In a setting with multiple intelligent species and/or shapeshifters, would this trope only apply to sapient/non-sapient pairings, or does the shape of either partner matter (biped/quadriped, assuming both participants are sapient). Alternatively, would it only depend on the social norms each intelligent species is used to?
Is there a inverse trope for when the animal is the depraved one and the human is the victim?
I got my political views from reddit and that's badIs there a inverse trope for when the animal is the depraved one and the human is the victim?
I got my political views from reddit and that's badSince animals aren't cognitive enough to consent, shouldn't this be under the "Sexual Harassment and Rape" page? Because that's essentially what it is and why its considered immoral
Hide / Show RepliesI don't think that trope-wise that aspect is very prominent. If I am wrong though it can fit there.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanI really don't think that's the only reason it's considered immoral.
Considering how often and accepted it is as dirty humor, can this trope really fall under Dude, Not Funny!?
Hide / Show RepliesYes, it can. It is not funny for the animals involved, and therefore not funny for people who care for animals' wellbeing. The whole point of Dude, Not Funny! is that some people "accept" something as "dirty humor", which is decidedly NOT funny for the victims. If no one thought it was funny, there would be no reason to say "Dude, not funny", after all.
Not sure whether the District 9 example counts as bestiality. I guess it might fit, since the aliens were commonly seen as being dumb and brutish, but they were clearly more intelligent than nonsapient animals. I'd say that a human (allegedly) having sex with an alien would be a perversion, but not bestiality.
It does not matter who I am. What matters is, who will you become? - motto of Omsk BirdThe account for this is dead, so I'm moving it here in the hopes someone will remember what it was and restore it if there's another copy.
- Used in this Youtube Poop. (See 0:50)
Should we say "Don't insult her like that—she was a beautiful one from Blue Mountain State!" as a way to get around the "Still a Goat" bit? (Blue Mountain State have the "Mountain Goats" for a football team.)
But You Screw One Goat renamed to Bestiality Is Depraved per TRS thread
Edited by SeptimusHeap "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanAccording to the trope namer quote, we have a bit of inconsistency. The quote talks about the guy doing all this thankless hard work, but when he 'screws the goat' he is apparently framed as a goat screwer, to put it mildly. However, the page deals with a kind of animal 'abuser'. According to the page quote, this is wrong, and vice versa. Could I get clarification on whether this is the right trope or not?
Until death do we part Hide / Show RepliesI think this needs to go to the Trope Repair Shop. Unless I'm badly misremembering, this actually used to be the name of what is now Never Live It Down. I can understand the name change for clarity reasons, but the point of the name and of the joke is that the person will never live down their one goat screwing, not that they were a goat screwer. It's like an epic meta application of Never Live It Down- the poor guy can't even live it down in joke form, he's still remembered for the damn goat. This trope needs a new name, and But You Screw One Goat should become an alt title for Never Live It Down.
I rarely visit the forums to avoid the cynicism ooze.I think this needs to go to the Trope Repair Shop. Unless I'm badly misremembering, this actually used to be the name of what is now Never Live It Down. I can understand the name change for clarity reasons, but the point of the name and of the joke is that the person will never live down their one goat screwing, not that they were a goat screwer. It's like an epic meta application of Never Live It Down- the poor guy can't even live it down in joke form, he's still remembered for the damn goat. This trope needs a new name, and But You Screw One Goat should become an alt title for Never Live It Down.
I rarely visit the forums to avoid the cynicism ooze.Re: Aberforth pic... Isn't it Just A Face And A Caption? I could restore it otherwise.
Not to mention Fanon.
Edited by Tambov333 Please join these multinational petitions against ACTA. Sign up now. Every voice counts. Hide / Show RepliesImage Picking Discussion does not show up. >(
Please join these multinational petitions against ACTA. Sign up now. Every voice counts.The current picture fits the trope, but it isn't really very funny. Maybe this one◊ would be better?
The real life section holds several examples of "rumors" and the legal status of bestiality. Shouldn't this be under other?
If no one objects, I'm going to add to the stated reasoning behind why "It works". I don't really think the lack of public support for bestiality is why this trope can be acceptably played for laughs; after all, there's no widespread support for pedophilia, and that certainly isn't played for laughs except in the quarters of Dead Baby Comedy. This trope's ubiquity must have more to do with our moral distance from animals, plus the outright rarity of the practice, which adds to its weirdness and makes it less "real" (like cartoon violence).
Finally cutting this example. It has the "depraved" angle since it's used (falsely) to smear Wikus, but since the aliens are sapient, it's not bestiality, and frankly, given the film's not-so-subtle racism analogy, I find it pretty disturbing to refer to it as such.
- District 9: After Wikus flees the Corrupt Corporate Executive and his goons, the media reports that he had sex with aliens and contracted an STD. Every human he talks to after that for the rest of the movie comments on his alien sex, which they think is the cause of Wikus' steady transformation into an alien. Totally justified in that thanks to MNU's propaganda, that's all anyone did know about Wikus.
It does not matter who I am. What matters is, who will you become? - motto of Omsk Bird