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helterskelter
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01:27:38 AM Jan 9th 2014
Is there a defensible reason why this page finishes off its opening with "the goddamn Batman", when the other pages it's in sync with (Superman and Wonder Woman) don't finish off with their names? I get the reference, but it feels unnecessary and, honestly, a step to make Batman's entry more badass than the other two out of bias.
CrypticMirror
04:46:45 AM Jan 9th 2014
Its a harmless bit of fun, I say keep it in.
helterskelter
08:37:02 PM Jan 11th 2014
It's not so much the line is silly or anything, so much as given that it expressly mirrors the other two of the Three, not only does it break that rhythm, it comes across as myopic.
CrypticMirror
07:03:15 AM Jan 13th 2014
I don't see how that could be relevant to this page. This is about the batman franchise, not the WW or Superman one, and it is a harmless enough thing on the page. Come to that, it is a nice reference to the meme that is inherent within the Batman Franchise. It is informative as well as witty. I vote let it stay.
helterskelter
08:15:00 PM Jan 19th 2014
It's...not informative? It's referencing a meme, that doesn't make it informative. The entry for Memetic Mutation would make it information. And it's definitely not witty.

Plenty of pages share qualities. The reason this page opens this way is so it can match the WW and Superman ones.
Larkmarn
08:50:33 PM Jan 19th 2014
I don't see the harm in it.
SeptimusHeap
12:22:17 AM Jan 20th 2014
I see no problem with it, unless it's a meme.
helterskelter
11:48:50 PM Feb 2nd 2014
edited by 206.174.59.168
As I said, it's a meme that's a quote from All-Star Batman & Robin, which was notoriously bad, filled with Frank Miller's most infamous cliches.

I suppose I should have clarified that point to non-fans, part of my disdain for it comes from Batman fandom being very boisterous in their love and perceived superiority, generally encapsulated as a meme in that sentence.

It would also not bother me as much if the three pages (Superman, Wonder Woman, and Batman) were not trying to have synchronicity. Why bother with that? I like the synch, but I wouldn't die on that hill. But as it stands, when I read all three, I perceived Batman's page as having made a point to set him aside as being more special, precisely because that's how fandom often chooses to use that meme.

But, barring outright questions posed at my reasoning, I'll choose not to die on this hill, I think.
Digifiend
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01:46:48 PM Aug 24th 2013
Shouldn't the 2015 Superman vs Batman film starring Ben Affleck be mentioned here?
PriceCheck
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02:54:19 PM Jun 15th 2013
edited by 216.99.32.45
Would Li'l Gotham fall under Webcomics or Ongoing Series? And has anyone thought about making a trope page for it?
Telcontar
moderator
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10:13:01 AM Aug 5th 2012
edited by Telcontar
Evil Is Stylish, a trope about gambits rather than appearances, is being merged into Complexity Addiction. There isn't enough context to tell if this is misuse or not. If it's valid, please add it back under Complexity Addiction with an explanation of why the characters fit.

Fulcon
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10:32:56 AM Feb 21st 2011
Have Batman ever had a serious, wall's coming down, vicious Deconstruction?

People seem intent on deconstructing Superman every day, so why not Batman?
PriceCheck
01:10:17 PM Jul 14th 2013
Almost every major Batman work nowadays involves a deconstruction of some kind, although I'm not sure if there's one that tries to address everything—Notably, The Dark Knight Returns, The Killing Joke, The Dark Knight and The Dark Knight Rises, Arkham City, and so on. Things commonly addressed are Batman's moral code, his tactics, the way he treats his followers, his attraction to dangerous women, the relationship he has with his villains (oftentimes the Joker), etc.

The thing about them though is that they almost always involve a Reconstruction afterwards. A reaffirmation of what he believes, something that proves he's making a difference, or a way for him to save the day even with all of the flaws in his game plan. The other problem is that Batman has so many interpretations that it's hard to tell what exactly should be deconstructed. Batman of the Silver Age? The Dark Age? DCAU Batman? They're all different.

So, um, to answer your question, no?
Unhappy
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09:54:26 AM Jan 25th 2011
why is fanfiction eg CA Tverse listed on this page?
PriceCheck
04:57:12 PM May 30th 2013
edited by 216.99.32.44
Do you mean the Cat Tales?

For that matter, isn't Batgirl Spoiled also a fan work? And the Joker Blogs?
168.221.159.24
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11:18:29 AM Sep 28th 2010
edited by 168.221.159.24
I keep seeing that picture of Batman having all the D&D alignment but i have no idea where most of thouse instances are from. Can someone tell me what comics the pictures are from. especially the ice cream one.
godhumanmonster
03:17:17 AM Nov 27th 2010
The ice cream picture was from the miniseries "Batman: Jekyll & Hyde".
MrBlonde267
03:47:10 AM Apr 28th 2011
The CMOA page proudly boasts that Batman is the only character in history to make all nine D&D character alignments... has he ever really been chaotic evil? The man he's kicking for eating ice cream does coincidentally happen to be Two-Face.
arromdee
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11:18:55 AM Mar 8th 2010
Well, here we go. The Comicbook/Batman and Main/Batman pages were both the usual comic book character pages, to the extent where they both had long lists of tropes, Batman's appearances in film, etc. I merged these as best possible (including merging the two trope lists).

I haven't tried to fix any other problems, so you might notice that some tropes are only about specific characters like the Joker and are questionable on the main page.
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