu.
* WorfHadTheFlu: Writer's intentions for God Ginrai's poor showings in Transformers: Victory are obviously a case of "God Ginrai is an old toy, you should be looking out for our new toys Star Saber, Deszaras and Liokaiser!" The fans would give a plausible explanation (But technically its head canon) that God Ginrai's loss of human component significantly weakened him to the point such that he was not much better than a Transformer of his size. This explains why he couldn't beat Liokaiser on his own and why he failed to regenerate from Deszaras' weapon.
* YearsTooEarly: Stock insult.
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* AloofAlly: Greatshot

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* AloofAlly: GreatshotGreatshot, who continued the Japanese Transformers G1 "tradition" of writing Sixchangers with some sense of honor. He was later retconned to be a reformed Sixshot of Transformers: Headmasters.
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* GenreSavvy: In one episode, Star Saber is disguised as an unmanned human craft to expose one of the Decepticons energy schemes. Leozack is immediately suspicious of the craft, as he notes that the humans don't have the ability to make such a well crafted space vessel, and immediately tries to examine Star Saber to determine if it is actually a human vessel. He gets interrupted before he can realize who it really is.
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* PetTheDog:
** Deathsaurus is well aware that Leozack is going to try to usurp him, but when Goryu questions Leozack's orders in the second episode, Deathsaurus subtly intimidates Goryu to comply with Leozack's command.
** Deathsaurus also seems to have a genuine appreciation of Hellbat and Drillhorn's skills, in that he rarely gets mad at them directly and actually compliments them for their actions multiple times.
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* KnightOfCerebus: Liokaiser. His first appearance has him nearly kill Star Saber, and every time he appears, the Decepticons either win outright, or achieve their objectives, and he is played completely straight. Case in point, after his debut, the comedy the Breastforce give drops, though they still have some individually, and most of it goes to the Dinoforce.
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* DarkerAndEdgier: Subverted. It would definitely be darker than most kid shows, but that has more to do with what is acceptable to kids in Japan, but it is a lot more lighter than the previous series.


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* LighterAndSofter: While the series does have some dark moments, the show is much more comedic, with the villains being more easy to beat, and human casualties are never talked about. It is much more lighter than Masterforce, which had an omnicidal monster as its main antagonist, with the killing of humans occurring more explicitly and frequently.

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* BadBoss: Deathsaurus proceeds to furiously berate his subordinates frequently, going so far as to nearly kill Leozack in a fit of rage.



* NeverMyFault: Deathsaurus blames Leozack for the failure of his missile scheme, completely ignoring that he was the one that misjudged Star Saber's speed, and completely ignored his minions attempt to explain his unification with Victory Leo.



* RealityEnsues: When Star Saber takes command of the Autobot forces protecting Earth, he decides to enroll Jan in school so he can be around humans his own age (up until that point, he'd grown up completely surrounded by the Autobots). This unfortunately means that the Decepticons occasionally attack the school to get at Star Saber through Jan.

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When Star Saber takes command of the Autobot forces protecting Earth, he decides to enroll Jan in school so he can be around humans his own age (up until that point, he'd grown up completely surrounded by the Autobots). This unfortunately means that the Decepticons occasionally attack the school to get at Star Saber through Jan.Jan.
*** The first time this happens, Star Saber tries to shield the school with his body and wait for Leozack to turn around. Unfortunately, his shielding attempt does nothing, as the school is wide enough that Star Saber cant shield the whole building.



** Many of the Transformers weapons and technology are created to affect their own kin. Jan's mech that he gets later towards the end of the series is made of ordinary Earth metal, which renders it invulnerable to Transformer technology. This plays a crucial role in wrecking several Decepticon schemes and plays a vital role in the final battle.
** Deathsaurus knows about the long history of Earth and how so many Decepticon emperors failed to conquer it. Rather than try to conquer Earth, he decides to destroy the planet.
** Similarly, whenever Deathsaurus personally oversees an operation, unlike his underlings, the second it becomes obvious he has lost, he takes whatever energy he has and runs, preferring that a minor gain is better than a total loss.



* StockFootage - Used a lot, particularly Star Saber's transformation sequence and the Breastforce combining into Liokaiser. One episode used ''two'' transformation shots from Star Saber and an Autobot named Gratshot.

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* TheSociopath: Guyhawk easily fits the bill.
* StockFootage - Used a lot, particularly Star Saber's transformation sequence and the Breastforce combining into Liokaiser. One episode used ''two'' transformation shots from Star Saber and an Autobot named Gratshot.Greatshot.



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* ToyShip: Jan and his classmate Illumina are obviously smitten with each other, to the point Jan asks her permission to name his own mech Illumina II in her honour.
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* ToyShip: Jan and his classmate Illumina are obviously smitten with each other, to the point Jan asks her permission to name his own mech Illumina II in her honour.
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** This, however, creates a ContinuitySnarl, as Wheeljack is supposed to be dead. This is a side-effect of the movie not making it to Japanese shores until the same year ''Victory'' premiered.

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** This, however, creates a ContinuitySnarl, as Wheeljack is supposed to be dead. This is a side-effect of the movie not making it to Japanese shores until the same year ''Victory'' premiered. Later material HandWaves this by stating that Wheeljack did indeed die in the movie, and that the Wheeljack seen here was a Wheeljack from the Binaltech World (this explanation was also used for Prowl's erroneous appearance in ''The Headmasters'').

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* HonorBeforeReaon: As Victory Saber held the Dinoforce dead-to-rights, Goryu requests Saber to cut him, and only him, down so his men can be spared, to the protest of the other Dinoforce members. Victory Saber then decides to spare all of them, showing the compassion and allowing the Dinoforce to heal.
* KickTheDog: Deathsaurus abounding the Dinosaur force to get swept beneath the waves when Atlantis sinks, despite their loyalty to him. It comes back to bite him later.
* KidAppealCharacter- Holi and his rescue team.
* MidSeasonUpgrade - Star Saber becomes Victory Saber
* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast - Deathsaurus, Killbison, etc.

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* HonorBeforeReaon: HonorBeforeReason: As Victory Saber held the Dinoforce dead-to-rights, Goryu requests Saber to cut him, and only him, down so his men can be spared, to the protest of the other Dinoforce members. Victory Saber then decides to spare all of them, showing the compassion and allowing the Dinoforce to heal.
* KickTheDog: Deathsaurus abounding the Dinosaur force Dinoforce to get swept beneath the waves when Atlantis sinks, despite their loyalty to him. It comes back to bite him later.
* KidAppealCharacter- KidAppealCharacter: Holi and his rescue team.
* MidSeasonUpgrade - KnowWhenToFoldEm: Deathsaurus is very good at this, and often retreats with whatever energy he already has in his possession rather than risk all of it fighting the Autobots. It's part of the reason he actually succeeds in his ultimate goal and reactivates his Planet Destroying Fortress.
* LargeAndInCharge: Both Star Saber and Deathsaurus are combiner-sized, meaning they tower over their subordinates. Star Saber at least has a lesser form known as Saber, which is closer to the size of an average Transformer.
* MidSeasonUpgrade:
Star Saber becomes Victory Saber
* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast - NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: Deathsaurus, Killbison, etc.etc.
** The Planet Destroying Fortress, natch.



* OrcusOnHisThrone: Unlike many of his predecessors, Deathsaurus is generally content to let his minions do the heavy lifting and rarely takes to the field personally.



* RealityEnsues: When Star Saber takes command of the Autobot forces protecting Earth, he decides to enroll Jan in school so he can be around humans his own age (up until that point, he'd grown up completely surrounded by the Autobots). This unfortunately means that the Decepticons occasionally attack the school to get at Star Saber through Jan.
** During Star Saber's meeting with the principal to finalise Jan's enrollment, the principal notes that she needs his signature on the paperwork. As Star Saber towers over the entire school, he promises to have his signature miniaturized and sent to her.
** As Hellbat (and Deathcobra) learn the hard way; if you shoot blindly at something, don't be surprised if you hit something (or someone) you really didn't mean to.



* TechnologyPorn

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* TechnologyPornTechnologyPorn: The way the Planet Destroying Fortress' systems slowly come back online with pinpricks of light is beautiful.



* ToyShip: Jan and his classmate Illumina are obviously smitten with each other, to the point Jan asks her permission to name his own mech Illumina II in her honour.



* TransformingMecha - Well, obviously.
* TrueCompanions - On both sides. The Autobots obviously have this, but the Decepticons have this as well, as Leozack was very upset when Deathcobra was murdered (unknowingly by Hellbat).

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* TransformingMecha - TransformingMecha: Well, obviously.
* TrueCompanions - TrueCompanions: On both sides. The Autobots obviously have this, but the Decepticons have this as well, as Leozack was very upset when Deathcobra was murdered (unknowingly by Hellbat).Hellbat).
** After Guyhawk was rescued by the Breastforce, the next episode had them warmly welcome him back.

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