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spacemarine50 Since: Mar, 2012
#1: Sep 25th 2013 at 3:26:16 PM

After stumbling onto this, I think this is the same as Every Car Is a Pinto, despite what the description says about that. They both are cars that explode way easier than real life. The description also isn't that cleat, so I'm not fully sure on what Molotov Truck means. I propose either:

edited 25th Sep '13 3:26:27 PM by spacemarine50

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#2: Sep 25th 2013 at 3:48:46 PM

Molotov Truck is a weaponized version of Every Car Is a Pinto - it's about using a burning/exploding vehicle as a weapon or means of destroying a barricade or obstacle.

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#3: Sep 25th 2013 at 4:00:02 PM

Every Car Is a Pinto is about cars blowing up much more easily thanthey should. The Molotov thing is deliberate, as well as not necessarily unrealistic.

edited 29th Sep '13 4:05:47 AM by SeptimusHeap

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AmyGdala Since: Oct, 2012
#4: Sep 25th 2013 at 4:47:39 PM

Yeah, they seem like different things to me too. Though they could both do with better names. Molotov Truck isn't specifically about trucks, and "truck" doesn't sound enough like "cocktail" to make for a witty name. And you can't understand Every Car Is a Pinto unless you know the real-life reference - more than half of the current description currently explains the reference, which is not an example of the trope.

edited 25th Sep '13 4:47:58 PM by AmyGdala

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#5: Sep 25th 2013 at 10:46:45 PM

Every Car Is a Pinto has 2800+ inbounds. I do not think that there is a strong argument for renaming Molotov Truck either.

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spacemarine50 Since: Mar, 2012
#6: Sep 26th 2013 at 1:56:16 AM

Still can edit Molotov Truck and redefine it to be more clear and distinct from Everycar Is A Pinto.

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#7: Sep 26th 2013 at 6:30:08 PM

The name is fine (not great, but fine), the description is perfectly fine. The only thing I would do is change the section that mentions Every Car Is a Pinto to say what exactly that trope is to directly contrast them.

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#8: Sep 26th 2013 at 7:29:37 PM

[up] That sounds like a good move.

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#9: Sep 26th 2013 at 8:47:56 PM

Also I suggest taking down ideas for redirect names for Molotov Truck.

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spacemarine50 Since: Mar, 2012
#10: Sep 27th 2013 at 1:30:21 AM

[up][up] If that, modify Every Car Is a Pinto accordingly. Also Molotov Truck has Example as a Thesis. Should that be removed?

edited 27th Sep '13 1:31:38 AM by spacemarine50

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#11: Sep 29th 2013 at 4:08:06 AM

I added a line about this to Every Car Is a Pinto. I have no problem at all with the description of Molotov Truck, except for the capitalization - will go and fix that.

edited 29th Sep '13 4:08:20 AM by SeptimusHeap

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troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#12: Oct 14th 2013 at 5:31:43 PM

[up][up] Example as a Thesis should pretty much always be removed when it can.

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MonaNaito Since: Jun, 2011
#13: Oct 28th 2013 at 9:37:02 AM

... The Molotov Truck page description now includes the phrase "NOT Every Car Is a Pinto!", which isn't a great way of explaining the difference between two tropes. I'm going to go ahead and change it to "Contrast Every Car Is a Pinto, in which...etc."

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#14: Oct 28th 2013 at 9:38:30 AM

I would use "Compare", by the way.

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MonaNaito Since: Jun, 2011
#15: Oct 28th 2013 at 9:42:26 AM

I wound up writing "For cars that are not intentionally weaponized but just happen to blow up upon receiving significant damage, see Every Car Is a Pinto." Does that work?

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#16: Oct 28th 2013 at 9:44:56 AM

Can't see any problem with that.

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#18: Oct 31st 2013 at 6:28:07 AM

How does this sound as a rewrite of the description for Molotov Truck, to do away with the Example as a Thesis:

One crude but effective way of attacking your enemy is to load up a vehicle with flammables, explosives, or anything else that would make a nice big boom, and send it on a collision course toward a target. Any vehicle will do, but large trucks, planes, and even boats are commonly used due to both their size and the speeds they can get up to. The attack combines the force of the vehicle's impact, the possible detonation and/or cook-off of its fuel, and the added punch from its cargo into a massive strike. Various options justify the Molotov Truck: you might be low on ammo, your weapons can't make a major dent in what you want to target, you want to shock and awe the enemy, or just for the cool factor.

For cars that are not intentionally weaponized but just happen to blow up upon receiving significant damage, see Every Car Is a Pinto.

Related: Car Fu, External Combustion (kind of an X Meets Y of the two), Action Bomb, and Molotov Cocktail.

(Note: The video game MotorStorm has a vehicle manufacturer called Molotov and they make trucks. It's possible for them to catch fire sometimes, but that's as far as the trope applies.)

edited 31st Oct '13 6:29:39 AM by Willbyr

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#19: Oct 31st 2013 at 7:57:36 AM

[tup]

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#21: Oct 31st 2013 at 9:26:57 AM

Echo.

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Troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#23: Nov 1st 2013 at 11:56:08 AM

Seems fine. The parenthetical note at the end is a little awkward, but that's not important.

Rhymes with "Protracted."
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