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Mar 20th 2021 at 9:32:12 AM •••

Previous Trope Repair Shop thread: Ambiguous Name, started by Midna on Mar 4th 2017 at 9:02:09 PM

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
DeathsApprentice Jaded Techie Fox Since: Aug, 2011
Jaded Techie Fox
Nov 1st 2016 at 7:38:53 AM •••

How exactly is an Alpha Bitch even remotely similar to a Ladette? It's listed as a related trope on this page and I've never understood it, since an Alpha Bitch is very feminine and a Ladette is very much not.

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lexicon Since: May, 2012
Nov 1st 2016 at 1:54:35 PM •••

You're right. I'd take that out.

bluerockerdragongirl Since: Dec, 2009
Aug 17th 2011 at 11:56:06 AM •••

Maybe Real Men Wear Pink ? It's about men who do stereotypically "feminine" things like cooking and cleaning, without being considered a sissy due to their "manliness". Or it could be House Husband where a man does does the housework. I think these could be because it's about reversed expectations of gender behavior, right? If not, I would say that a Frat boy would be the Spear Counterpart.

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lexicon Since: May, 2012
Aug 11th 2014 at 11:55:56 PM •••

The Spear Counterpart would be a young man with the personality of a sorority girl. I don't suppose that exists. I can't even think of any examples myself but I would think they're out there.

Spritle101 Since: Apr, 2013
Jan 27th 2014 at 8:41:31 PM •••

Okay, I have a character; Sharak Sanzo from Saiyuki Reload Blast, who fits the description of either "ugly Ladette," or "transgender," AND "bifauxnen." Ladette exclusion comes sexual part; she shuns sex & even beats the crap out of her best friend for daring to look at her or think of her as a woman. A-cup breasts, quite muscular, covered in scars, smokes, carries a gun, wears male priest hanfu, does what she wants without asking, uses masculine pronouns, is very assertive & has a dominating personality.

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IkedaFan Since: Aug, 2011
Feb 3rd 2014 at 11:05:02 PM •••

I'm thinking either Lady Looks Like a Dude or possibly Transgender but not both. A transgender person and a female crossdresser are two totally different things. She can hate being called a "woman" without actually wanting a penis. That's the difference.

sdmitch16 sdmitch16 Since: Aug, 2011
sdmitch16
Dec 25th 2011 at 7:15:51 AM •••

The word dudette should redirect here. I searched "dudette tv tropes" on google and was sent to an analysis page on an article that doesn't exist.

Will I be informed if people reply to my discussion post?
Mirime Since: Aug, 2012
Dec 21st 2011 at 7:18:05 PM •••

I wonder if the fact that Fang was supposed to be originally a man in the developmental stages of FFXIII makes any difference on the note here...

Kilyle Field Primus Since: Jan, 2001
Field Primus
Jul 17th 2010 at 8:31:35 PM •••

I just got done reading a section of a Harry Potter fanfic (A Black Comedy) in which three otherwise pretty normal ladies (as normal as ladies get in HP) actually have a contest of who can belch and/or fart the loudest.

I've only my own experience to judge from but... it occurs to me that while guys may find such bodily emissions hilarious, women just don't. I really can't see normal women laughing over "you're the King of Farts now" and "oho, Sally just beat you" and such. Reading that section made me wonder if the author has much understanding of how the female gender operates.

Anyway... would that count for this trope? If so, someone please add it because I'm not really sure what to say.

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Mirime Since: Aug, 2012
Dec 21st 2011 at 7:08:18 PM •••

Actually, that's something a little too personal to be a trope. Tropes tend to be public and well known, fart/belching contests between girls is something usually only done somewhere relatively private, like someone's house or apartment or something. Plus, the type of humor that encompasses is also something very personal and may almost count as a YMMV.

67.223.208.204 Since: Dec, 1969
bluerockerdragongirl Since: Dec, 2009
Aug 18th 2011 at 8:24:44 AM •••

Maybe a picture of Misato from Neon Genesis Evangelion knocking back a cold one? She's a less extreme version of the trope, if I remember correctly...

Sufferer of Floating Head Syndrome
Eclipse11 Since: Nov, 2010
Nov 12th 2011 at 9:08:51 AM •••

Why is the picture from an anime when this is a far more common REALITY in england?

(since you cant hotlink, search "ladette to lady australia" on google image search, its the pic with the women with the teacup at the front)

A picture like the above is a far better example of the actual trope than someone obsessed with anime putting it as the main picture just to satisfy their own obsessions.

I would change the picture myself, but i don't want to use the wrong format or something and cause errors. Plus i'm kinda sure it'll get reverted by an anime fanboy :(

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AgProv AgProv Since: Jul, 2011
AgProv
Nov 4th 2011 at 6:19:59 PM •••

Hmmm.. You mised out the objectors.

Class One (covers quite a few blokes) - you can appreciate ladettes (sometimes known as Essex Girls or Geordie Chicks) up to a point. you can appreciate the vitality, up to a point. But after a while it's a complete turn-off. You ask yourself "There are far too many incapably drunken mindless agressive or incontinent shithead drunks on the streets of Insert British town here as it is. Why add to them? And it isn't in the least bit desirable or sexual or a turn-on. It's somehow just.... ugggh".

Type Two objector (the older woman who might have been a committed feminist while at university and still supports right-on causes) Ugggh. Is this really the equality we fought for while we were in our twenties, the struggle for equality between the sexes that we hoped for, dreamt of and fought for? And all younger women want to do with it is to prove they can get every bit as ratarsed and incapably drunk as men can? Our fight for women's equality boils down to their right to piss in the streets? Sometimes I wonder why we bothered...

Type Three objection (the Daily Mail reader) This is proof our country has gone to Hell in a handcart and our towns are being taken over by feral chavs who can't be counted even as working-class because I bet they haven't worked in their lives.... We should go back to the social values of the fifties where women knew how to behave in public. The 1850's for preference, but the 1950's will do...

I've heard all three views expressed, with great vehemence...

Edited by AgProv Male, early sixties, Cranky old fart, at least two decades behind. So you have been warned. Functionally illiterate in several languages.
216.56.28.38 Since: Dec, 1969
May 28th 2010 at 9:41:21 AM •••

I'm sure there are a lot of people who believe that Freud Was Right idea, given that 90% of the human race are morons, but, just for the record, it's the most retarded thing I've ever heard in my life. Men who are gay do one of two things: either they accept their gayness and start chasing dudes, or they reject it (whether on the conscious or subconscious level), in which case they try to be unlike gays in every way possible. A closet homosexual would never—ever—date a woman who was the least bit masculine. I mean, come on, that's just common sense!

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BTIsaac Since: Dec, 1969
Jul 13th 2010 at 9:47:51 AM •••

Not to mention no matter how manly she is, girl = Boobs and no Junk. Why would a gay man go for that? Socially acceptable my eye. No doubt these are the same idiots that think they can have threesome with lesbians. Sheesh!

24.131.65.102 Since: Dec, 1969
Jun 28th 2010 at 5:17:34 PM •••

Truth in Television - in Britain, alcoholism and alcohol-related violence among young women has increased significantly in recent years.

This is not what Truth in Television means. At all.

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