Does Not Illustrate: Interplay Of Sex And Violence

It says that the image was decided recently on the crowner thread but I don't remember it. Anyway, the illustration doesn't strike me as suitable for the trope. I get a Face Death with Dignity / Together in Death vibe from it but nothing that underscored the ambivalence of offering sex and violence side by side. Hence this suggestion.

edited 13th May '16 6:42:32 PM by eroock

This looks more like kink than violence.

Nah, Bond is being properly tortured.

My point is that the trope isn't about rough sex, it is about sex and violence becoming the same thing to those involved. In the images suggested, Bond is tied down and not (apparently) participating willingly.

Point taken. A vampire kiss scenario may fit better then.

I'd had some questions about the new pic, but when I was looking at the definition and examples I wasn't sure that we could find one that would adequately cover it beyond what's there now.

Would people feel better about the current pic if the caption provided the necessary context that this is a dream sequence?

^^^ That would probably end up looking too similar to Kiss of the Vampire or Hemo Erotic.

edited 4th May '16 11:30:57 AM by Morgenthaler

You've got roaming bands of armed, aggressive, tyrannical plumbers coming to your door, saying "Use our service, or else!"

If I understand correctly, this trope is a more violent/adult version of Slap-Slap-Kiss. Current is nowhere close.

edited 5th May '16 8:39:29 PM by eroock

Is it? The trope description is pretty opaque to me.

I'm gonna go with Keep Until Better Image Suggested.

You've got roaming bands of armed, aggressive, tyrannical plumbers coming to your door, saying "Use our service, or else!"

Current doesn't inform the trope and may lead to misuse. I think this scene from GoldenEye is an excellent demonstration of what we should be after. Either we can find something illustrative in that direction of we better keep the page blank for now.

You're mistaken about what the point of this trope is. The "more adult version of Slap-Slap-Kiss" you're thinking of is Destructo-Nookie.

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So how would you contrast this trope?

Interplay of Sex and Violence is a motif. A work is drawing on it when it places elements or symbols of the two in close proximity to each other for comparison and contrast to point to a theme.

In some ways you might consider Destructo-Nookie a subtrope, but I think it's also a distinction in high concept vs low concept - Destructo-Nookie indicates something about the characters, while Interplay of Sex and Violence says something (or tries to) about the ideas.

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Alright, then what's your opinion on current and the suggestions?

Personally I question if this should be a trope at all. In my opinion is should be merged with Sex Is Violence, as there isn't really any difference between the two that I can see.

Both the laconics are interchangeable indeed. Confirmed by a look at the Manga sectopn of Interplay of Sex and Violence. All examples are about fight or torture scenes that turn characters on.

edited 26th May '16 9:55:52 AM by eroock

As a rule of thumb, laconic pages tend not to be an reliable way of comparing two tropes.

You've got roaming bands of armed, aggressive, tyrannical plumbers coming to your door, saying "Use our service, or else!"

See updated post.

I vote no action.

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Clock expired, so closing.

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