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To-do list:

  • Rename Guttural Growler to Raspy And Tough and retool it directly (as opposed to launching a new trope) to refer to where a raspy voice is used to symbolize the character being tough, and make it a unisex trope about the general "raspy=tough" idea.

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From what I saw on this site, Guttural Growler seems to have a confusing definition. It is often stated to be "character has a low, raspy voice", which isn't exactly a trope and would fit much better on things like Evil Sounds Raspy (raspy voices signifying evil characters) or Tomboyish Voice (a girl with a raspy voice to signify her as a tomboy). So I think a wick check is in order.

Here's the check (with organizing help from Yindee) and the results:

  • Gruff/Raspy voice with some context (10/50)
  • Chairs (22/50)
  • ZCE (14/50)
  • Unsure (4/50)


Solutions:
  • Create a trope where a raspy is voice is used to symbolize the character being tough. Make a male-centric example to a "Tough guy with raspy voice" example and move female examples to Tomboyish Voice. If not, we can create a unisex trope about the general "raspy=tough" idea. (though that might also need a seperate wick check for TV).
  • Rename and redefine the trope (in-line with the first solution)

Wick check:

From what I saw on this site, Guttural Growler seems to have a confusing definition. It is often stated to be "character has a low, raspy voice", which isn't exactly a trope and would fit much better on things like Evil Sounds Raspy (raspy voices signifying evil characters) or Tomboyish Voice (a girl with a raspy voice to signify her as a tomboy). So I think a wick check is in order.
(50/50)

  • Gruff/Raspy voice with some context (10/50)
  • Chairs (22/50)
  • ZCE (14/50)
  • Unsure (4/50)


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     Gruff/Raspy voice with some context (10/50) 
  1. Characters.Condemned Criminal Origins (Director Ike Ferrel) /Guttural Growler: While he sounds perfectly normal in the first game, the second game has him speaking in a very harsh and gravelly voice. The metal implants in his body may have something to do with it. has some context
  2. Characters.Dishonored Daud And Billie Lurk (Daud) /Guttural Growler: Regardless of your chaos level his voice will always be deep and raspy which does help his intimidating presence. Gruff/Raspy voice with some context
  3. Characters.Dragon Calling Antagonists And Villains (Sadukravon) /Guttural Growler: Being a manticor, he often rumbles and growls in what one would imagine a lion-like manner. has some context
  4. Characters.Fire Emblem Three Houses Dimitri /Guttural Growler: Post-timeskip on the Azure Moon and Verdant Wind routes, Dimitri has a deeper, more aggressive voice and growls nearly every line he speaks. On the Azure Moon route, after he realizes what kind of person he's become and takes a turn for the better, his voice softens a little, though he still growls at his enemies in battle. has some context
  5. Characters.Five Nights At Freddys William Afton (Scraptrap) /Guttural Growler: He speaks with a creepy, growling voice. Seeing as Afton spoke more clearly in the opening to Sister Location, it's fair to say that decades trapped in a rotting suit didn't do his vocal cords any good. has some context
  6. Characters.Malus Darkblade (Malus' Family/Isilvar) /Guttural Growler: He has a low, rasping voice, the result of Malus stabbing him in the throat when the Cult of Slaanesh's hideout was raided by Khainite warriors. has some context
  7. Characters.The Righteous Gemstones Other Characters (The Devil) /Guttural Growler: This is actually a plot point. Scotty has a low, scary voice but he lowers it even further into a harsh snarl to disguise his identity when blackmailing Jesse. has some context
  8. Characters.Spec Ops The Line (Walker) /Guttural Growler: As the campaign goes on and Walker continues losing his mind, his combat barks become more feral and psychotic and he starts straight growling, throat tearing and all, a lot more. has some context
  9. Characters.Star Wars The Mandalorian Character Sheet /Guttural Growler: He speaks with a tough-sounding rasp. It usually seems due to his helmet distorting his voice, but he still sounds hoarse even without it. has some context
  10. Characters.Uncut Gems (Phil & Nico) /Guttural Growler: Phil has a deep and raspy voice. has some context, but it's kinds written as natter

    Chairs (22/50) 
  1. Characters.Bloodborne Secondary Characters (Valtr) /Guttural Growler: He has a very deep, guttural voice, unlike Solaire. chairs
  2. Characters.Critical Role Darrington Brigade (Buddy) /Guttural Growler: Liam plays him with a very deep, gravelly voice. chairs
  3. Characters.Dark Souls II Secondary Characters (Benhart of Jugo) /Guttural Growler: Speaks with a deep, gravelly voice: his heavy Scottish accent only makes it more recognizable. chairs
  4. Characters.DCEU General Zod /Guttural Growler: Zod normally has an even-toned voice, but when he's feeling aggressive his voice will suddenly become noticably coarse. chairs
  5. Characters.The Despair In Our Stars (Female Students/Natsuki Sumeragi) /Guttural Growler: Her actual voice is rather low, especially for a girl. chairs
  6. Characters.El Cid 2020 Kingdom Of Leon (King Fernando I of León) /Guttural Growler: Has an impressively growling voice when speaking. chairs
  7. Characters.Escape From New York (Snake Plissken) /Guttural Growler: His voice is raspy and hoarse. Kurt Russell said he inspired it by Clint Eastwood. chairs
  8. Characters.Genshin Impact Zhongli /Guttural Growler: His grunts and combat voicelines make him come across as this, though in English Keith Silverstein gives him an even more noticeable growl. chairs
  9. Characters.Grandmaster Of Demonic Cultivation Mo Dao Zu Shi Nie Clan Of Qinghe (Nie Mingjue) /Guttural Growler: In the Japanese audio drama, kudos of his voice actor Kenjiro Tsuda, Nie Mingjue had a deep and raspy voice. chairs
  10. Characters.Immortals Fenyx Rising (Ares) /Guttural Growler: Even as a chicken, he talks in a booming, raspy voice. chairs
  11. Characters.The Land Before Time Sequel Films (Archie) /Guttural Growler: His first scene has him growling at an isolated Littlefoot in a way that makes him look like a threat, but he quickly mellows out once he sees that Littlefoot is just a lost kid and not a Sharptooth. seems like chairs
  12. Characters.Little Miss Sunshine (Secondary Characters/The Biker Dad) /Guttural Growler: Has a very raspy voice. chairs
  13. Characters.The Man In The High Castle Series Resistance (Gary) /Guttural Growler: He speaks with a low, raspy voice. chairs
  14. Characters.Masters Of The Universe The Evil Horde (Hordak) /Guttural Growler: In the 1980s She-Ra cartoon, Hordak has a raspy, abrasive voice. chairs
  15. Characters.Mortal Kombat 2021 (Scorpion) /Guttural Growler: As Scorpion, Hanzo's voice takes on a harsh, gravelly quality, especially evident in his iconic "GET OVER HERE!". chairs
  16. Characters.Popeye (Popeye The Sailor) /Guttural Growler: Has a low, gruff voice. chairs
  17. Characters.Regular Show Main Characters ( Muscle Man) /Guttural Growler: Has an exaggeratedly deep, growling voice, in contrast with the light, high voice of Pops and the more monotonous, slightly nasal tone of Benson (all performed by Sam Marin). chairs
  18. Characters.Saints Row The Third Street Saints (Oleg Kirlov) /Guttural Growler: He has a distinct gravelly voice. chairs
  19. Characters.A Song Of Ice And Fire Essos The Dothraki (General) /Guttural Growler: The Dothraki language is described as rough and harsh-sounding. chairs
  20. Characters.Star Wars Zygerria (Darts D'Nar) /Guttural Growler: He snarls and growls like an animal when he speaks. chairs
  21. Characters.Still Waters 1 (American Division Agents/Max Linell) Guttural Growler: His voice is deep and very rough sounding. chairs
  22. Characters.Zeno Clash (Playable Charactrs/Ghat) /Guttural Growler: Has a very harsh, yet actually somewhat quiet voice. Unless he's yelling, then he loses the rasp. chairs

     ZCE (14/50) 
  1. Characters.Arrowverse Hunter Zolomon /Guttural Growler: His disguised voice is even deeper and more demonic than the Reverse-Flash's voice. zce
  2. Characters.Batman Arkham Series Gotham Citizens (Alberto Falcone) /Guttural Growler: When he makes a threatening phone call to Roman Sionis in what sounds like his Holiday Killer persona. ZCE
  3. Characters.Citadel Of The Heart Digimon Re Tamers (Protagonists (canon)|Impmon) /Guttural Growler: How his Beelzemon form maintains his Badass Baritone of a fully evolved Digimon, due to the fact the English Dub of the original series had him constantly slip into his Impmon voice due to how rarely calm he was. ZCE
  4. Characters.Dragon Ball Tournament Characters (Giran) /Guttural Growler: He normally speaks in a deep growl. zce
  5. Characters.Final Fantasy Type 0 ( Marshal Cid Aulstyne) /Guttural Growler: His voice has a decent edge to it. zce
  6. Characters.Halo The Banished (Atriox) /Guttural Growler: Most noticeably when speaking in gameplay. zce
  7. Characters.Highlander (Connor MacLeod) /Guttural Growler: Part of his unique accent is a raspy intonation. zce
  8. Characters.I Am Alive (The Protagonist) /Guttural Growler: Not too deep but deep enough to sound like nails. zce
  9. Characters.Jade Empire (The Black Whirlwind) /Guttural Growler: He speaks with a growling baritone. zce
  10. Characters.Metal Gear Big Boss /Guttural Growler: Like father, like son. zce
  11. Characters.Oz Homeboys (Omar) /Guttural Growler: He has a very gravelly voice. zce
  12. Characters.Play Station All Stars Battle Royale Third Party And DLC (Raiden)/ Gutteral Growler zce
  13. Characters.Spider Man Shattered Dimensions (The Goblin) /Guttural Growler: Less so as a human, but his monster form ramps it up considerably. zce
  14. Characters.Syrellia (Recurring Characters/ A'idhul Rahman) /Guttural Growler: Remarked on a lot, as his voice is completely different from everyone else's. He knows it creeps people out. zce

     Unsure (4/50) 
  1. Characters.ERB Season 3 (Blackbeard) /Guttural Growler: He doesn't talk as much as he roars in the form of words. unsure
  2. Characters.Godzilla The Godzillas (Heisei Godzilla) /Guttural Growler: From 1984 to 1991, this Godzilla had a deeper, aggressive roar more akin to that of the original Godzilla, complete with ferocious growling sounds and snarls. Unsure
  3. Characters.Soul Eater Troubled Souls Project Omega (Primordial Form) /Guttural Growler: All it does is rasp and roar. It precedes the First Form, so it’s even more primitive than that prototype, despite being implied to possess more power. Unsure
  4. Characters.Yakuza 0 Sotenbori Residents (Wen Hai Lee) /Guttural Growler: His huge, muscular build is well-complemented by a coarse, gruff voice. unsure

Solutions:
  • Create a trope where a raspy is voice is used to symbolize the character being tough. Make a male-centric example to a "Tough guy with raspy voice" example and move female examples to Tomboyish Voice. If not, we can create a unisex trope about the general "raspy=tough" idea. (though that might also need a seperate wick check for TV).
  • Rename and redefine the trope (in-line with the first solution)

Edited by GastonRabbit on Jul 2nd 2023 at 2:19:22 PM

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#51: Nov 27th 2023 at 10:36:01 PM

[up]I remade and re-cut that page to see if that fixes the ghost wick.

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#52: Nov 27th 2023 at 10:37:50 PM

[up] It did. Thanks!

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#53: Nov 28th 2023 at 3:07:30 AM

Huh, looks like I neglected to pin the OP despite adding a to-do list, and despite the thread being made in early summer. Fixed that.

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#54: Dec 18th 2023 at 1:32:54 AM

Characters/ D-F and Half of the creator pages are dewicked.

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#55: Dec 18th 2023 at 9:00:09 PM

1400 wicks left.

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#56: Dec 25th 2023 at 9:37:29 PM

1256 wicks left. Once again letting everyone that the Rapsy And Tough TLP is up for grabs.

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#59: Dec 26th 2023 at 6:47:23 PM

[up][up] Goddamn mispellings, but that will probably be depricated anyway.

[up] Thanks Coach!

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#60: Jan 8th 2024 at 9:21:28 PM

Characters/ S is done. We are also at the triple digits wicks now (949 wicks).

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#61: Jan 12th 2024 at 9:33:48 PM

Characters/ is finally done! 696 wicks left.

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#62: Jan 17th 2024 at 8:38:55 PM

There's a ghost wick on LARP.The Duchy Of Linnagond. Can anyone remove that?

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#63: Jan 17th 2024 at 9:01:30 PM

For ghost wicks create a page with any wick then cutlist it.

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#64: Jan 24th 2024 at 4:50:57 AM

392 wicks now! After this, I'll move to the Archer Archetype cleanup.

Anyways, any updates on the Raspy And Tough TLP?

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#65: Jan 24th 2024 at 6:47:16 AM

[up] I can work on it more later this week. I can't promise that I'll get it done within the next couple of days, but thankfully there doesn't seem to be much left to do (might need to clarify the definition a bit, add more examples and bump, but that's it).

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#67: Jan 25th 2024 at 2:22:50 PM

Went ahead and cleaned up Series/. Lots of ZCEs, which makes cleanup rather easy, but does also make me wish there were more examples we could properly move to other tropes. While dewicking, I found this on The Larry Sanders Show:

Does this provide enough context that it can go on Raspy And Tough? I already threw it on the sandbox, but I wanted to check. There's also this example that was removed from Characters.The Witcher 2019 Protagonists:

  • Guttural Growler: Geralt speaks with a very guttural voice, which adds to his intimidating presence. It's basically Henry Cavill doing his Doug Cockle-as-Geralt impression, which isn't a surprise given his vocal love of the games.

I found this one removing a wick from The Witcher (2019); is this also enough to count for Raspy And Tough?

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#68: Jan 26th 2024 at 6:32:00 PM

All examples have been cleanup (barring a few Raspy And Tough wicks). Safe to close?

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#69: Jan 26th 2024 at 6:45:43 PM

Who will deal with the creation of Raspy And Tough? I'm still wondering about the examples I brought up above, and I've collected quite a few on my sandbox.

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#70: Jan 26th 2024 at 6:48:10 PM

That can be done in the TLP; the thread doesn't need to stay open until then.

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#71: Jan 26th 2024 at 7:12:43 PM

Sounds good. Do we get rid of Most Triumphant Example entries for disambiguated tropes? That's the only wick remaining that may need to be taken care of.

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#72: Jan 26th 2024 at 7:27:33 PM

Yeah, I think we do.

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#73: Jan 27th 2024 at 3:28:09 AM

Since this is done now. Closing up shop! We'll leave the Raspy And Tough entry at the hands of the TLP.

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Trope Repair Shop: Guttural Growler
29th Jun '23 10:31:50 AM

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Consensus was to rename Guttural Growler and retool it to refer to where a raspy voice is used to symbolize the character being tough, and make it a unisex trope about the general "raspy=tough" idea. What should the trope's new name be?

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