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Thainen Since: Jan, 2001
#1: May 4th 2012 at 10:33:22 AM

This trope seems quite abused. The trope page clearly says: "To qualify for this trope, a terrible situation must have some final perfect push over the edge". However, it is widely used whenever anything, well, gets worse. It also seems to become a Pothole Magnet for whenever anything bad happens or something seems worse than something else, making it an annoying Verbal Tic. Just a few examples.

And so on, and so forth. I suggest changing the trope name to something more descriptive and less tempting, like "Bad to Worse".

edited 4th May '12 10:35:25 AM by Thainen

animeg3282 Since: Jan, 2001
#2: May 4th 2012 at 10:41:10 AM

I agree, although the wicks will be a huge task.

peccantis Since: Oct, 2010
#3: May 4th 2012 at 3:47:05 PM

Yes, rename needed due to egregious misuse as Stock Phrase and for Sink Holes.

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#4: May 4th 2012 at 4:13:17 PM

I can take care of some of the wicks for correct usage, but there's going to be probably over half if not more than that as misuse in the wicks. Most of the usage on the wiki is as a Troper Tic.

[down]The latter would make for a good short-term transitional solution while whatever unlucky saps (possibly including myself) get stuck sifting those 6537 (incl. redirects) wicks fix it.

edited 4th May '12 5:13:15 PM by tdgoodrich1

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#5: May 4th 2012 at 5:08:06 PM

Obvious redlinking is obvious, whether it's a cut or a This Troper-style redlinking.

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Feather7603 Devil's Advocate from Yggdrasil Since: Dec, 2011
#6: May 5th 2012 at 10:05:57 AM

I think this is the reverse, and exactly the same problem, as I Got Better. That got renamed to Unexplained Recovery and handled in Special Efforts. I'd suggest doing the same with this.

Edit: Personally I don't need a wick check on this, but I'm rather certain I've seen a lot of useless potholes.

edited 5th May '12 10:11:47 AM by Feather7603

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#7: May 5th 2012 at 10:16:19 AM

Doesn't help that the trope that sounds like it should be the inverse, It Gets Better, is actually more about a show getting better than the situation contained therein.

Not the reason it's in here, of course, but I wanted to mention that while we were on the subject.

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Feather7603 Devil's Advocate from Yggdrasil Since: Dec, 2011
#8: May 5th 2012 at 10:22:18 AM

[up]That's another one I've seen lots of potholes to. However, I think they're more often actually correct. There's still probably a fair amount of misuse there too, though.

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SS13 Since: Jun, 2010
#9: May 5th 2012 at 5:17:45 PM

Hmm, how about renaming the trope to something like "From Bad To Worse" (so the examples added will be more to the point) , but leaving It Gets Worse and It Got Worse alive as redirects? This saves any wick and pothole work, while decreasing unfitting examples...

edited 5th May '12 5:19:24 PM by SS13

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#10: May 5th 2012 at 5:43:29 PM

[up]Of concern is its use as a Pothole Magnet/Troper Tic.

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Feather7603 Devil's Advocate from Yggdrasil Since: Dec, 2011
#11: May 5th 2012 at 6:24:44 PM

I did a quick random check (too lazy to type it up, and by the way, is there an easy way to do that without too much list-editing?), and most (70%?) potholes are when the situation seems good but gets worse. Leaving it as a redirect will not solve that problem, as the phrase indicates that that's okay use. We don't want that.

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#12: May 7th 2012 at 9:11:47 PM

So the definition is basically a Calamity Coup De Grace? Yeah, big surprise that it gets misused for any time stuff starts going (more) downhill.

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#13: May 8th 2012 at 7:38:12 AM

I was always thinking that this was something problematic - looks like full Stock Phrase suckitude.

Are we good for a rename and-then-redlink crowner?

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#14: May 8th 2012 at 2:53:03 PM

Crowner stitched to thread.

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troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#15: May 8th 2012 at 7:15:08 PM

I believe the pre-existing term is From Bad to Worse.

Rhymes with "Protracted."
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#16: May 12th 2012 at 11:41:50 PM

I was wondering why this wasn't in TRS after seeing it potholed all over the place.

ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#17: May 14th 2012 at 10:33:37 AM

Calling crowner in favor of renaming and faux redlinking It Got Worse.

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#18: May 14th 2012 at 10:51:19 AM

Old crowner out, new crowner in.

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#19: May 17th 2012 at 2:47:00 AM

Calling crowner.

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#20: May 17th 2012 at 3:45:33 AM

[up]Did the page, subpages and indexes, as well as the notes on Renamed Tropes and the FAQ thread.

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#21: Jun 20th 2012 at 6:05:45 AM

Bumping for votes.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#22: Jun 20th 2012 at 6:15:31 AM

[up]Ahem...crowner's already called. It just needs to be done (with the wicks)

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lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#23: Jun 20th 2012 at 9:32:53 AM

There is now a Special Efforts thread to remove the sinkholes. All help is welcome.

Locking.

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