Should we shorten the description while we're at it? Too many paragraphs as it is. Plus it calls the trope a death trope when it isn't.
edited 20th Feb '13 8:31:10 AM by Arha
Puʻu ʻŌʻōDid the page move. Any description changing will need work from someone better than me. Tagging now.
Sandbox. I cleaned up the rather confused description, especially the part in the related links where someone decided the trope name was literal. Done with the redirects. I suggest we cut them all. They confuse people into thinking the trope is literal. Edit: This is a subtrope of Freudian Excuse isn't it?
edited 20th Feb '13 9:55:26 AM by Arha
the it-thingy...I don't think so, but it has some similarities. It definitely goes on the Backstory Index and This Index Has Had a Hard Life.
Puʻu ʻŌʻōAx the redirects. Utterly misleading. Freudian Excuse - no. That's an excuse for villainy, not cynicism.
Okay, then there's just some overlap. I'll cutlist the redirects now. Cleaned a handful of examples I'm personally familiar with.
A-Am done as well as all the stuff I was familiar with. Cuts for the old redirects were declined.
Puʻu ʻŌʻōDid X-Z. What is the trope for dead siblings causing you to become evil/do something?
For being simply evil it's Freudian Excuse. For changing your behavior, dunno. A finished. I think I'll touch up the sandbox to make it clear that a straight villain is not an example. Well Intentioned Extremists and Anti Villains only. B and C finished. I put in the sandbox and cut the quote.
edited 23rd Feb '13 9:03:39 AM by Arha
D and E finished. I don't know what to do about this and there are a few ghost wicks as well.
the it-thingyBring it up in the Translation forum?
Puʻu ʻŌʻō@61 is correct.
F done, fixed that Italian wick thing.
Puʻu ʻŌʻōFinished T. Now only 713 wicks to go.
Puʻu ʻŌʻōDid P-S, now only 318 wicks to go.
The examples will require a re-write. There are too many mentions of somebody's "literal dead little sister" or his dead little sister substitute. I'd be happy to take care of the examples I am familiar with.
Puʻu ʻŌʻōDid the last 336 or so wicks, except for a few ghost and archive ones. Sometimes, the example fit better under Freudian Excuse, Replacement Goldfish or other tropes, then I switched it out. Now only page example cleanup remains.
edited 5th Mar '13 2:30:46 PM by SeptimusHeap
I started the major clean-up of the page. I went through sections Anime, Comic Books and Animated films. I removed questionable entries, moving them into the discussion for the trope page. Most were Zero Context Examples, or taking the dead little sister literally without mentioning how it influenced the characters, or attempts to be Played With examples of taking the former trope name Dead Little Sister literally. I might continue with the editing tomorrow.
edited 14th Mar '13 5:28:45 PM by XFllo
Puʻu ʻŌʻōDid some further cleaning. Anything missing?
I have some issues with a few Real Life examples. Generally, the examples do not state whether the event made the people more cynical. I still feel the literal interpretation of the original name in them. For instance those two, but there are more examples like that:
edited 16th Mar '13 7:06:45 PM by XFllo
This is confusing. Not to mention if it has several played-with examples, they should be listed separately and explained.
edited 16th Mar '13 7:07:27 PM by XFllo
This one is also taking the former name literally, but the character might have some other traumatic event that made him cynical.
Also, I removed these wicks but I'd like to ask about them.
edited 16th Mar '13 7:10:02 PM by XFllo
Puʻu ʻŌʻōWell, these RL examples about songs would be better off in a Music folder. I would move them to discussion as a song name alone doesn't say "Cynicism" to me. Million Dollar Baby is a bad example.
I think it might be about done.
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