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Prematurely launched pages and pages that weren't fully fleshed out at the point of launching, are a big problem. Since these usually share several problems at once, this thread is aimed at re-running them through the TLP for fixing - the usual fix - or cutting them if they are too bad.

Problems this thread deals with include bad names, not enough/bad examples, unclear description, etc.

For the interested, here's a list of recently created pages. Launches

Note: Please do not request a mod to unlaunch drafts that don't have any issues besides lacking a launch notice/24hr launch notice. While 24hr launch notices are mandatory, there are a few exceptions to the rule. If you see a draft's sponsor launch a TLP without an announcement, it's best to remind them of our TLP Guidelines first. If they continue to repeatedly launch drafts without a launch notice, you can report them on Ask The Tropers or the TLP Community Issues thread.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jun 24th 2023 at 12:24:55 PM

Ominae (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#3551: Aug 29th 2015 at 3:48:31 AM

3 mediums? I only got games and novels. Don't know about putting the short movies.

You want the Hayarigami page (that talks about the franchise) moved?

ChrisX ..... from ..... Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Singularity
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#3552: Aug 29th 2015 at 8:23:56 AM

I'd be fine with some of the SD pages getting removed. Someone has been rather... too create-happy about it, and while I did make some, I had a lingering feeling that maybe this shouldn't be what we're doing. But some needs to stay if it made sense. I'd vote for just Deadpool, really.

edited 29th Aug '15 8:26:26 AM by ChrisX

Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#3553: Aug 29th 2015 at 9:30:52 AM

Additional stubs: Slightly Eccentric, Manga Gaga, Lets Be Friends Again, Webmasters, Pants Seat Carpet Ride, Worse, Very Bad Koalas, Taylors Polynomials, Runnin With A Gun, Striptease, Stencil88, Sketchy, Rhydonand Finnigan, Spikeboy, Out Of Print, OC And Dee, Law Toons, Happyface Comics, Housetrapped, Double Reacharound Red, Funny Internet Comic, Filler House, GCD, and Fajita.

Also came across Strawberry Syrup, which seems to be misplaced; Cirque Du Monde, which looks like an unfinished page with some other issues as well; and City Of The Dead, which has apparently been renamed and moved... somewhere.

edited 29th Aug '15 9:38:36 AM by Morgenthaler

You've got roaming bands of armed, aggressive, tyrannical plumbers coming to your door, saying "Use our service, or else!"
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#3554: Aug 29th 2015 at 9:53:53 AM

I also think the SD pages have gotten a little out of control, and I would be in favor of cutting the vast majority of them. Deadpool's is the only one I would like to stay.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#3555: Aug 29th 2015 at 10:00:40 AM

@Ominae: Until at least three mediums have their own pages, the page should be moved. Unless you can create these three pages in a short time.

@Morgenthaler: Oi. That's a long laundry list. I think other people - not just me - need to cutlist these expired pages.

Re: Self Demo pages: I am going to take this as consensus to remove the ones listed here so far.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
ChrisX ..... from ..... Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Singularity
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#3556: Aug 29th 2015 at 4:11:09 PM

@Septimus: The easier way to say which Self-Demo character pages needs to be removed is, well ALL of them EXCEPT Deadpool.

The harder way: Go make up some standards to make a Self Demonstrating Character Page, then remove those who don't fit.

Whichever you choose.

edited 29th Aug '15 5:03:30 PM by ChrisX

Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
The Unknown
#3557: Aug 29th 2015 at 5:48:35 PM

Brian Blessed is pretty legit.

I don't think a complete purge is in order, but something seriously needs to be done about this.

If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
ChrisX ..... from ..... Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Singularity
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#3558: Aug 29th 2015 at 6:57:16 PM

In that case, I recommend asking some people who tends to create a lot of self demonstrating pages themselves even when it's not proper to come here. Some names that come to mind are matt3291992 or 313 Bluestreak...

And of course, me.

TheUncreative Since: Oct, 2014
#3559: Aug 29th 2015 at 7:02:24 PM

There are several SD pages worth salvaging, such as the Joker's, and others only need to be improved (like Mojo Jojo's and maybe Kamina's).

Only the ones for characters whose manner of speech isn't interesting or distinct enough should be deleted. And having a rule for any future pages would help, such as putting them in a Sandbox or a YKTTW first.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#3560: Aug 30th 2015 at 2:32:01 AM

Today's worklist:

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Rjinswand Since: Apr, 2015
#3561: Aug 30th 2015 at 3:40:26 AM

If we leave SD Deadpool and such, I'd say we still should remove the redirects from non-SD namespaces.

TheOneWhoTropes Dread Sorcerer of Auchtermuchty from Newton-le-willows, quaint town Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Dread Sorcerer of Auchtermuchty
#3562: Aug 30th 2015 at 6:56:12 AM

[up][up]Discworld is a legitimate namespace, according to its Literature.Discworld page. There may be overlaps with other novels, so we put them there. It's come up before, and consensus was to keep the Discworld namespace for now.

edited 30th Aug '15 6:56:47 AM by TheOneWhoTropes

Keeper of The Celestial Flame
lakingsif Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
#3563: Aug 30th 2015 at 8:11:04 AM

cutlist One Last Goodbye because in addition to its problems, it's the same as Pre-Sacrifice Final Goodbye. The name could be kept as a less wordy redirect to that, though.

OH MY GOD; MY PARENTS ARE GARDENIIIIINNNNGGGGG!!!!!
Candi Sorcerer in training from Closer to rimward than hubward Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
Sorcerer in training
#3564: Aug 30th 2015 at 4:54:43 PM

We have Blue-and-Orange Morality. A Sexuality subtrope strikes me as far too fine a split. The Blue and Orange concept is also apparently about ways that don't make sense to us poor humans, but make perfect sense to the sentient beings who follow them. Which means it can't have RL examples, since no sentient aliens are known to exist, most animals wouldn't count, and we currently have no way of knowing if the more intelligent ones qualify.

I say that needs the axe.

edited 30th Aug '15 4:54:59 PM by Candi

Coming back to where you started is not the same as never leaving. -Terry Pratchett
lakingsif Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
#3565: Aug 30th 2015 at 6:00:53 PM

Also voting for Blue And Orange Sexuality to get nuked. Even ignoring that it's almost accepted that many human sexualities aren't simply x or y, it's a prime target for all kinds of misuse and confusion. And probably unnecessary.

edited 30th Aug '15 6:01:28 PM by lakingsif

OH MY GOD; MY PARENTS ARE GARDENIIIIINNNNGGGGG!!!!!
phoenix Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
#3566: Aug 30th 2015 at 6:39:58 PM

Individual Word Struggle is a un-YKTT Wed trope with one example. Literature/Price is an unindexed work stub with no examples. Literature/Afterglow is a work stub with four examples, three of which are ZC Es. The customary P Ms have been sent for all three. I also cutlisted Individual-Word-Struggle.

Edit: And here's another one: FanFic.Spikes Nameless Brother

edited 30th Aug '15 7:22:05 PM by phoenix

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#3567: Aug 31st 2015 at 1:15:39 AM

Today's worklist:

Also, are Freddy Fazbear and Foxy The Pirate Fox by ~batmany worth having?

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
The Unknown
#3568: Aug 31st 2015 at 1:51:51 AM

Neither of the characters have a distinct voice. Cut them.

If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
Exxolon Exxolon from UK Since: Jul, 2010
Exxolon
#3569: Aug 31st 2015 at 6:36:26 AM

I've expanded the Jingles page. If it needs anything more, let me know and I'll see what I can do.

shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#3570: Aug 31st 2015 at 8:12:08 AM

Yep, the Discworld books have their own name space because they were having far too many namespace collisions. Same reason Disney has one.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#3571: Aug 31st 2015 at 10:19:57 AM

While we're on the topic of SD pages... SelfDemonstrating.Mitsuru Kirijo.

This is bad. Really bad. And Persona 3 is one of my favorite games of all time. It makes no attempt at a unique voice for the character, the entries are just "This applies to me."

Some of which are hilariously out of character anyway.

Also, no one else has commented on the various Adventure Time SD pages (Ice King, Princess Bubblegum, Marceline, Simon Petrikov).

edited 31st Aug '15 11:26:49 AM by Larkmarn

Found a Youtube Channel with political stances you want to share? Hop on over to this page and add them.
lakingsif Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
#3572: Aug 31st 2015 at 11:09:19 AM

Maybe there should be a ban on SD character pages for a while, until the ones we have are cleaned up or cut and there's some outline for when they can be made.

OH MY GOD; MY PARENTS ARE GARDENIIIIINNNNGGGGG!!!!!
Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
The Unknown
#3573: Aug 31st 2015 at 5:34:16 PM

Parroting what I said in the SD Characters thread: the Adventure Time SD pages should be cut for lacking a distinct voice.

If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
Candi Sorcerer in training from Closer to rimward than hubward Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
Sorcerer in training
#3574: Aug 31st 2015 at 5:48:12 PM

At this rate, it might becomes necessary to have a SD review thread like there is for Five-Man Band and Complete Monster. (/half-serious, half-morbid humor)

Coming back to where you started is not the same as never leaving. -Terry Pratchett
ChrisX ..... from ..... Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Singularity
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#3575: Aug 31st 2015 at 7:21:40 PM

[up]Actually, I think that would've been a decent idea, rather than having people spam them with low quality. In fact, I am prepared to have SD pages created by me be reviewed.


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