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Ok, per mod decision, the purpose of this thread is to scrutinize and clean up pages about web sites. Other Sites, especially, has become a catch-all for "my favorite web site that I feel like pimping."




THE FOUR NOBLE TRUTHS:

  • A Web Site Is Not A Work For Troping Purposes: A website can contain tropable content, but the site itself does not automatically have a place with us simply by existing.
  • A Web Site That Is Not Tropable Can Sometimes Be Repurposed: It may have a place as a Useful Notes page, or serve as an index if it hosts a lot of works that we do trope.
  • User Antics Are Not Tropable: Trolls, mod decisions, forum drama. Such are Troper Tales and sources of spiritual decay. They must be purged, even from acceptable pages.
  • User Created Content Is Potentially Tropable: But most of it has its own categories already, such as Game Mod, Fan Fiction, or Journal Roleplay.

Put pages you believe should be completely cut in the crowner at the bottom. If you believe a page can be saved or migrated, make a post with details. Other Sites contains the primary targets right now, but any page about a web site should be scrutinized

edited 25th Sep '14 4:44:44 AM by DracMonster

DustSnitch Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#76: Sep 24th 2016 at 8:37:18 PM

Feminist Frequency directly deals with tropes, so it more than qualifies. Time Cube, even it definitely needs cleaning up, is plenty trope-able.

The vloggers are a little less so. Sargon's page looks fine, but Thunderf00t's is almost all Audience Reactions.

nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#77: Sep 24th 2016 at 9:23:42 PM

I sort of feel like the Tumblr page should be turned into an index of works hosted on Tumblr, as some certainly exist. Though I'm not sure how many have pages here.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#78: Sep 25th 2016 at 2:13:17 AM

The first few pages on Google brings up Total Drama Tumblr, Tumblr Rumblr, Tumblr Rumblr 2, The Oceans Of Tumblr, Altador Cup Tumblr Edition and Tumblr Company, and that is the first four pages.

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Xtifr World's Toughest Milkman Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#79: Sep 25th 2016 at 3:50:39 PM

As I said earlier, there's quite a few webcomics hosted on Tumblr.

I second the idea of turning into a index. But such an index should probably be in the Creator/ namespace, like other publishers.

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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
No, the other one.
#80: Sep 25th 2016 at 4:02:34 PM

Yeah, troping Tumblr as a work is different from troping works hosted on Tumblr. Seems like good index fuel.

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Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
How sweet it is
#81: Sep 29th 2016 at 9:15:30 AM

Calling Six Billion Secrets.

Also, I'm down with making Tumblr into an index for works hosted on the site. [tup]

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DustSnitch Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#82: Sep 29th 2016 at 1:55:08 PM

That sounds like how YouTube is handled, which is a decent standard for these pages.[tup]

Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
How sweet it is
#83: Oct 8th 2016 at 5:53:23 PM

Calling Time Cube.

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crazyrabbits Crazyrabbits from Mississauga, ON, Canada Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#84: Oct 9th 2016 at 5:44:53 AM

I'm all for cutting both Feminist Frequency and Sargon. They're both drama magnets that do nothing for us as a site.

Also, if I could, I'd chainsaw half the Youtube page down. I originally expanded that into the format you see now, but I hate the way it's been handled and the page looks unwieldy and disorganized.

edited 9th Oct '16 5:45:43 AM by crazyrabbits

Spinosegnosaurus77 Mweheheh from Ontario, Canada Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: All I Want for Christmas is a Girlfriend
desdendelle (Avatar by Coffee) from Land of Milk and Honey (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: Writing a love letter
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#86: Oct 12th 2016 at 1:36:23 PM

You could definitely axe half the examples for "troping the userbase". And anyway it's not a work of media, is it now?

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Theatre_Maven_3695 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#87: Oct 12th 2016 at 6:58:53 PM

"Half the examples"? There's only 6 of them. That would reduce it to little more than a stub anyway. [tup]

AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
No, the other one.
#88: Oct 12th 2016 at 8:48:08 PM

I don't think TPB contains anything tropable. It's a file sharing site, not a work in itself. While it does host a lot of works, they're not a cohesive collection, and the site isn't a creator of them.

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crazyrabbits Crazyrabbits from Mississauga, ON, Canada Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Crazyrabbits
#89: Oct 13th 2016 at 6:30:09 AM

Duck is right. Most of the relevant examples for the site could be ported over to TPBAFK, which is an actual film that documents the history and circumstances behind the site, as well as focuses the subject matter on the owners.

edited 13th Oct '16 6:31:39 AM by crazyrabbits

Theatre_Maven_3695 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#90: Oct 13th 2016 at 8:58:49 AM

They'd almost have to be in order to keep that page around. It only has two examples as of now; isn't three the minimum number of examples a page can have (barring a sectionectomy, of course)?

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#91: Oct 18th 2016 at 10:50:49 AM

Do social media websites like Facebook, Twitter, and Tumblr need a page?

I'm gonna miss the Fur Affinity page... sad

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TropesForever from TropesForever Since: Sep, 2016 Relationship Status: I love you for psychological reasons
#92: Oct 25th 2016 at 5:50:39 PM

What about StarDestroyer.net? There are examples of troping the userbase.

Theatre_Maven_3695 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#93: Oct 26th 2016 at 7:51:58 AM

Just because there are userbase examples doesn't mean the page needs to be nuked right away. Always try to clean it up first.

desdendelle (Avatar by Coffee) from Land of Milk and Honey (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: Writing a love letter
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#94: Oct 26th 2016 at 9:58:52 AM

I axed some examples (and Zero Context Examples). I might have missed some, though.

edited 26th Oct '16 9:59:06 AM by desdendelle

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MissMokushiroku Ace Gamer from Atlanta, Georgia, USA Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#95: Oct 27th 2016 at 8:24:14 PM

I don't see the point of having VisuNavi here.

Spinosegnosaurus77 Mweheheh from Ontario, Canada Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: All I Want for Christmas is a Girlfriend
Theatre_Maven_3695 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#97: Nov 12th 2016 at 2:11:53 PM

Know your enemy? Anyway, we can always lock it if it turns into a flame war.

chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#98: Nov 12th 2016 at 8:41:00 PM

[up][up] I remember bringing that page up a couple of years ago. From what I remembered, it wasn't cut because we didn't want to look like the site couldn't take any criticism. That decision was made before this thread was made, so take it as you will.

I'd argue the page still contains drama importation and isn't that noteworthy in the grand scheme of things.

edited 12th Nov '16 8:54:48 PM by chasemaddigan

AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
No, the other one.
#99: Nov 12th 2016 at 9:36:37 PM

Doesn't contain tropable work.

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Nithael Since: Jan, 2001
#100: Nov 13th 2016 at 2:06:23 AM

[up][up]I remember that discussion. At the time, I argued that the page should not be treated any different than others regardless of its content, and since we had no problems keeping lots of other pages about websites/blogs/vlogs/facebook pages that had nothing to do with fiction then FNTVT should stay too.

Since then, we've gotten rid of many of these pages, so I see no reason to keep it any longer. Cut for not containing a work or discussing a work.


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