First Installment and Franchise separation

Found another one to separate: VideoGame.Chaos Rings and Franchise.Chaos Rings. Should I move to VideoGame.Chaos Rings I (its sequel is at VideoGame.Chaos Rings II)?

Never heard o' that game, but sure.

Two things:

• VideoGame.Donkey Kong and Franchise.Donkey Kong need separation. Where should we put VideoGame.Donkey Kong?
• On the Wiki Talk thread I made before this one, I suggested moving VideoGame.Mega Man to VideoGame.Mega Man Classic in order to have full separation. Should I do this?

For Video Game Donkey Kong, we could add a 1 to it.

Agreed with the Mega Man split as well.

For Chaos Rings, move the first game as suggested.

Change VideoGame.Donkey Kong to VideoGame.Donkey Kong 1981.

and I'm kinda torn between Donkey Kong 1981 and Donkey Kong 1, since the GB Donkey Kong is nicknamed Donkey Kong '94, but the original had a sequel officially called Donkey Kong 3.

I'd keep Donkey Kong 94 for the Gameboy version. And Donkey Kong 1 for the original version.

Very few times have we used the years for a name of the product. Sonic 2006 and Donkey Kong 94 are pretty well known as names, making them more usable than just constantly using years.

Come to think of it, I would like to prioritize official title over Fan Nickname. Original Donkey Kong is a strange case because only its second sequel was named Donkey Kong 3. Its first sequel was Donkey Kong Jr.

That's true.

Well, my thought is that Franchise Donkey Kong would be separate from Video Game Donkey Kong(this'll be the first game). Video Game Donkey Kong Gameboy for the other one. And using the regular Jr. and 3 titles respectively.

But Jr. and 3 don't even have their own pages yet.

Well, when they do, of course. If they do.

All the more reason for the Video Game Donkey Kong to cover all 3 and to use that exact namespace. Since they fit there best.

But VideoGame.Donkey Kong doesn't even talk about Jr. and 3.

...It does in the examples.

Should we split them and give the other two pages?

Yes, yes, yes.

Actually, let's put Donkey Kong aside for the time being.

How about Film.Superman and Franchise.Superman? I suggest moving to Film.Superman The Movie.

edited 25th Apr '13 6:15:57 PM by WaxingName

That works.

Is there more than one movie simply named Superman?

No, I'm just trying to make full separation.

Ah. Yeah, go for it.

Guys, we probably only need to do the disambiguation type things if there's a significant chance of confusion. Remember, adding stuff that's not actually in the name makes it harder to find and to link to, so we only want to do it when it's really necessary.

I'm just doing this for the sake of consistency. I feel it would be easiest to link to stuff when everything is consistently separated.

It is separated—that's what namespaces are for.

And then there was that whole deal where VideoGame.Final Fantasy redirected to Franchise.Final Fantasy, and VideoGame.Final Fantasy I was custom titled as "Final Fantasy" (no "I").

It was the whole reason I started that previous Wiki Talk thread, and this thread is where the discussions came to.

I just found it strange that some first installments were namespaced and others had different names. This is an effort to make it all have different names.

edited 26th Apr '13 10:38:49 AM by WaxingName

Film.Superman is hardly a first installment. It's a subsidiary medium of what started as a comics character.

It is the first installment of a film series.

Well, enough bickering. Can I go ahead with renaming Film.Superman?