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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Mar 20th 2021 at 6:53:35 AM •••

Previous Trope Repair Shop thread: Needs Help, started by Wuz on Nov 25th 2017 at 11:27:31 AM

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
205.175.225.22 Since: Dec, 1969
May 6th 2010 at 1:21:16 PM •••

I'm not sure if we should create an entry for the Beretta CX 4 or not. While it's a very cool-looking little carbine, the only TV appearance I know of for it is Battlestar Galactica.

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Evilest_Tim Since: Nov, 2009
May 7th 2010 at 12:50:06 AM •••

I'd say you'd have to get Rule of Three before adding something (though "everything" counts as rule of three for WW 2 weapons, obviously).

It is shameful for a demon to be working, but one needs gold even in Hell these days.
TheWildWestPyro Since: Sep, 2012
Dec 4th 2017 at 12:42:22 PM •••

I'm seeing a lot of new guns from certain companies being added. But shouldn't the focus be on firearms that have made lots of notable media appearances? They're very new, but some haven't exactly made lots of exposure just yet.

Eldritch Since: Feb, 2013
Nov 17th 2017 at 3:33:36 AM •••

What happened to the Fictional Guns folder? I was going to add Bindlebane.

(Sorry for the double-post; it was an accident)

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Eldritch Since: Feb, 2013
Nov 17th 2017 at 3:33:35 AM •••

What happened to the Fictional Guns folder? I was going to add Bindlebane.

TheWildWestPyro Since: Sep, 2012
Oct 22nd 2017 at 4:16:35 PM •••

Recently, people have been adding captions to the gun images.

Personally, I see no problem with this. Go right ahead!

YoshimitsuMaster Since: Oct, 2014
Dec 1st 2016 at 7:16:52 AM •••

Is there enough content to start a new page for Anti-Tank and Anti-Air guns? I'm pretty sure the big cheese also qualify as guns, but they just aren't very focused upon in movies and videogames.

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TheWildWestPyro Since: Sep, 2012
Sep 26th 2017 at 12:32:54 PM •••

Well, for AA we do have autocannons plus missiles in another folder. AT is scattered; several are in launchers, AT rifles are in rifles.

TheWildWestPyro Since: Sep, 2012
Sep 25th 2017 at 8:32:44 PM •••

So one of the contributors has been going around deleting photos that are apparently "stolen" from IMFDB, despite the fact I couldn't really find any other alternatives sometimes.

In that case then, I'll try to find images that aren't from the website to prevent conflict and if I can't, hopefully I can still find some.

Wuz Since: Jun, 2013
Apr 28th 2017 at 4:33:01 AM •••

Well, late reply, but I messed up the status quo on 15th Feb '17, and it looks like it's staying for now.

TheWildWestPyro Since: Sep, 2012
Nov 2nd 2014 at 2:33:57 AM •••

Alright, what happened to the pictures on a lot of the pages?

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Nov 2nd 2014 at 9:09:48 AM •••

They were copyrighted images and only for IMDB purposes, according to moderator chat discussion.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
TheWildWestPyro Since: Sep, 2012
Jun 22nd 2014 at 12:17:12 AM •••

Right, I've added pictures to all the examples in each subpage. If anyone has any objections or doesn't like the image, suggest another one in an image pickin' discussion.

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Belexar Since: Apr, 2011
Dec 18th 2012 at 8:46:25 AM •••

Perhaps we should add the Remington New Model Army/Navy revolver to the list? It was used by the Union Army after the Colt factory burned down, and after that several soldiers and officers would spend their own money to get them; they were that good. The Remington New Model was the first revolver to have a frame build around the cilinder, which made the gun significantly more durable than the competitors. Also, it had the very cool and practical feature of being able to switch out a spend cilinder for a loaded one in a matter of seconds, which was a lot easier than reloading the cilinder, even after the introduction of metal cartridges. It had been used in several westerns, like in Pale Rider (wielded by the Preacher) and The Good, The Bad And The Ugly (wielded by Angel Eyes).

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TheWildWestPyro Since: Sep, 2012
Jun 18th 2014 at 5:36:45 PM •••

You add it yourself, please. I've learned that if no one adds the Ithaca, you make it yourself.

elbert0p1kachu Teh cutest nightmare Since: Jan, 2001
Teh cutest nightmare
Mar 7th 2012 at 6:53:03 AM •••

I'm sorry if this was mentioned, can we put some picture or two next to each guns? It seems inconvenient to make another tab just to see the model of the gun.

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TheWildWestPyro Since: Sep, 2012
Dec 23rd 2013 at 11:52:13 PM •••

Possible, but it might lag the page a bit.

TheWildWestPyro Since: Sep, 2012
Jun 17th 2014 at 11:03:04 PM •••

On the other hand, that is a good idea. I'll experiment with the Shotguns page.

TheWildWestPyro Since: Sep, 2012
Jun 17th 2014 at 11:28:11 PM •••

Hey, it actually looks good! I'll add pics for the rest.

Wooboo Since: Apr, 2011
Jun 12th 2013 at 6:46:49 PM •••

I had a bit of an idea. I was thinking we could add a quote at the top of each page, namely from a famous work that describes just how awesome a particular weapon is to represent the category. For instance, in the Revolvers page, we put up the famous "do you feel lucky, punk" quote and on the Submachine gun quote, O'Neil's "This is a weapon of war" quote about the P90, etc.

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TheWildWestPyro Since: Sep, 2012
May 20th 2014 at 7:17:41 PM •••

OK, almost got all of them-does anyone have a quote for Machine Pistols?

notafraid Since: Mar, 2011
Jan 31st 2014 at 5:15:53 PM •••

I like this series of articles, but it doesn't really account for Designated Marksman Rifles does it? Although the SVD under Sniper Rifles is mentioned as a DMR. Personally I've always seen it portrayed as a sniper and was unaware it actually had DMR applications. Can I start a DMR page (notwithstanding the fact that many existing rifles are retooled into DM Rs, perhaps the article could include instances of such specialisations and their depictions in the media)?

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TheWildWestPyro Since: Sep, 2012
May 20th 2014 at 6:41:10 AM •••

Another suggestion: Move all the entries you think count as DM Rs to that page, and try making some new ones too. :)

Cider The Final ECW Champion Since: May, 2009
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Jun 2nd 2012 at 7:46:30 PM •••

Wouldn't flamethrowers count as "cool guns".

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LongGunner15 Since: Dec, 2011
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Fulcon Since: Jul, 2013
Apr 18th 2011 at 10:00:42 AM •••

What's the weapon pictured in the page picture? It's cool.

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MrDeath Since: Aug, 2009
Apr 18th 2011 at 10:09:09 AM •••

It's an MP 5, if I'm not mistaken, with engraving on it to fancy it up.

SuperLurkerGuy Since: May, 2011
Odon Since: Jan, 2001
Jul 15th 2011 at 9:41:18 AM •••

Shouldn't we open an entry for anti-material rifles? Off the top of my head...

  • A Barrett .50 calibre is used for a sniper duel in The Hurt Locker.
  • Gunslinger Girl. Barrett's and other more powerful calibres are used against the cyborg girls.

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Odon Since: Jan, 2001
Nov 20th 2011 at 4:44:19 AM •••

  • Person Of Interest. The protagonist takes one out of his trunk and uses it to stop a diplomatic car with one shot.

SSJMagus Since: Oct, 2010
Jun 1st 2011 at 6:02:03 PM •••

Shouldn't the COP 357 go on the Rare Guns page? I was under the impression that not many were actually made, contrary to what the movies would have us believe.

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Odon Since: Jan, 2001
Jul 15th 2011 at 9:38:22 AM •••

Seems to be used in a sci-fi A.K.A.-47-type context, rather than being actually referred to as the COP pistol. It's not made any more though, as the company is defunct according to the other Wiki.

69.207.28.102 Since: Dec, 1969
Aug 19th 2010 at 4:13:02 PM •••

we should add the Atchisson Assault Shotgun aka the AA-12. The fact it's an a Full-Auto shotgun makes it cool enough and I can name 4 times it was featured

Wielded by Terry Crews' character during the final shootout in The Expendibles

also used by the main character in Predators

It was in MW 2

You get one early on in GTA-Ballid of Gay Tony and later it gets explosive shells turing it into a BFG

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Evilest_Tim Since: Nov, 2009
Aug 19th 2010 at 11:23:40 PM •••

I thought the proper name was "Atchisson Auto Assault 12?"

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69.207.28.102 Since: Dec, 1969
Aug 20th 2010 at 12:06:22 PM •••

yeah, my bad, what I had was it's former name

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Evilest_Tim Since: Nov, 2009
Aug 20th 2010 at 10:06:46 PM •••

Yeah, I'll probably put it in under USAS-12 since the two are cousins (USAS is based on Atchisson's designs from the 80s; the AA-12's been lurking around in one form or another since 1972, back when it was going to have a hilariously useless 5-round magazine). Probably the same time I add the DshK, given it's the commie M2 and all. Probably the Panzerfaust too.

Edited by Evilest_Tim It is shameful for a demon to be working, but one needs gold even in Hell these days.
Evilest_Tim Since: Nov, 2009
Aug 27th 2010 at 1:16:09 AM •••

Just thinking about it a little more, though, isn't the AA-12 a Rare Gun rather than a Cool Gun? I've been thinking of shifting the Mark 23 over there as it is  *

and I don't think there's been any major adoptors of the AA-12 yet.

Edited by Evilest_Tim It is shameful for a demon to be working, but one needs gold even in Hell these days.
69.207.28.102 Since: Dec, 1969
Aug 28th 2010 at 8:01:53 AM •••

Yeah I guess it's still in the testing phase right now

Odon Since: Jan, 2001
Jul 15th 2011 at 9:36:31 AM •••

  • Carl Lyons was using one back in the Eighties for the Able Team series, and was featured on several covers albeit in its early-model 'super M16' look.

warlord396 Since: Oct, 2010
Apr 3rd 2011 at 10:04:03 AM •••

The Five Seven (and by extension, P90)'s armor-piercing capabilities are stated to be an urban legend under its posting. The bullet and the guns that fire it were designed, at request by NATO, to develop an armor-piercing, lightweight alternative to the 9x19 Parabellum round. Unless the abilities are an urban legend belived by the numerous independant organizations that have tested it, the military, the secret service, countless civilian shooters, and the designers, I'm just gonna remove the hyperlink.

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EvilestTim Since: Dec, 1969
Apr 25th 2011 at 3:10:14 AM •••

FN don't sell the SS190 AP ammo to civilians; the civilian loadings are good against Level II body armour, but so are plenty of other handgun rounds (for example, a .44 Magnum round fired from a 6.5 inch revolver barrel will go through 12 inches of ballistic gel after going through a level II vest). The round's likelihood of immediate incapacitation when fired from a P90 is fine because it's an SMG, but it's rather sucky coming out of a pistol. Nice try there.

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141.156.196.93 Since: Dec, 1969
Mar 4th 2011 at 8:40:35 PM •••

SPAS-12 should be added. Shows up in a boatload of video games and again as many movies and tv shows

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EvilestTim Since: Dec, 1969
198.109.0.15 Since: Dec, 1969
Jan 5th 2011 at 5:35:57 AM •••

Jack Harkness uses a Webley Mk IV (the .38), not a Mk VI.

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