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Shale
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10:47:27 AM Oct 15th 2013
Why are we spoiler-tagging the title of Vergil's Downfall as if it weren't prominently advertised on every "official" site about the game? In particular, it would be great if somebody with the power to edit could flip the tags so the actual spoilers on Trapped in Another World and Trailers Always Spoil are blocked out, instead of just the title of the DLC that everybody reading the page will already know the title of.
Willbyr
moderator
topic
04:54:55 PM Mar 17th 2013
These are requested edits for the page, but they're Zero Context Examples and need to be beefed up some before being added.

jalapeno
07:09:29 AM Mar 20th 2013
I'll beef those up if you like:

Fetus Terrible: Played with by The Spawn of Mundus. It may be a hideous demonic abomination that it's mother ejects from her body to fight on her behalf, but it only fights in self-defence and never demonstrates evil traits other than it's hideous appearance.

Freudian Trio: Dante acts as pure id, motivated only by lust and revenge, never voicing or demonstrating concern for the outcome of his actions. Kat is a calming influence on him as a Super Ego, motivating him to restrain his selfish behaviour. Vergil meanwhile is the Ego of the equation, pushing Dante toward higher goals and ultimately being denied his control over Dante by Kat's intervention.

Ship Tease: Although never implicitly demonstrated, Kat and Dante's close friendship that materializes throughout the game is seen to have romantic undertones by the fanbase.

Could we get:

Protagonist-Centered Morality: Dante's only concern throughout the story lies with revenge, and the short-term effect of his actions is the human world being overrun with demons. He doesn't seem to mind much. Complacent Gaming Syndrome: The game has several dominant strategies as part of it's design, namely using Ophion Pull and Enemy Step to maintain endless aerial combos. Demon Dodge also provides such a massive bonus to damage output that it allows Dante to obliterate even the toughest enemies in moments.
PersonWithManyAliases
topic
08:55:50 AM Mar 14th 2013
When's the edit lock gonna be eased up? There's at least two tropes I feel like adding right now, and hopefully before I forget them.
Telcontar
moderator
09:57:55 AM Mar 14th 2013
Please post the tropes you want to add here so the mods can edit the page.
MadCormorant
topic
11:58:22 PM Feb 21st 2013
If I don't get around to doing it myself, I ask that this trope entry be added to the main page (or the YMMV page, whichever one is appropriate) when the lockdown passes:

  • Everything Is Better With Spinning: The Aquila, one of the weapons acquired in-game, can be used to perform the Tornado attack in which Dante spins around really fast with blades in hand and damage any hapless mooks caught in his path. While this would be a good way to rack up some combo points fast, especially if you can catch multiple foes in the maelstrom, the Aquila doesn't dish out as much raw damage as your other melee weapons. Further, this attack can be interrupted by enemy attacks, and Dante is left vulnerable for a short period of time at the beginning when he charges up the attack, possibly pushing this into Awesome but Impractical territory.
jalapeno
12:06:04 PM Feb 22nd 2013
Addendum: Aerial Buy In functions in a similar way, with the added bonus of pulling most enemies into the air where they can be air-comboed to death with impunity.
VeryMelon
topic
10:49:38 PM Jan 17th 2013
Why was the page locked?
Nettacki
11:13:29 PM Jan 17th 2013
Vandalism prevention measure?
lu127
moderator
12:19:55 AM Jan 18th 2013
Tempers are a high at the moment on both the pro side and the anti side, so let's give the game some time out.
theenglishman
08:19:11 AM Feb 5th 2013
edited by theenglishman
Any plans to unlock the page soon? It's been almost a month now.
Larkmarn
08:43:24 AM Feb 5th 2013
Seeing as someone cited this game as why Capcom should be considered a Fallen Creator on that discussion page today... I'm inclined to think that things haven't exactly cooled entirely.
jalapeno
02:52:15 PM Feb 9th 2013
If you kept the page locked for a year it wouldn't quell the intense feelings people have for this game. You can put a nuclear reactor in a vacuum and it'll still burn.
theenglishman
12:17:08 PM Feb 16th 2013
How about at least getting rid of the grammar error I made on the last paragraph before the trope descriptions ("is was released") that I never got around to fixing before the page was locked?

Also people are just adding Dm C examples to the main Devil May Cry page now. It's not going to change anything.
eagle108
01:21:32 AM Feb 19th 2013
While having DmC examples on the main DMC page might not change anything, it would cause confusion on those that aren't as knowledgeable of the whole... mess as others are.
verymelon
05:05:07 PM Apr 19th 2013
Is 3 months enough time out for this game or did this become permanently locked?
KrazyKopter
11:34:08 PM Apr 21st 2013
It will be locked until the end of the world due to the rampant Broken Base, like Friendship is Magic. Unless everybody suddenly thought it was the best thing ever, it's like this for a lifetime.
VeryMelon
11:19:13 PM Dec 17th 2013
Oh it's unlocked now.
SilverWings
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02:37:10 PM Oct 22nd 2012
Am I the only one who thinks that this game is trying too hard to be cool? I mean, continuity reboots are fine and all, and I'm not exactly excited about how they're revamping Dante, but I won't freak out about it... But making him younger, a smoker with an even harsher backstory than the original, ramping up the fanservice... Ugh. And if this wasn't enough proof, the demons are actually the government and they control the populace via consumerism... And their main opponent is a trustworthy, young billionaire electronics mogul, who spends his spare time leading a rebellion as a clear expy of the Anonymous? It's like they're saying "Woohoo, guys! We're anti consumerist, and we support rebelling against authority and stuff! And look at Dante, he's all dark, and brooding, and angst-ridden!"
AzureRyuu
08:42:11 PM Jan 16th 2013
Believe me, Trying too hard was my first reaction to this one.
Vanguard1505
03:31:14 AM Jan 17th 2013
Hard to call Dante angst-ridden and brooding when he's actually quite positive and snarky. In fact, his attitude is arguably more colourful than old school Dante.
Larkmarn
05:50:01 AM Jan 17th 2013
In fairness... I also felt that Dante in the first series was trying too hard to be cool. But this kinda takes it even further.
jalapeno
07:10:23 PM Jan 30th 2013
Is it me, or does having Demon AND Angel lineage smack of Mary Sue? As well as alienate us from New Dante significantly. Wasn't Classic Dante's connection to his humanity what made him relatable and inspiring? That no matter how powerful monsters are, it's the human spirit that makes us great?
mrmercer
01:10:09 AM Apr 9th 2014
I definitely agree with the OP. It really feels like they wanted to be "mature," in which mature means swearing every five seconds and littering the streets with hookers. I also agree with Jalapeno, though I don't have anything to add to his/her comment, so I won't try to add to it.
AkiraxAtsukifan
topic
11:37:33 AM Apr 16th 2012
Okay, I'm getting annoyed that someone keeps deleting all the negative backlash in the YMMV section. If it's YMMV, it shouldn't matter what people think since it's a reaction that you see. I don't like how this person is deleting it and making it seem like the Hate Dumb is in the wrong and they don't know what they're complaining about. It's like damage control.
Bicker
06:22:55 PM Sep 22nd 2012
This, someone keeps deleting everything that points out the fanbase may have legitimate concerns, while keeping and rewriting anything that could be spun to make it seem like the fans are stupid and wrong and need to stop crucifying that poor Ninja Theory. It's fucking disgusting and seems eerily close to viral marketing at its worst.
coolman229
10:28:38 AM Oct 16th 2012
I don't know why it happens. The same thing was going on in the Legend Of Korra YMMV (don't say anything negative about Mako or you're just a hater!). I think it's just some people who can't handle Ninja Theory getting any flak. I love Ninja Theory (Enslaved was awesome, and I've heard good things about Heavenly Sword), but this is not something you can defend.

I came across this video talking about the new Dante. I don't know if anyone's seen it, but it's pretty good.
ashlay
06:24:55 AM Oct 17th 2012
edited by ashlay
Tropes pages are not for Complaining About Shows You Don't Like. Justifying Edits are bad.

If you think of a YMMV trope that a work and its audience is an example of, add it. If you want to express your disappointment in a work, we've got forums for that instead: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/topics.php.
Vanguard1505
03:32:55 AM Jan 17th 2013
I personally love this game and even I find the deletions to be absolutely immature and pointless. Of course your opinion will differ, that gives you no right to decide others think along the same lines as you. Grow up.
ashlay
06:16:55 AM Jan 18th 2013
Then go ahead and try to fix them as you see fit.

These pages and entries are there to illustrate a type of trope / audience reaction / trivia in a concise matter. A lot of those deleted entires were quite simply using the wrong entry or weren't properly explaining what made a particular event an example of that entry.
regalsmeagol
topic
01:03:38 AM Mar 20th 2012
Is it just me, or was this entire page written by someone who hates this game?
illegalcheese
06:30:55 PM Mar 20th 2012
edited by illegalcheese
It...seems alright. It might be a little early for the In Name Only entry, but it otherwise sticks to the facts. The YMMV page is a little more hostile, but at least sticks to debatably relevant facts, rather than opinions.
regalsmeagol
08:24:24 PM Mar 22nd 2012
Okay then. Just checking anyways! Also, since I don't know a single person who likes the current pic of Dante (myself included), shouldn't we... change it or something? There are better, updated pics available.
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