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DRCEQ
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04:50:30 PM Feb 4th 2014
"You can give tips to certain NPCs that do services for you to make them happier. There's no indication that this benefits you in any way, so this trope would have to apply for you to do it in the first place. As it turns out, the chances of encountering Shiny Pokémon get higher the more you tip people."

Has this EVER been actually statistically confirmed? this whole rumor has been floating around the page ever since the game came out.
FlamingoKai
12:34:10 AM Feb 17th 2014
As far as I know, it is not confirmed. That's why it's in the Urban Legend of Zelda entry in Trivia.
Larkmarn
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12:08:32 PM Jan 30th 2014
Regarding the edit war under Broken Streak, I think this wording is the best:
  • Whenever a region has a Rock-type gym, it's the first one the player faces. For the first time, the region's Rock Gym Leader is NOT the first badge acquired, but the second.

The current wording (and the initial wording) is less clear that it is only referring to games that have Rock gyms.
DRCEQ
12:26:34 PM Jan 30th 2014
edited by 97.91.67.16
So let me get this straight. The reasoning for including that entry is because the Johto and Unova regions don't even HAVE a Rock gym, so they don't count at all?

The fact that there isn't a Rock gym in those regions until at least the post-game should only prove that this entry can't apply because there have already been two games that broke that tradition of having a Rock gym as the first on your adventure.

OK, yes, I would agree that the above wording- pointing out ONLY the games that actually have rock type gyms and not the entire franchise- makes sense. That doesn't mean the entry applies to this trope for the franchise though.
crazysamaritan
12:54:00 PM Jan 30th 2014
I just read Broken Streak, and since the work Pokémon X and Y is the example, the trope shouldn't even be present on the page at all. It is, at best, a meta-example, and applies to the Pokémon videogame series, rather than X and Y specifically.
FlamingoKai
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11:58:19 PM Jan 8th 2014
edited by 203.177.9.21
Improbable Power Discrepancy: The Battle Maison is a post-game facility that only people who have beaten the Pokémon League can enter. The trainer classes that can be fought include butlers, tourists and preschoolers. Some of them even have legendaries.

I suppose the Battle Institute and Maison is like a game show that only allows challengers who have beaten the Pokemon League to challenge. They let people from all walks of life try their luck to beat the challenger. (Perhaps there's a monetary reward for doing so, which is why they try so hard.) The protagonist is likely supposed to be THAT GOOD, since they are expected to get a huge streak, before their streak is cut short by their own mistakes, luck on the opponents ("hax"), or by the most likely of trainers to beat them, the more seasoned and "pro" Veterans and Chatelaines with their legendaries.
KarjamP
02:08:58 PM Jan 10th 2014
edited by 41.132.74.245
Still counts as an example, due to the fact that trainer classes like Preschoolers aren't usually known to have Pokémon that powerful (or even legendaries, for that matter).
FlamingoKai
06:21:03 PM Jan 15th 2014
edited by 203.177.9.21
Well I wasn't trying to argue removal of the entry. As far as I know it's still there. I was just putting up a WMG type thing.

Only Veterans and Battle Chatelaines have legendaries, though. Preschoolers and Lass trainers (for example) generally field weaker Pokemon compared to Ace Trainers, for example; and they kind of appear a lot less after the 30th win.
DRCEQ
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03:06:51 PM Jan 2nd 2014
Someone care to explain to me the irony of a cotton candy pokemon knowing surf? Ok, yeah, cotton candy dissolves when wet. How is that ironic? It's not like Fairy pokemon have a weakness to water, and there's no indication anywhere in the Pokemon universe that suggests that Swirlix would die if it touches water. I don't see the irony of that.
KarjamP
09:42:46 AM Jan 8th 2014
The irony is the fact that Swirlix is based upon Cotton Candy.
DRCEQ
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02:34:11 PM Dec 29th 2013
Chekhov's Hobby: Zigzagged. While it's stated in the beginning that the player's mom is a former Rhyhorn racer, there's no indication that that the player is any good at it. Later, however, it seems he or she can at least ride one, as he's able to handle one Route 9 rather easily. (This isn't the only time you get to ride a Pokémon in the game, and it might not be the first, but it will be the first one you can steer, and there's no real trick to it; you get the idea that mom might have given him or her pointers.)

I really don't agree with this trope. I find the writing to be somewhat subjective, and I think since that the NPC you talk to at the start of each area tells you that you can only cross via Rhyhorn or Mamoswine, it'd be safe to assume that he tells that to EVERY traveler. Since there's no evidence or suggetions in the game that your mother gives you any tips on riding pokemon, that can't really apply.
FlamingoKai
07:25:42 PM Jan 8th 2014
I suppose the game doesn't say: 1. The protagonist is good at it. 2. The protagonist rides Pokemon as a hobby.

Besides, the riding sequences don't show in any way that the protagonist is better than the average rider, so I agree it doesn't really apply.
FlamingoKai
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04:56:28 PM Dec 16th 2013
With the 1.2 Patch, I noticed some things about the Elite Four when I replayed the game from scratch on my other cart. Can anyone confirm these? 1. Malva's antagonistic dialogue is removed, she is no longer: annoyed with you, wants to burn you where you stand, and call you a runt. Instead, she says she is busy and she's a Holo Caster star. 2. Siebold has been nerfed to 1 Full Restore rather than the 2 Full Restores everyone else has. Probable reason: My God that Gyarados. Even overleveling it by 10, it was really scary.
FlamingoKai
02:48:46 AM Jan 16th 2014
Wow, I think they also removed some of the getting crap past the radar moments. Like the "My Emolga wants to shock your Dedenne" line. I tried going back, reloading, flying out, but no matter how much I walked past the lovers they will always use the "My Emolga wants to be with your Dedenne forever" line. I'll try again.
FlamingoKai
08:58:09 PM Jan 27th 2014
Update: Ok, I saw the shock your dedenne comment again. Maybe it only happens during sunset (8-9pm)?
ZeniTheWonder
09:16:50 PM Feb 5th 2014
On the Malva thing- she's less antagonistic the first time you beat her. Was it your first time beating her? I beat the Elite Four the first time long before the patch came out and she never said the line about burning you and talked about being a busy Holo Caster star. I think it changes after you find out about her being formerly with Team Flare in the Looker Bureau subplot.
Schezoroark
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03:21:43 PM Nov 19th 2013
edited by 66.214.163.6
So I was told that the art in the Lumiose Museum features art from the TCG:

One of the pictures in the museum (taken from an LP video) http://imgur.com/J3vAJso

The card in question: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Fossil_Excavator_(Mysterious_Treasures_111)

Where would that fall under?
FlamingoKai
04:57:35 PM Dec 16th 2013
Probably Mythology Gag, but you can point out the Lazy Artist trope too in that entry.
FlamingoKai
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07:13:57 PM Oct 30th 2013
I removed the Schizo Tech entry because even in Real Life, paper maps still exist and are still being used even with GPS. In addition, the X/Y Pokedex Does have a habitat map. Just Wiki Magic it back if it feels appropriate.

Archive:
  • Schizo Tech: Despite having advance technology like a holographic communicator, your character is still given a paper map and all it does is tell you where all the towns are. This is a step down from Black & White 2 where the pokedex functioned as a habitat list as well as a map.

DRCEQ
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08:00:25 AM Oct 29th 2013
edited by 209.94.191.126
I removed the And I Must Scream entry because the story in X never shows, implies, or confirms that Lysandre obtained immortality. Furthermore, Professor Sycamore confims he survived.
LastationLover5000
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02:56:56 PM Oct 23rd 2013
So, I recently just saw there are only seven boxes in-game, while we usually have them in the double digits. I think Game Freak intentionally did this, so, to store too many Pokemon, you'll be required to use the Pokemon Bank. What trope would this fall under?
NonoRobot
03:52:38 PM Oct 23rd 2013
None, because you're wrong. You can unlock up to 31 boxes. Just fill up your boxes with at least one pokémon, and the rest will be unlocked (though, if you want to unlock boxes after the 15th, you'll need to beat the Ligue).
DRCEQ
04:57:43 PM Oct 23rd 2013
Nono is right. The same thing happens in the previous games. In Black and White 2, you only start with 10, which grows to about 17 when you fill up 8 or 9 of them, and then it can grow even more than that.
Schezoroark
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02:36:01 PM Oct 16th 2013
Would this fall under Call Back? (This is my blog btw.) Someone knows who Hiker Andy is.

http://schezoroark.tumblr.com/post/64237329694/very-funny-gamefreak
DRCEQ
05:00:26 PM Oct 16th 2013
I think that is more of a Continuity Nod, as might be the reference to Colress in Geosenge Town.... but I don't know when this game takes place in the continuity, since all of them are kinda hazy about that.
FlamingoKai
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12:54:53 AM Oct 16th 2013
edited by 203.177.9.21
I wanna add All Deaths Final as a trope for Pokemon X/Y as representative of the main universe core games. Does it fit?

1. This is the first time (?) a non-Ghost Pokemon came back from the dead. And it took the lives of a lot of other Pokemon. 2. If it even counts, considering the way people come Back from the Dead or Ret Gone are usually in Pokemon Mystery Dungeon AND require truly godly powers to do so 3. Ash's "death" in the first movie doesn't count, since it's the anime?
Schezoroark
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04:25:47 PM Oct 15th 2013
Hey guys, can anyone confirm if using Roar/Whirlwind in the wild causes a battle to end? It fails if the wild Pokemon does it (No more wasted effort, THANK ARCEUS.), but what about the other way around?
FlamingoKai
12:40:12 AM Oct 16th 2013
edited by 203.177.9.21
I'll try to check later outside of office, I have Dragon Tail on my Steelix.

Prior to Gen 6, that's how it used to work and it was guaranteed even when your Pokemon is slower than the wild encounter (which can cause running to fail).

EDIT: Battle does not end with Dragon Tail. Strangely not against Sliggoo (I think it has an ability that doesn't allow fleeing?) But anyway, its description says battle ends. Is it a bug?

EDIT 2: Also hit Weepinbell with it and battle didn't end.
KarjamP
09:48:46 AM Jan 8th 2014
Since generation 5, Roar would only work if the opponent Pokémon's at least one level below yours. It would fail if the opponent Pokémon's the same level as yours or higher.
CabbitGirlEmi
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03:57:12 PM Sep 13th 2013
I wish everybody would stop talking about the idea of Ruby and Sapphire remakes; they are NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
CaptainSlag
10:01:43 AM Oct 2nd 2013
Never say never, while it's sure as hell not happening at the moment it will eventually happen due to lack of GBA connectivity in the 3DS hardware. What most people tend to forget is that a major reason FR/LG and HG/SS happened was because the GBA and DS lacked the ability to transfer the GBC pokemon over to the later versions. Now that 3DS models phase out GBA completely combined with a newer generation of fans who can't get those games now (Without shelling out hundreds of dollars on Ebay or Amazon for a copy or playing it via emulator) means that somewhere down the road Gamefreak will most likely do a remake of R/S/E. That and the Mega Evolution will definitely expand soon enough and a remake will be perfect to add more to that.
KarjamP
02:25:34 AM Oct 30th 2013
It IS possible to get Pokemon from the GBA games here, though.

To do that, migrate to a fourth gen game, then to the fifth gen game, and then use the Poke Transfer app that comes with Pokemon Bank to transfer it to your game.
DRCEQ
04:08:05 AM Oct 30th 2013
^ Yeah but that won't happen until the Poke Bank is released in late December.
homogenized
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11:59:26 PM Aug 22nd 2013
edited by 216.99.32.42
I don't see it. What about X/Y is Animal Crossing-like, other than the superficial, not-exclusive-to-nor-codified-by-Animal-Crossing things like player customization?
KarjamP
09:50:12 AM Jan 8th 2014
It was a Zero-Context Example anyway.
Larkmarn
10:17:47 AM Jan 8th 2014
Not to mention the fact that X Meets Y doesn't go on works pages anyway.
Stratadrake
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07:19:35 PM Aug 9th 2013
edited by 69.172.221.4

Cel Shading:

Yes, the game has it. The cel-shaded lighting ramp is subtle and not frequently used, but it is indeed there, end of discussion. Proof: Examine the lighting on Pangoro's belly during its animations in trailer 5.

Besides, I happen to think we're defining the Cel Shading trope too narrowly, but that's potentially a matter for TRS.
CabbitGirlEmi
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10:41:47 AM Jul 31st 2013
It has been said that Kalos is based off of France. However, I think it's based off of the entire continent of Europe, but mostly France, because Kalos is a Greek word, and Tierno, the name of one of your friends, is a Latin word.
Serefin
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03:46:31 AM Jan 10th 2013
How come this has gotten it's own page already? It was only announced a few days ago, and we have approximately jack and sh*t in terms of knowledge about.
Cider
11:16:44 AM Jan 11th 2013
edited by Cider
Fannage? The speed Pokemon fans move at on this site can be disturbing sometimes huh?
Blazios
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06:45:20 AM Jan 8th 2013
Just so you all know, this page has been misnamed (It's missing the é in Pokémon). I'm not entirely sure how to change this since adding an accent to the URL obviously redirects back here.
Telcontar
moderator
07:07:18 AM Jan 8th 2013
One uses the title customizer. The accent should be in place shortly.
bwburke94
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04:42:02 AM Jan 8th 2013
Let the jokes about an old webcomic begin!
Lightflame
05:45:38 AM Jan 8th 2013
I'd rather not.
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