Main Sexual Harassment And Rape Tropes Discussion

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02:58:57 AM Jun 25th 2015
Beastiality Is Depraved should be added. After all, animals don't have the intelligence or will to consent to sex with people, so it's rape(which, you know, is why it's considered a bad thing)
07:18:21 AM Jun 25th 2015
edited by MrDeath
It's considered a bad thing because it's having sex with animals. It's got nothing to do with their ability to consent.

I mean, are you implying that everyone would be totally fine with schtupping animals if they could say "yes"? Seriously?
09:49:04 AM Jul 21st 2016
edited by TheOneWhoTropes
In Denmark, until very recently, there was a small subculture of animal fucking. They saw nothing wrong with having sex with animals, on stage, even. So I think some people would be. The consent issues are what eventually got it banned.

I'm a member of the LGBT community. People going "oh, icky" denied me my rights for ages, and still deny people like me rights in other countries. Personal disgust is not a good reason to ban a practice, you need more than that.
08:10:14 AM Jun 3rd 2014
edited by
Anyone else annoyed there are no sexual harassment tropes on the sexual harassment index? If you are, would you agree to changing the name of this index to something more accurate?
04:04:03 PM Jul 12th 2012
This line was recently added to the description. I pulled it because it sounded rather controversial. Opinions?

All the tropes are back following the ban after complaining, but several pages are locked just for potential tropers to know ahead.
09:16:36 PM Apr 28th 2011
So, the infamous trigger warning. I'm of the opinion that it's unnecessary, since anyone who can't figure out from the page title that there will be "descriptions of sexual abuse and related issues" in the tropes on this index, really shouldn't be on the internet.
10:14:27 AM Apr 29th 2011
The consensus in Wiki Talk is that these warnings are unnecessary. I'm removing it.
01:30:37 AM Apr 30th 2011
I didn't think it was particularly necessary, either. (And definitely not on the Rape Tropes index -_-)

However, I did feel there should be a consensus for it, at least. And an excuse beyond "we'll need to put one up on every single page because anything, even a pancake, could set people off!" would have been a good idea to put up- at the very least, to prevent others reverting it in-future.
06:21:50 AM Apr 30th 2011
Which, now I think about it, probably was stupid- I should have taken it straight here.

Sorry. I will do this in future.
12:05:35 PM Apr 30th 2011
Given the way the Wiki Talk thread is going, The Staff is working on a draft of a policy for when warnings are not allowed, are allowed, and are required. When we finish, I or one of the other staff members will post the draft in the Wiki Talk thread for comments.
09:49:02 PM May 1st 2011
Thank you, Ironeye.
04:33:17 AM Jan 15th 2012
edited by Slaanesh
wrong topic guys
08:15:49 PM Dec 27th 2010
So, Abduction Is Love is generally the "mwahaha, I'll kidnap the princess and force her to marry me" trope, right? Is there a reason it's not listed here? It might be used as "the G-rated version" of Rape Is Love sometimes, but there's still at least an implicit threat of rape in most forced marriage scenarios.
09:57:00 PM Nov 19th 2010
edited by JET73L

By its very nature, rape displays a "total contempt for the personal integrity and autonomy" of the victim; 'short of homicide, [it is] the "ultimate violation of self.'"

By its very nature, rape displays a "total contempt for the personal integrity and autonomy" of the victim; 'short of homicide, [it is] the "ultimate violation of self.'"
Because the quote explicitly excludes death (that is, homicide) as the only thing that's more of a violation of self than rape. Ergo, it is (according to a quote) not a Fate Worse Than Death, but rather a Fate Exceeded In Badness Only by Death. I'm not trying to start a big discussion over the afterlife's quality of existence or if it exists at all and the aftereffects of rape, just trying to keep the theme of the reproduced quote in line with the quote itself.

If anyone objects to recursion in Index description Pot Holes, that's part of why this is on this page. I just thought that that trope was more appropriate. Not perfect, but better than anything else, though I'm not going to bother arguing whether or not it is better than no Pot Hole at all.
07:26:01 PM Jul 30th 2011
No contention here; I actually think it is the perfect Pot Hole.
12:16:53 PM Sep 17th 2010
Why, oh why does everyone seem to assume Rape is "heavily implied" just because a character was unconscious for a period of time? I just removed an entry from Rape Is Okay When Its Female On Male that said Sherlock Holmes "heavily implied" that Adler raped him when she drugged him. What happens is she knocks him out with drugged wine, kisses him as he's falling asleep, and he wakes up tied to the bed. Nothing in the film acts like he's been raped, it would be completely out of character for Adler, and such a thing would be entirely out of place in the movie anyway.

Same thing with a What Do You Mean, It's for Kids? entry for Twilight Princess I got rid of a few months ago, where it said it was "heavily implied" that Ilia was gangraped by Bulbins after her kidnapping. Looking at the script and youtube videos of the scene which was given as "evidence" shows absolutely nothing that even comes close to remotely implying that rape happened.

It's just...good God, why the fuck do people see rape everywhere?
10:41:58 PM May 5th 2011
edited by SpellBlade
OK, that last one made me laugh. What sort of whacked out thought process would lead someone to get that impression from the game...
04:44:17 PM Aug 5th 2010
I think that the title of this page needs a pun to lighten the mood.
07:54:26 AM Aug 16th 2010
Or, not. And please don't quote that George Carlin "joke" about Daffy Duck and Elmer Fudd as a justification.
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