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DonaldthePotholer
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01:59:37 AM Apr 11th 2010
edited by DonaldthePotholer
Let Me Get This Straight: It doesn't matter how loyal he is to The Hero or his cause, the key thing is that The Lancer is directly on the team (as opposed to an aloof Sixth Ranger) and the opposite ogre to The Hero. Right?
FastEddie
moderator
02:01:32 AM Apr 11th 2010
Pretty much.
ArcVaranus
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05:42:12 PM Aug 12th 2010
edited by ArcVaranus
So, can villains have Lancers as well? As in, have a Dragon or a BigBadDuumvirate situation where the partner acts as the Big Bad's opposite number?
SomeGuy
11:57:24 AM Aug 13th 2010
I would guess no technically, since The Lancer is defined in relation to the hero.

Metaphorically? Maybe- I can't think of any examples, though. Usually the the Big Bad and The Dragon have a lot more in common than The Hero and The Lancer.
ArcVaranus
10:13:29 AM Aug 20th 2010
Yeah, but the Dragon is usually seen as a subordinate to the Big Bad. I'm thinking of a character who's at an equal level to the main villain, but isn't the one who takes the lead in their evil schemes.

I suppose the situation would be rare, since you don't see a lot of fictional examples of villains trusting each other like a hero would trust his lancer, least of all in the case of Big Bads.
74.103.24.243
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12:26:24 AM Aug 18th 2010
Just a quick question; where does the name "Lancer" come from? Is it a character?
74.103.24.243
12:27:25 AM Aug 18th 2010
Never mind, just read the page:)
StClair
11:10:35 AM Jan 23rd 2012
edited by StClair
The funny thing is, my understanding was that the trope/character type was named for the character in Mospeda/Robotech - the "backup" hero, who's more worldly and cynical and reserved than the earnest, naive, hot-blooded young-male-viewer-surrogate capital-H Hero. Thus, Lancer vis Scott Bernard, Han Solo vis Luke Skywalker... the sort also known as the Cool Guy.
Stoogebie
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10:31:33 AM May 16th 2011
Okay, so I read through the "Playing With" section, and it said that if all the other members of the group foil The Hero, it counts as an aversion. So what if there are two lancers?
wootzits
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04:14:31 AM Oct 31st 2011
Should a female lancer be called "lancette"?
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