General Page Quote Discussion:

Where's that quote from?

The intro to the Disney version if Bueaty and the Beast.

Yes, I like that a lot better.

Yeah, let's go with that one. I was thinking it myself just before it was posted.

Ray Gun now has a picture from Star Trek, and the quote fits Disintegrating laser more than the general trope. How about Han Solo's line "Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid."?

EDIT: Wait. I think it fits Weapon Of Choice better, since it's Han explaining why he uses a blaster over other weapons. The current quote just recites the trope name a couple times.

edited 10th Apr '15 12:07:09 PM by DragonQuestZ

I've removed the page quote from Society Marches On. Sorry, didn't know it should've been first discussed here. Anyway, I posted the quote and my reasoning on the trope's Discussion page.

It needs a new page quote now.

It was:

->"If you're so adored
Where's your Academy Award?
I'm the smart female heroine
That can't be ignored
The moral of the quarrel
And why I've got you beat:
It's what's inside that matters
Not the size of yo' feet"
—>—Belle to Cinderella, "Princess Rap Battle"

...with the removal edit reason, "Removed the following page quote, since it has nothing to do with this trope."

It's not that great a page quote, but it does have something to do with the trope: Belle is a more recent Disney princess than Cinderella, and there are more contemporary features of her personality, like being smart, whereas Cinderella is extremely old-fashioned including being not much besides pretty, having her highest aspiration to be "rescued" by a man, and lines like "leave the sewing to the women". I think it was okay, better than nothing.

edit: also the page quote used to be...

->"Come mothers and fathers, throughout the land,
And don't criticize what you can't understand,
Your sons and your daughters are beyond your command,
Your old road is rapidly agin',
Please get out of the new one, if you can't lend your hand,
For the times they are a-changin'."
—>— Bob Dylan, "The Times They Are A-Changin'"

edited 11th Apr '15 3:10:12 PM by rodneyAnonymous

I elaborated on my reasons on the trope's Discussion page:

Basically, the trope is about works depicting The Future featuring social standards that became outdated even before that "future" would come. Disney's Cinderella, while definitely "old-fashioned" in certain ways, has nothing to do with flawed depictions of future societies. Dylan's song was better as a quote, since it talks about how the passage of time changes society in general.

edited 11th Apr '15 3:34:42 PM by Rjinswand

I agree with Rjinswand. The trope is

Neither BatB or Cinderella were set in the future; the fact that the social expectations changed between the times they were made is not this trope. The Dylan one is a bit better, but only a bit: it's still more about the fact that social expectations have changed between the past and now, not that the future is going to be little different than the present.

edited 11th Apr '15 4:57:42 PM by Madrugada

Not a very indicative trope name though.

Can't think of quote suggestions at the moment.

The quote in Stern Teacher doesn't seem to say anything about teachers at all...

Copied that to the Quotes page, and pasted one from there.

Much better.

Any thoughts on this post?

Han solo's quote would be a good replacement.

It's All Junk has two quotes,the first one from the bible works well,the second one can go.

edited 13th Apr '15 5:37:07 PM by Ultimatum

The "second" quote seems to be intended to continue off the first one, and is not only unrelated to the trope, it seems to to try to subvert the previous line. Deleted.

Umbrella Drink Looks like it's going to get a new page image. It could use a better quote, as well. The current ("Hey, cabana boy! My drink needs more umbrellas! What kind of deserted island is this, anyway?", from "Strong Bad Email #148" )is okay, but doesn't really say much about the trope.

I'd like to suggest this, from Tim Mc Graw's song "It felt good on my lips"

She ordered us a drink, it was a purple kind of pink; she said it’s got a shot of a little bit of everything
Mellow yellow umbrella for a fella like me, it was just a bit mellow for me to be seen with
But I took a sip; yeah it felt good on my lips.

edited 13th Apr '15 11:29:38 PM by Madrugada

Anyone else think the quote on Chronic Backstabbing Disorder isn't terribly indicative of the trope? Certainly not on the chronic part, at least...

There's one I think would fit better, from the series Kaamelott (translated from French, but I tried to keep it as close as possible):

"I have just one question: When are we betraying?"
(beat)
"Wait... do you mean, we're not planning any betrayal? Uh... that's new! I've never tried this before..."
— King Loth, Kaamelott

edited 16th Apr '15 2:43:15 PM by StFan

I like that one.

Anyone else like Han's quote for Weapon Of Choice?

The existing quote isn't terrible (one could expect a character who really, honestly "doesn't give a damn about anybody but himself" to chronically backstab others), but I do think your proposed one is better.

I'm not wild about it for WOC. It's not bad, but explaining why it's his weapon of choice doesn't really explain what a weapon of choice is.

On the other hand, the current WOC quote is absolute shit, so almost anything would be better.

edited 16th Apr '15 3:06:49 PM by SolipSchism

Well do you think Han's quote would work better on Magic Versus Science? It's certainly pithier than the current one.

Yeah, I'd say it would work pretty good on that page.

The quote on Alas, Poor Scrappy really doesn't make any sense to me. Like, who's The Scrappy? The speaker? The speaker's father? Anyway, the quotes page has some really good ones, like The Gokudo one or the first Persona4 one.

edited 16th Apr '15 4:08:29 PM by NervousShark

Aye. Bad quote. Very bad quote. I'll take a look through the quotes tab.

EDIT: I agree with you. I'm thinking the "Male Student" quote from Persona4, or the Gokudo quote. On balance, I think I like the Persona4 quote. It's slightly less indicative (but still really indicative), but I think it's wittier.

edited 16th Apr '15 4:11:45 PM by SolipSchism

@3344: I agree that the Han solo quote in 3329 is much better than the current quote in Magic Versus Science, which is way too long for my liking.

Speaking of Star Wars, we've got disagreement on the quote for the page.

->"There has been an awakening. Have you felt it? The Dark Side... and the Light." vs.: —> The Force is strong in my family. My father has it, I have it, my sister has it. You have that power too.

The arguments for the first are generally "It directly ties into the title of the movie, it's from the original trailer, and the second quote is actually a line from ROTJ that was used in the second trailer."

The arguments for the second are "The first is pure Vagueness Is Coming, and even if it's from ROTJ, the fact they chose to use it shows it presumably ties into the movie."

Personally, I lean towards the first. It does somewhat bother me that to have the quote for the page be originally from another work when it's not directly referencing it.

I do too. It's too bad it's totally Vagueness Is Coming, but that's a work page, and that's from the work, not a different one. Regardless of how appropriate the ROTJ quote is, it's from a different work. That's a big deal, I think.

Also it "fits" the name better.