Webcomic Drowtales Discussion

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11:31:21 AM Dec 25th 2015
The first paragraph uses "the last few years." As of when? If this is still in effect, could someone use "Since 20XX", and if it's not, could someone use "from 20XX to 20XX"?
03:41:26 AM Oct 9th 2012
Just want to say the new picture looks awesome and I think it's been a long time coming.
03:11:35 PM Feb 10th 2012
Should we update the page image for Drowtales? Now that we have reached the timeskip and Ariel is much older, should we replace the image with the one of the Sarghress alliance?
04:32:46 AM Dec 3rd 2011
edited by Camacan
The following tropes need details. Please see How to Write an Example for more.

This one depends on an external link to make sense. We don't do that.

Here we have some natter that may be correct but it's a matter of Repair, Don't Respond.

  • Actually, Chirinide almost certainly isn't: while almost all Drowolath, even second generations, have white hair, Drowussu hair keeps more of its pigment. Chirinide has yellow eyes and blond hair. It's also likely that Shimi'lande's hair color is natural. Other Drowussu characters with darker hair (Ky'ovarde, for example), not so much.

This may be correct, but the trope is quite exacting: the failures need to be essentially impossible, yet they happen. Needs more details.
  • Epic Fail: Oh God, Syphile... her whole life is basically this trope though she does get a moment of awesome right before her death.

This needs a re-write. Fan response doesn't go in the article. Such Les Yay Shipping goes on the YMMV tab. The objective trope is not shipping, it's playing with a homoerotic subtext without making the characters homosexual. This could be happening, but we need details, not external links, and correct Example Indentation, while ditching the Thread Mode.

  • Les Yay: Fans have often speculated that (name any female same-gender friendly relationship in the comic) are more than just friends. The fact that there is a fan-service sub comic that adds Fetish Fuel to the fire doesn't help things.
    • The original chapters were much more explicit about this.
    • Doesn't HELP? Correction, my friend: it doesn't 'hurt'.
    • Not to mention that Quain'tana/Ash'waren has been teased to Hell and back, with a (partially-canon) Daydream story focusing on them and a recent scene that nearly made the fandom implode with Squee! to the point that it's pretty much agreed to be canon.
    • As of 6/2/2010 Kiel and Naal of all people got their own Les Yay moment. Just look at this page and the following ones.

11:16:29 AM Apr 12th 2011
Just FYI that I changed the phrasing under Grand Theft Me since it originally said "keeled over" which in American English means "to pass out or die suddenly." I'm pretty sure that's not what was meant, so I changed it to "gave in" which I think was the intended meaning.
11:22:41 PM Mar 1st 2011
edited by SquigPie
It seems that the comic has quite a large Hatedom, mostly composed of a certain Imageboard's Traditional Games section. Seems the hate is mostly related to the "Only drow have ever invented anything and noone else have ever, nor will ever be as good as the drow".

Anyway: see here for more (may be NSFW.
01:53:14 AM Feb 26th 2011
Picture links need to be redone. Many of the links now links to comic pages which are unrelated to what they were supposed to be pointing to.
02:09:03 PM Apr 18th 2010
I did a slight edit to the bit about Pacing Problems, since while there is indeed some Missed Moment of Awesome moments, some chapters go on for a very long time (chapter 12 in particular has 90 pages), and there has been a concentrated effort for the more recent chapters to concentrate the story into fewer pages.
06:32:59 PM Apr 19th 2010
That looks fine. I tend to to end up in the Gushing About Writing You Like category anyway. :P And yes, the long chapters were very wearying on the artists. All in all I'm in favour of the shorter chapters. I think there are some pacing problems and that it can show events in a "smoother" order sometimes, but in general I like it a lot. ;)
12:43:27 PM Apr 17th 2010
Edited the main blurb for the page in an effort to detail the meta history better and give a clear picture of what it is about. However, I'd like other opinions on how it reads for you and if there's any redundant or unecessary parts that should be taken out, or something that should be put it.
02:15:47 PM Apr 17th 2010
Looks good to me, though I may do a small grammar fix here or there. Expanding it certainly does help understand things like the Continuity Snarl.
06:01:14 AM Apr 16th 2010
edited by Katsuhagi
I added the power level/dominance entry to Game-Breaker rather than Canon Sue because the fae lack the perfection/'never makes a mistake' of a Sue Trope, they're just (considerably) more powerful/higher in the food chain.
06:03:27 AM Apr 16th 2010
This may be a good idea.
06:06:39 AM Apr 16th 2010
I'd agree with that. You can certainly make the case for Game-Breaker, but I thought Canon Sue was a bit too much especially considering that the dark elves were more or less responsible for their own destruction (and are implied to have even cracked one of the moons open).
06:14:20 AM Apr 16th 2010
Actually, I could add that they're a bit like Jerkass Gods to the bit about them being like Greek or Norse gods, so Made of Win to whoever came up with that comparison.
03:06:49 PM Apr 16th 2010
I also just took out the Humans Are Special since it was redundant with Puny Earthlings and Game-Breaker, not to mention being a natter target.
12:40:39 PM Apr 17th 2010
edited by suntiger745
That's works well I think. I hadn't thought of the Jerkass Gods angle, but it fits. ;)

I agree that Humans Are Special could be removed, since there also are an Our Elves Are Better entry in a secondary topic. Perhaps it should be moved to it's own main entry on the page, with a nod to the Jerkass Gods.
07:10:02 AM Apr 20th 2010
I also axed the Draco in Leather Pants (which I originally added) since it was covered on Evil Is Sexy and was turning into a natter fest. I'm mostly trying to keep there from being too much redundant information and cut down on the natter, which tropes like that tend to attract and is best left to the forum.
07:58:45 PM Mar 16th 2010
So hey, I just noticed, but in the article we reference both Black and Grey Morality as well as Grey and Grey Morality (and not in a "viewers interpretation" sort of way). In the interests of clarity we need to pick one, but I'm not sure which to use. I prefer Grey and Grey myself, especially as I think the Black and Grey was added before the Grey and Grey option existed, but I don't just want to change it and spark an Edit War. Any thoughts?
08:33:26 PM Mar 16th 2010
I think it's more Grey and Grey Morality at this point. I think the thought behind the Black and Grey Morality had to do with the Sharen sisters since they're the closest thing to a Big Bad in the series so far, but even they seem to have their reasons, so I approve the change.
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