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Alexlayer (Old Master)
Nov 12th 2015 at 9:03:10 PM •••

If a fanfic is mainly set in the Equestria Girls universe, should it go to the category of "General" or "Human"?

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Nov 13th 2015 at 1:53:53 AM •••

Which species are the characters from?

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
JustBuckyRed Since: Jun, 2014
Jul 20th 2014 at 12:20:28 AM •••

I put together a works page for DSNesmith The Age of Wings and Steel. I've already sent the title through to have it's punctuation fixed by a mod, and would love and greatly appreciate any additional help with adding tropes or cleaning the page up.

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MaddKossack115 Since: Jun, 2013
Jan 16th 2014 at 7:48:19 PM •••

I found two videogame crossovers on Fimfiction that I think can be added to the fanfic recommendation list, and probably deserve a couple of Tropes pages too (may need some help getting those up).

First one is this crossover with World In Conflict: http://www.fimfiction.net/story/99559/world-in-conflict-unknown-force

(May or may not also get a separate trope page for it's sequel here: http://www.fimfiction.net/story/107211/equestria-in-conflict-discovering-home)

Second one is this crossover with Command And Conquer Generals: http://www.fimfiction.net/story/38158/from-the-general

Please reply if you approve of these recommendations, and also if you want to help build the Trope pages.

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Jan 17th 2014 at 12:45:59 AM •••

Well, if you want to recommend them for reading, just add them to the appropriate section.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
WILIZIN Since: Apr, 2013
Mar 18th 2013 at 2:59:15 PM •••

I thought this fic was quite good and maybe even worthy of its own page. "The Piano Man" Act one http://www.fimfiction.net/story/35169/the-piano-man Act two http://www.fimfiction.net/story/44381/the-piano-man-act-ii

The story is about a guy who gets pulled into Equestria, and turned into a slave by Trixie to play the Piano, or ELSE. Deals with a lot of heavy stuff such as torture, insanity, losing the will to live, attempted suicide and hopelessness. The second act is all about his road to recovery and the PTSD of being a victim of a insane pony. Written fairly well.

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Peteman Since: Jan, 2001
WILIZIN Since: Apr, 2013
Mar 18th 2013 at 10:29:16 PM •••

I know as much about making trope pages as I do about quantum entanglement.

Iaculus Since: May, 2010
Mar 19th 2013 at 3:22:26 AM •••

It's quite simple. Use this empty page. Write up a brief description and synopsis, then add tropes using the format you see on other works pages. If you want to add examples from the fic to other trope pages (for instance, Driven to Suicide), link them tto that page.

What's precedent ever done for us?
WILIZIN Since: Apr, 2013
Mar 19th 2013 at 9:49:11 AM •••

Well now! Now I have something to do after work today! Thank you very much laculus.

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Iaculus Since: May, 2010
Mar 19th 2013 at 9:52:51 AM •••

No big. FYI, this page may also help.

Edited by Iaculus What's precedent ever done for us?
Djanchorhead Since: Jan, 2013
Feb 8th 2013 at 4:43:00 AM •••

I would like to add Pages Of Harmony for consideration on the Fanfic recs page,Just be warned it is a grimdark fic and it contains very graphic content. http://www.fimfiction.net/story/5882/pages-of-harmony

If you want to make enemies try and change something - Woodrow Wilson
Iaculus Since: May, 2010
Feb 8th 2013 at 10:56:59 AM •••

If you want to recommend them, recommend them. Use the template on the main Fan Fic Recommendations page, and remember to link a review.

What's precedent ever done for us?
MisterBeeg Since: Dec, 2012
Jan 17th 2013 at 8:12:52 PM •••

Just wondering what you guys think of this fic.

This is more or less a social satire. The story is that all the male in Equestria (including Big Macintosh, Mr. Cake, and Spike) go on strike for gender equality.

The entire story mirrors the feminist movement, except that since Equestria is a matriarchy society, the males are the oppressed ones. Common gender-related tropes are reversed here; in one chapter Mr. Cake banishes Mrs. Cake to the couch.

http://www.fimfiction.net/story/76119/stallions-on-strike

(And NO, it's not related to MRA movement. The point is that this is a Pony equivalent of feminist movement)

Iaculus Since: May, 2010
Jan 2nd 2013 at 1:53:59 AM •••

Then recommend it using the standard format.

What's precedent ever done for us?
RLYoshi Since: Apr, 2011
Apr 28th 2012 at 11:17:48 AM •••

I'm confused. The page says you may feel free to add your own fics, but everyone else says that you're not allowed. I'm confused now.

Personally, I don't want to advertise my own fics (if they're good enough, people will put them here on their own), but I want to get this sorted out before someone goes and posts their own fic when they're not actually allowed to, or something.

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Telcontar MOD Since: Feb, 2012
Apr 28th 2012 at 11:21:31 AM •••

As far as I can tell, you can rec your own fic but it is strongly discouraged/frowned upon.

That was the amazing part. Things just keep going.
Telcontar MOD Since: Feb, 2012
Jul 18th 2012 at 11:40:14 PM •••

A thread in FAQ since my last post has confirmed that self-recs are actuallyzap-on-sight.

That was the amazing part. Things just keep going.
31Darkstar Since: Jun, 2012
duo2nd Since: Mar, 2012
Jun 16th 2012 at 3:23:58 AM •••

Well I kinda spent my time reading this fanfic here: http://www.fimfiction.net/story/7688/The-Third-Generation

I do think "The Third Generation" is shaping up to be a good crossover story despite that it has some flaws in the grammar. Thought if G3 is not your game well its ok.

BTW: Why is no one suggesting "Lost Symphonies" yet?

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zarpaulus Since: Jan, 2001
Jun 9th 2012 at 9:06:14 PM •••

I was thinking that we should make a page for Grimdark fics.

But since there's so many of them and they usually count as one of the pre-existing categories it might make more sense to make "Grimdark" an internal page division, on the General, Crossover, and Humans pages at least.

Salnax1 Since: Oct, 2010
Oct 4th 2011 at 9:47:21 PM •••

This page is starting to become very large. My mobile device had trouble downloading it. At what point would it make sense to split it ala the Naruto and Harry Potter fanfics?

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Salnax1 Since: Oct, 2010
DocumentN Since: Jan, 2001
Apr 28th 2012 at 2:43:59 PM •••

I vote for now. I think the only reason it hasn't been is because nobody's wanted to take the time.

Telcontar MOD Since: Feb, 2012
Apr 29th 2012 at 2:24:49 AM •••

There's a thread in Special Efforts for splitting pages once they read 400,000 characters (they start causing problems at 500k). This page is currently at 394,074 characters, so it'll probably be flagged the next time we get an updated list. Go ahead and split it if you want to.

That was the amazing part. Things just keep going.
DreadedCandiru2 Since: Jun, 2009
Apr 5th 2012 at 5:33:37 PM •••

I'd like to recommend the fanfic "Elementals of Harmony" if I may; it's a fairly good cross-over between MLP:FIM and Magic the Gathering that has Ditzy as a planeswalker.

techogre Since: Feb, 2012
Mar 30th 2012 at 7:50:31 PM •••

If it's in bad taste to recommend your own fanfic, then please ignore this. My fanfic Memoirs of a Reality Jumper has had some positive reception, and I hope some one here will enjoy it too.

http://www.fimfiction.net/story/9689/The-Memoirs-Of-A-Reality-Jumper

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GameChainsaw The Shadows Devour You. Since: Oct, 2010
The Shadows Devour You.
Mar 25th 2012 at 11:54:35 AM •••

The following stories are seriously creepy, all involving explicit sex between underage characters. I would have just nuked them outright, but there seems to be a mechanism for removing particularly bad fanfiction through discussion.

When The Apple Bloomed, Spikes Sexual Revolution and The Back Door are all targeted for deletion in my eyes. I'm here to build consensus to remove these. I'd like to remind people that there's a difference between simply discussing a works existence neutrally (that's what a works page is for; its supposed to be a neutral analysis, not a place to gush) and actively recommending something.

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BornIn1142 Since: Jan, 2001
Mar 25th 2012 at 1:11:38 PM •••

Well, I haven't read the stories in question, but... the criteria I use for determining tastelessness in incidents like this is trying to imagine what kind of story would make a random guest on this page go "Wow, these tropers are sick freaks!"

In this particular case, it seems the stories in question qualify... but so do several other sexually explicit fics among the recommendations, I think. The age of the characters in question only makes it worse. So as far as I'm concerned, something like this should be removed, yes.

Iaculus Since: May, 2010
Mar 26th 2012 at 2:42:49 PM •••

It usually takes overwhelming consensus to remove a fanfic. In the meantime, I suggest adding reviews to the appropriate tags - if you think a fic's creepy, tell us about it.

What's precedent ever done for us?
CrypticMirror Since: Jan, 2001
Mar 27th 2012 at 1:59:43 PM •••

Creepy is subjective. Our goal is No Lewdness, No Prudishness. Just make sure they are tagged appropriately and let people make up their own mind. Leave a review (substantive of course) if you feel particularly strongly about it.

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gamlin Since: Dec, 2011
Feb 13th 2012 at 5:02:08 AM •••

I want to recommend "Lost Symphonies" into the fanfic list

NOTE: NEVERMIND! I NEVER READ THE SERIOUS RULES :<

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REV6Pilot Since: Jan, 2011
Feb 13th 2012 at 5:06:27 AM •••

Self-promotion is frowned upon here.

gamlin Since: Dec, 2011
Feb 13th 2012 at 7:52:03 AM •••

Great....JUST GREAT. *Serious Sarcasm*

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AppleDashWINS Since: Nov, 2011
Jan 20th 2012 at 6:24:10 AM •••

Is there a specific requirement for fics to have their own page?

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AppleDashWINS Since: Nov, 2011
Jan 20th 2012 at 9:33:35 AM •••

Ah, okay, then it's just a matter of starting a new page and, as others have mentioned abotve, discussing if it needs to be there?

REV6Pilot Since: Jan, 2011
Jan 21st 2012 at 1:08:48 AM •••

Exactly. Go right ahead, Be Bold. Just remember to keep the page according to the wiki's standards.

linuslion Since: May, 2011
Jan 1st 2012 at 6:13:42 PM •••

I already listed it in the shipping section, but what do you think of "Spike's Sexual Revolution"?

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/7322029/1/Spikes_Sexual_Revolution

Just a warning that it's a clopfic, abet the kind with actual story. It can be described as "Romance Reports" with Spike as the lead.

Firerush Firerush Since: Feb, 2011
Firerush
Dec 23rd 2011 at 10:24:44 AM •••

I'd like to recommened "Life in a slower lane"

http://www.fimfiction.net/story/2625/Life-in-a-slower-lane.

It's a great piece of Scootalove and is the most in-character of all teh scootalove pieces I've read. It just recently finished and I think everypony should read it.

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REV6Pilot Since: Jan, 2011
Dec 24th 2011 at 9:07:32 AM •••

Go ahead, no one's stopping you! Just be careful to add the proper data, like author, genre, pairings and status.

Firerush Since: Feb, 2011
Dec 24th 2011 at 12:04:48 PM •••

I thought I had to wait for people to read and approve it then let some sort of moderator post it up.

Speed is key
REV6Pilot Since: Jan, 2011
Dec 24th 2011 at 7:22:53 PM •••

Nope. You go ahead and put it there. People can agree or disagree about it later.

/ That's right, forgot about that part.

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Iaculus Since: May, 2010
Dec 25th 2011 at 2:11:33 AM •••

Unless it's your own work. We're a tool for readers, not an advertising service for writers.

Yeah, that's happened before.

What's precedent ever done for us?
linuslion Since: May, 2011
CharginChuck Since: Jan, 2011
Nov 11th 2011 at 3:27:21 PM •••

Should crossover fics have a section in the description to specify what they're crossing over with? A lot of them are fairly obvious from the title or description, but not all of them, and either way it would be useful to be able to see it right away in order to help people decide whether it's something that might interest them. I would be more then happy to do this for all the fics currently listed if anyone else thinks it's a good idea.

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CrypticMirror Since: Jan, 2001
Dec 3rd 2011 at 1:46:06 PM •••

It should be mentioned in "tags" if there are any known crossovers, see the example template on the main fanfic index page for the required format for any recs.

SomeNewGuy Since: Jun, 2009
Dec 3rd 2011 at 1:36:53 PM •••

I object to the inclusion of What's eating Rainbow Dash. Its basically a giant soapbox against the episode, strawmanning and villifying those who support the other Mane Five.

Not to mention the other admitted that he intially wanted to have Dash commit suicide, and had to be talked out of it. Killing yourself over being humbled. Yeah, real mature.

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CrypticMirror Since: Jan, 2001
Dec 3rd 2011 at 1:44:41 PM •••

then leave a review stating your opinion. Remember, not everyone has the same tastes in fic and it is just your opinion. And don't read it again if you didn't like it.

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DreadedCandiru2 Since: Jun, 2009
Sep 27th 2011 at 3:50:01 PM •••

Has anyone thought to look at the "Knights of Equestria" series by Solaris90? [http://solaris90.deviantart.com/art/Knights-of-Equestria-Part-1-205456422] The author is expanding on the universe that was established in "It's A Dangerous Business Going Out Your Door" and made it even more Tolkienian than ever. Book Two is even called "The Two Powers" and features Shield Maiden. (At one point, she notices that she and Ditzy both have coats of the same shade of bluish-gray.)

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SecondSeraphim Since: May, 2011
Nov 18th 2011 at 5:39:14 PM •••

I was actually wanting to make a trope page for it, but I'm new to TV Tropes and am not sure how, or even where to begin gathering tropes together.

brony99 Since: Sep, 2011
Nov 2nd 2011 at 1:36:04 PM •••

there was a suggestion to something I wrote in the Headscratchers page that I might want to explore the possibility of. this user suggested contacting another user called, Aurabolt, I assume because he's in charge of reviewing these fic recs.

I'd like to know where to find Aurabolt but am a little unsure. wile the story is well written, has it's hartwarming moments and the characterizations are almost perfectly correct, it's technically rule 34. however, the only sexual thrill would be on the part of the reader and not the characters. the fic is presented only partially as wanking material and otherwise presented as a straight up What If?.

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Iaculus Since: May, 2010
Nov 2nd 2011 at 4:48:26 PM •••

There is no one person in charge of reviewing recs, and nor should there be. If you think a story deserves to be on here, add it yourself and link your own review explaining why it's good.

What's precedent ever done for us?
CharginChuck Since: Jan, 2011
Nov 11th 2011 at 3:29:28 PM •••

If you do add such a story, I would just recommend that you specify in the description that it's intended for mature readers.

Ermine Since: Aug, 2010
Sep 15th 2011 at 6:22:30 AM •••

Should Silent Ponyville 2 be considered a separate story or a subcategory to the original? If we are to consider it separatley, it should be deleted until it can get the approriate recommendations.

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conchshellthegeek7 Since: Mar, 2010
Sep 21st 2011 at 4:52:25 PM •••

I think it should be kept as a subcategory. It's a good story and all, but you won't understand some parts of it if you haven't read the original. This way, you can encourage people to read the original first, which leads to better reading comprehension.

This is what I do. Why I do it is up to you do figure out.
NAGU360 Since: Jan, 2011
Oct 8th 2011 at 1:52:56 PM •••

Uhhhh... it looks like the Silent Ponyville continuity has gone the way of Fallout: Equestria and spawned a pile of Recursive Fanfiction... Should we include those stories that are complete to the rec. list as a subcategory, or should we just give the continuity its own page and include any notable spinoffs there?

JamesEM73 Since: Sep, 2010
Oct 25th 2011 at 9:15:26 PM •••

It'd probably be easier to give it its own page and list them there. Besides, it totally deserves its own page by now anyway.

IKillWithCute Since: Jul, 2011
Oct 1st 2011 at 4:05:35 PM •••

Should Dark Fics be given thier own folder?

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zerky Since: Jan, 2001
Sep 12th 2011 at 11:41:10 AM •••

Would it be okay to alphabetize the fics here for easier browsing? The random order they're in atm is driving zerky to drink.

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CrypticMirror Since: Jan, 2001
Sep 12th 2011 at 2:37:30 PM •••

If you want to make page changes then while you are at it, yank the "comments" field and replace it with the reviews code as per the main Fan Fic Recommendations index page. The page should never have been created with "comments", that field is obsolete and not supposed to be used.

WhitebeardYamato Since: Jul, 2011
Sep 15th 2011 at 12:28:22 AM •••

Zerky deleated all the comments.

Zerky delated all the comments

Zerky deleated all the comments.

I mean, he just deleated them. The reviews are empty and every comment was just simply throw away. He should have put the comments in reviews or ask in the Forum to the tropers to put them before just yanking everything out.

In what part of the Fanfic Recommendations Index page said one could do that? It said that one could put comments as long they where substantial or do reviews and MLFP is the only tread who had reased every single comment from the page.

And cryptic Mirror, can you decided that something is "obsolete" when not put in vote to the Forum at large?. That is effort from the Tropers who was simply deemed unworthy and destroyed by two people.

CrypticMirror Since: Jan, 2001
Sep 15th 2011 at 2:59:43 PM •••

The discussion on the removal of the "comments" field and creation of the reviews code was had well over a year ago. It was done across several discussion pages and the forums, and ultimately Fast Eddie agreed to it then. The format for the recommendations was changed then, the problem has been that people who created new Fan Fic recs pages have not bothered to to read that page, even after the format was moved up to the very top of the fanfic recs index page and kept right on shoving comments in to gush, bitch, or natter on their recs. New recs should never have a comments field, even if the rest of the page does, new pages should never have a single comments field on them. This was all hammered out well over a year ago, just people keep trying to ignore it.

As for conversion of comments to reviews. It's a lose/lose for every troper that does it. Convert the comments to reviews, you get bitchy P Ms demanding you don't put other people's comments there. Wipe them, you get bitchy P Ms from people upset their comment wasn't considered important enough. Ask people to move them themselves you get a resounding silence. Ask people to follow the format that was agreed to, again, well over a year ago and has been pushed ever since, and they ignore it and keep firing in comments. if you're upset about someone wiping them, lend a hand to convert them and try to work to stop people putting in comments instead of reviews to start with.

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MugenKagemaru The Social Outcast Since: Oct, 2010
The Social Outcast
Aug 9th 2011 at 9:30:09 PM •••

Can we refrain from posting dA links, for the sakes of those without dA accounts?

I ask mostly because some of the dA fics are Members Only, and it isn't fair for some people to get locked out just because they don't have dA accounts for one reason or another.

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Iaculus Since: May, 2010
Aug 10th 2011 at 12:54:05 AM •••

Assuming, of course, that the fics in question do not exist exclusively on deviantart.

What's precedent ever done for us?
Godzillawolf Since: Jul, 2010
Sep 6th 2011 at 11:13:24 AM •••

Agreed with Laculus, it's not fair to ban dA links if that's the only place they're located. If they're in multiple places, the logical thing to do is for someone to change the link to a better location. But I don't think it's fair to ban them if that's the only place they're located.

Ardashir Since: Jul, 2010
Aug 8th 2011 at 8:36:53 PM •••

I've read this story and it seems amazing: http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/08/story-nightmare-state-of-mind.html

Done by the same author as "It's A Dangerous Business, Going Out Your Door", but ending not nearly so well for some of the mane cast. Indeed, it basically ends with Rarity replacing Nightmare Moon and becoming the Dark Lord of Equestria, and it does so in a way that feels like it could work. You can see her doing all of this with the very best intentions, which makes it even more horrible.

So, does it need any other people willing to recommend it before posting on the main page, or can I just go ahead and put it up?

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Iaculus Since: May, 2010
Aug 9th 2011 at 12:22:26 AM •••

Just do it. If people agree, they'll second you.

Oh, and remember to use the new format, with a linked review and so on.

What's precedent ever done for us?
Ardashir Since: Jul, 2010
Aug 9th 2011 at 11:10:14 PM •••

Thank you, Iaculus, I'll see about doing that in a little while.

Jayrad Since: Dec, 1969
Jun 7th 2011 at 7:05:40 PM •••

Would anyone mind if I added Equestria Daily to this? While it is not a fanfic itself, it does list many good MLP: Fi M fanfics. Most of the entries here link there anyway. I'm thinking something like this:

Equestria Daily

  • Recommended by Jayrad
  • Synopsis: The MLP: Fi M fansite. In addition to other fanworks on the site, its archive of fanfics can be found here, or if that list hasn't been updated recently, the individual posts for each story can be found here. Every story is reviewed by pre-readers before being posted, so only good stories will be posted.
  • Comments: Of particular note are the 5 star and 6 star rated stories.

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Iaculus Since: May, 2010
Jun 7th 2011 at 8:00:25 PM •••

Put it in the Authors and Websites category. Most of our recs pages have one.

What's precedent ever done for us?
ChibiKibou Since: Oct, 2010
Jul 28th 2011 at 9:57:14 AM •••

I've added reference to a MUSH, Equestrian Dawn, under the Authors and Websites category, as was suggested above. I hope it's alright; it seemed a shame not to mention it at all, and I've done my best to keep to the proper format. Please, feel free to fix any mistakes I might have made while adding it.

Also, I don't suppose it's possible to recommend an already recommended 'fic, is it? I'd rather like to put my name and a comment of my own beside Past Sins as well, though I understand if that isn't doable.

.. Drat, I meant to make this its own topic; wrong button. Oh well, I suppose it's appropriate enough on the end of this one. Still, sorry about that.

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Iaculus Since: May, 2010
Jul 29th 2011 at 12:06:16 PM •••

If you want to second a rec, add your name to the 'Recommended by...' section and add another review to the Reviews tab (which, for the record, is what the fics are supposed to have instead of Comments sections in order to save space and keep things tidy).

What's precedent ever done for us?
ChibiKibou Since: Oct, 2010
Jul 29th 2011 at 4:48:10 PM •••

Thank you! I'll look into doing as much.

Flamester Since: Dec, 1969
May 14th 2011 at 3:58:57 PM •••

This is one of the best Fi M fics I have read, on par with the portal crossover one at the very least, I would appreciate if someone more used to this type of thing would read and recommended this. http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6899006/1/Dungeons_Dragons_and_a_Little_Friendship

92.5.14.154 Since: Dec, 1969
May 4th 2011 at 8:51:53 AM •••

Taking a hint from the Team Fortress 2 page for fanfic recs, should we add a section or two for other fan works, such as art or videos?

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Alexlayer (Old Master)
May 4th 2011 at 11:35:54 AM •••

If you can keep it well organized, I don't see why not.

Captainhook Since: Apr, 2011
May 10th 2011 at 8:40:06 PM •••

Why are we recommending Bittersweet, again? The plot just plods along with no development until the end, when the author hastily tries to shoehorn some in. It's no more than glorified sadness porn. Sorn, if you will. It's so flat, so unsubtle, and so full of Narm, I can't leave it on Fanfic Recommendations with a clear conscience. Does anybody else think it's too much of an over-the-top bore to stay here?

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TheOtherSteve Since: Jan, 2001
May 10th 2011 at 8:45:42 PM •••

Fanfic Recommendations isn't about showing the cream of the crop. It's about recommding the fics that you, personally, think deserve to be read by other people. People will have different opinions about it, much as you do. What matters is that the fic is posted and recommended to people. And besides, no one is forcing you to read the fic. So it stays.

Iaculus Since: May, 2010
May 11th 2011 at 6:56:49 AM •••

Note the reviews function, as explained on the main Fan Fic Recommendations page. If you don't like it, add a review for it.

Of course, there is precedent for fics with overwhelmingly negative reviews being removed from the recs page, but the emphasis here is on overwhelmingly. Not just 'one person doesn't like it'.

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Jayrad Since: Dec, 1969
May 13th 2011 at 9:40:26 AM •••

To actually get back on topic, I think that, if nothing else, we should at least link to Equestria Daily. It looks like most of the fics here come from there anyway.

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