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Rethkir A Trusted Friend in Science and Ponies from the gap between dimensions Since: Mar, 2013
#1: Jun 21st 2014 at 12:54:53 PM

I was shocked when I read Daenerys Targaryen is only 13 in the books, considering that she looks like an adult in series/Game Of Thrones. So I looked for artwork that portrays her as young, like in the books. This is the best I could find. Book vs show Otherwise, many other characters like the Stark children were aged up in the series.

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#2: Jun 23rd 2014 at 10:00:47 AM

[up] That's a pretty good comparison to me.

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#3: Jun 23rd 2014 at 10:14:26 AM

I don't see a significant difference.

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#4: Jun 23rd 2014 at 6:05:47 PM

I dunno, Daenerys is definitely an example but Emilia Clarke has a very youthful look around her. A better example from Game of Thrones would be eleven-year-old Missandei (1 2) whose actress in the show is Ms. Fanservice.

There isn't much official art of her from the books, though.

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Tuomas Since: Mar, 2010
#6: Jun 26th 2014 at 4:38:40 AM

[up] Yeah, in that photo the actress looks like she could be 13 too.

Tuomas Since: Mar, 2010
#7: Jun 26th 2014 at 4:51:42 AM

How about this image pair?

Elinor Dashwood from Sense and Sensibility (aged 19, according to the book) in the Marvel comic book version (she's on the left):

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Elinor Dashwood in the film version, played by 36-year old Emma Thompson:

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edited 26th Jun '14 4:53:37 AM by Tuomas

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#8: Jun 26th 2014 at 6:28:53 AM

I find that the drawing style works against it, since she could be any age within a rather large span, but it might sort of work. Is there an image of her next to someone 30-40 years old for better comparison?

edited 26th Jun '14 6:29:50 AM by AnotherDuck

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Tuomas Since: Mar, 2010
#9: Jun 26th 2014 at 6:47:56 AM

Hmm, I can't find any image from the comic where her young age would be apparent from the visuals alone.

How about an image of Irene Richard playing Elinor in the 1981 BBC adaptation of Sense and Sensibility:

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I can't find info on Richard's birth date on the internet, but she definitely looks younger than Thompson in that pic.

edited 26th Jun '14 6:48:16 AM by Tuomas

Tuomas Since: Mar, 2010
#10: Jun 26th 2014 at 6:49:36 AM

Here's another pic from the 1981 series where she looks even younger, though the image quality isn't the best possible:

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#11: Jun 26th 2014 at 9:16:00 AM

Or maybe we can do something like the Self-Fanservice pic showing the original vs. adaptation ages, to reduce the dissonance between different "art styles" that makes the intended ages of the character look unclear.

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#12: Jun 26th 2014 at 9:54:50 AM

Are there any good artworks of Claudia from Interview with the Vampire at her canon age to compare with Kirsten Dunst's portrayal in the movie?

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#13: Jun 26th 2014 at 11:37:18 AM

I think maybe an excerpt from the book (as a clipping of the actual scanned page) on top of a screen cap from the TV adaptation would be alright. It would be more than JAFAAC if the fact the excerpt from the book was visually represented in that way, I think. I believe it would be fairly humorous.

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#15: Jun 26th 2014 at 4:59:25 PM

Is that really an example?

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#16: Jun 26th 2014 at 11:26:16 PM

Based on the plot summary it isn't, since it's not directly based on the Conan Doyle stories, rather than an Elseworld type of story where Holmes and Watson solve crimes as youngsters.

edited 26th Jun '14 11:26:29 PM by Tuomas

peasant Since: Mar, 2011
#17: Jun 27th 2014 at 12:29:35 AM

While it's not based on any of Arthur Conan Doyle's works specifically, it's still based specifically on the characters of his creation - namely, that it's about Sherlock Holmes and Watson. Sure, it's a "what if" Holmes and Watson were school kids, but it's nonetheless still is about - and meant to be - Holmes and Watson themselves. As opposed to thinly veiled Expies or Captain Ersatzes.

In essence, it's the same as how Ultimate Marvel and the Marvel Cinematic Universe versions of Nick Fury are Race Lifted versions of Nick Fury.

edited 27th Jun '14 12:32:10 AM by peasant

Tuomas Since: Mar, 2010
#18: Jun 27th 2014 at 2:16:11 AM

But Young Sherlock Holmes specifically shows Holmes solving crimes in his youthful days. It doesn't claim the Conan Doyle written adventures happened to him at a younger age than in the books and short stories. So it's not Age Lift. Age Lift is when you take an established story and change the ages of the characters within that story, it's not when you tell other stories about the characters that took place when they were younger/older. If the latter was Age Lift too, you would have to count in things like Young Indiana Jones, and any other stories that focus on the younger or older days of established characters.

And comparison between Race Lift and Age Lift isn't valid, because the two aren't comparable. People don't generally change their race all of a sudden, but most people have things happening to them in their youth, middle age and old age.

edited 27th Jun '14 2:16:58 AM by Tuomas

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#19: Jun 27th 2014 at 3:46:10 AM

I might be wrong but I recall having the impression that the Holmes and Watson in the movie only solved the mystery together as children but not as adults.

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#20: Jun 27th 2014 at 7:32:16 AM

Age Lift is where the age doesn't really matter, or is a minor detail to the story so it can just be glossed over. If a story is specifically about him being young, it's not really glossing it over as much as deliberately focusing on it and making a big deal about it.

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#22: Jul 25th 2014 at 7:11:43 AM

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