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MikeShogunLee
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07:05:29 PM Mar 23rd 2017
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  • Ambiguously Gay:
    • Arygyn the Skeelur.
    • Piper is a more subtle example. Cyclonis less so.

Wasn't there some Ship Teasing between Piper and Aerrow? I know she rejected him, "to preserve their friendship," but I thought the Will Theyor Wont They was still going? It has been along time sense I saw it, but Wouldn't that put Piper in the Ambiguously Bi category?
secretlyasuperhero
08:42:17 PM Mar 23rd 2017
Piper and Aerrow get serious Ship Tease, so i would say that that puts Piper in Ambiguously Bi, yes.
MikeShogunLee
10:06:38 PM Mar 23rd 2017
edited by MikeShogunLee
I just watched this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scNN3MJ9ZX0

But this is starting to feel like a YMMV, rather than an established trope.

The strongest piece of evidence of her having any interest in Girls, is her interactions with Starling, and it can be argued that she is simply Star Struck.

I am asking because this might be Ship-to-Ship Combat, as I used to ship Aerrow and Piper back in the day. So I can not guarantee my opinion is objective.
Twiddler
03:38:12 PM Mar 24th 2017
I know she rejected him, "to preserve their friendship,"

No idea what this is referring to.

I dunno if I'd say Aerrow and Piper were Ship Teased. I don't think there's anything contradicting that reading or a platonic reading. I saw them as platonic, but I can see how certain scenes could be taken a different way, too. That's why I listed them as Implied Love Interest.

On Piper liking girls, there were a couple Ho Yay moments with her in season 2 (not included in that video) that seemed pretty intentional to me.note  On the other hand, the Ho Yay reading of these scenes works without her actually being into girls.note 
MikeShogunLee
08:14:59 PM Mar 24th 2017
edited by MikeShogunLee
"Rejected him to preserve their friendship"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vgy77m5evTE

And I might not have seen the show in awhile, BUT THERE WAS DEFINITELY SHIP-TEASE

While Royal Twist does have Does This Remind You of Anything I would not say this is evidence for Sexuality, more than likely a joke. Strongest evidence for Pipers interest in women is her interactions with Starling, and disguised Cyclonis.

Speaking of Cyclonis, if you can think of any evidence for her interest in women, please share. I would like to add them to the Ambiguously Gay trope on the main page.
Twiddler
01:59:02 PM Mar 27th 2017
edited by Twiddler
That video's an edit. Check the description and comments.

All I can think of is the stuff listed on Heartwarming.Storm Hawks (I just added one myself, actually) and their scene together at the end of Storm Warning, but none of that need be taken as romantic. Now if there was, say... blushing, accidentally brushing hands, people mistaking them as a couple, that's the kind of thing that paints a clearer picture of the story's intent. Edit: Oh! And their scene at the end of Stratosphere. Hmm... okay, I can see that one, in a subtext kind of way. Still, not sure that's enough.

Yes! doesthisremindyouofanything, that's the trope! "Strongest evidence for..." Agreed, but the stuff I mentioned, since it seems intentional, does cast it in a different light... unless of course, they hadn't intended to write her that way from the start but decided to play with it in response to fan reception, which I can also see, given the naked Stork scene in Stratosphere which could be seen as fanservice in response to his reception by the female fanbase. But I really don't know anything about the production cycle of the show, whether the time frame would have allowed for that or if those scenes would have already been written in advance.

Cyclonis... I think she's even more subtexty than Piper. All I can think of is the food-on-face scene from "Masked Masher". I don't think I'd list her as an example, personally.
MikeShogunLee
01:27:04 AM Mar 30th 2017
edited by MikeShogunLee
Okay, then we leave it as Ambiguously Bi. And add a Does This Remind Youof Anything, later early for me, but add it nonetheless. While I do like Cyclonis and Piper, I still ship Aerrow and Piper. Hense why I am asking all this, I can guarantee that my opinion is not biased.
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