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Timeman
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11:16:51 AM Jul 10th 2010
Would defeating the hero killer count as baddass decay, the Worf effect or crowning moment of awasome?
Iaculus
12:28:46 PM Jul 10th 2010
It could count as any and all of those, depending on the nature of the defeat.
LoserTakesAll
09:19:48 PM Aug 29th 2010
To be more specific: it's badass decay if the hero killer only loses because it doesn't fight at it's usual power level (especially if it loses to a hero it's beaten in the past who doesn't use different tactics than they did in the first fight); it's a crowning moment of awesome if the hero beats the hero killer by using excellent tactics or putting in extreme effort (i.e., by being awesome) even though the killer fights at its usual power level; it's the Worf effect if the hero killer starts losing fights just to prove how badass the person beating it is. For the record, I'm pretty sure the reference to invoking the Worf effect in the entry is intended to mean that the hero killer takes advantage of the Worf effect by smacking down powerful but not A-list heroes to prove how tough it is. The hero killer can certainly become a victim of the Worf effect, but I don't think that was the intent of the entry.
masamune1
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06:17:03 PM Oct 18th 2010
I think the title should be changed. Hero Killer sounds like a pretty inadequate term for the attributes this trope describes. I thought it would be about something like a villain who actively hunts down heroes- Grevious, for instance, is dedicated to hunting down Jedi- not one who simpy strikes terror into their hearts. That means that a lot of characters on this list not only don't kill heroes, but some are'nt even trying to, and might be competely indifferent, or even reluctant to hurt them in the first place.

I think we need a new name.
Iaculus
05:22:59 AM Oct 19th 2010
Take it to Trope Repair Shop, then.
Austin
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12:21:14 PM Apr 7th 2011
Can we please find a better page quote? Not only is the formatting painful to look at, it doesn't sum up the trope in the way a good page quote should, and it loses all meaning if you aren't already familiar the character.
Uriel1988
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04:13:29 AM Jul 21st 2011
Can a character still be a Hero Killer if he/she doesn't actually kill anyone but still strikes fear into the hearts of experienced heroes?
Joshua17
06:18:10 PM Dec 11th 2011
No, I believe that's The Dreaded. So I think I'll be removing the MLP example in the Western Animation folder.
AmbarSonofDeshar
10:01:42 AM Jan 30th 2012
I don't see why not. As long as the heroes are terrified of him/her and the terror is caused by his/her ability to kick ass I'd say it counts.
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