Jojo's Bizarre Adventure

When Speedwagon says Dio Brando was born evil, who actually buys that's the case? Because I certainly don't. Oh sure, any Freudian Excuse is null and void considering when George serves as the father he needs Dio tries to kill him, but I'm pretty sure if Dario was a loving parent and the family wasn't so poor off it doesn't mean he'd be the same evil maniac

I imagine that if Dario was a good father, Dio would probably still be ambitious and ruthless but he'd be constructive in it and pretty much ordinary. Even people who are The Sociopath are still capable of not being evil.

There's actually some evidence for and against the argument for the source of Dio's evil. Against it is his own son, Giorno Giovanna. Giorno is essentially Dio's Good Counterpart; ruthless, ambitious, but Gio uses it to help people. Though it kind of gets muddy with the fact he's genetically a Joestar, which makes thing unclear if its In the Blood.

In the nature vs nurture argument Dio's the most ambiguous of the main villains. Kars was simply amoral, Kira's evil comes from impulse issues, Diavolo Used to Be a Sweet Kid before snapping because wtf and Enrico Pucci/Funny Valentine were made villains due to circumstance

But not even one ten thousandth the *incomprehensible swear* Dio is

edited 29th Nov '16 12:26:21 AM by RJ-19-CLOVIS-93

We do, however, have evidence that maybe Dio always was evil: In the Alternate Universe starting with Part 7, Diego Brando has a life of wealth and privilege with a loving family, while Johnny Joestar is a paraplegic. Diego's still a cunt.

Yeah, Diego's a hell of a lot less evil than Dio.

edited 29th Nov '16 12:30:56 AM by Gilphon

Diego only got his life of wealth and privilege after he decided to achieve glory to get back at the people who humiliated his mother though.

Also Diego was never raised by Dario, but by his mother.

What I'm getting at with Diego is that Dio would probably still be evil no matter what, but if he was raised with love and care he'd be A Lighter Shade of Black compared to normal Dio. In other words, he's a product of both nature versus nurture.

Which is basically how humans work. Basic instinctive drives influence decisions while we are products of the environments that shape us.

It never is nature vs nurture, it's always a bit of both.

In fairness, cases where antisocial behavior is inherited are generally regarded as mental disorders, I think.

edited 29th Nov '16 11:47:53 PM by illegalcheese

Araki won a price.

I wonder if Enya actually knew the full extent of J Geil's evil or if she's that morally myopic. I don't expect J Geil to reveal just what horrors he's done given despite his Evil Gloating, there's enough of a brain in his skull to know "don't incriminate yourself" and he only reveals information to someone who already knows and/or plans to kill out of sight from the authorities. Come to think of it, I wonder what J Geil thought about his mom

I imagine they had a relationship similar to Kira and Yoshihiro.

The mystery is solved, time to import water from Japan.

Eternal youth here I come.

Today's episode has a special OP.

Nicenicenice. Been waiting for that ever since the full version of Great Days came out.

I can't believe they didn't end the episode here.◊

I really want Kira to get another Ora Ora beatdown. The things he does to the poor kid is fucked up.

Crazy Diamond is Unbreakable.

I thought the end of this week's episode would be the lead in to that.

Shining Diamond is Unbreakable :p

edited 2nd Dec '16 5:33:01 PM by Soble

Eats the Dust

I think they chose that cutoff point for maximum tension and sorrow. Of course most people have read the manga so, yeah. But really the last chapter of Bites the Dust is just a smooth segue into the first chapter of Unbreakable Crazy Diamond.

DID KIRA TOTALLY MURDER ROHAN'S SOUL!? IS HE DEADER THEN DEAD!? WHERE THE HELL DOES A DESTROYED SOUL GO?!

Alright. I know the meme is "King Crimson - it just works."

And I know I wasn't too fond of this Part before Kira showed up. And then it got kind of confusing when he became Kawajiri. Then it got good again when that cat plant sh't started.

But.

KILL-LUR KWEEN's third ability, Bites the Dust?

Holy.

F'cking.

Sh't.

What. The F'ck. Is that? It's like a Hogyuku that actually works. Or the Hogyuku is a sh'tty version of Bites the Dust. I don't care, but what even.

And the way this arc is written I mean. It's brilliant, but it's... bizarre... how do you write this stuff? Like all the wacky Stand users from the earlier episodes (with the exception of that chef guy) have in some way become relevant, or their abilities more interesting. And people like Rohan and Jotaro somehow don't have the most broken abilities. Bites the Dust would be an awful God-Mode Sue power anywhere but somehow, because the heroes already have broken abilities like "fix anything, stop time, make manga effects real" it makes Kira's "blow sh't up" upgrading to "blow sh't up if it so much as looks at me, or anything I paint as a target funny, remotely, without me even being there, completely warping reality to protect me" work plotwise.

/gush

edited 2nd Dec '16 8:54:13 PM by Soble

You only just now got a taste of Araki's growing expertise and imagination. Parts 5, 6, and 7 have abilities that are equally Mind Screw-y or even moreso. It gets VERY high-concept.