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This thread is for general discussion of page quotes, whether to change, move or remove them.

Unused quotes should be put on a Quotes Wiki page (just replace the namespace in the URL of the wiki page you are making a quotes page for with Quotes/) or, if they don't have an article, on Quotes Looking for an Article.

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Edited by Tabs on Jul 15th 2023 at 2:40:54 AM

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#2701: Jul 17th 2014 at 11:35:46 AM

Does anyone have any suggestions for Race Lift? The current quote isn't terrible, but I think it paints the trope in an inherently negative light and acts as though it's Political Correctness Gone Mad. Is there perhaps a more objective one that sums up the situation?

edited 17th Jul '14 11:36:06 AM by comicwriter

Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#2702: Jul 17th 2014 at 12:38:39 PM

I think this was the quote a while ago. Either way, it's good.

  • Frozone: Wait a second, what's this? Is that me?... I'm white! They made me a white guy?
  • Mr. Incredible: You're... You're... Black...ish...
  • Frozone: They made me a white guy!
  • Mr. Incredible: Well... Maybe the print's faded. You're tan. ...-ish?
  • Frozone: Wait, wait, wait. Is that supposed to be me? I sound like a, a... A what? A beatnik! Yeah, that's it, I sound like a beatnik!

johnnye Since: Jan, 2001
Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#2704: Jul 17th 2014 at 2:18:54 PM

It is good. It could do without Frozone's last line; end it at "..tan-ish?".

edited 17th Jul '14 2:19:24 PM by Madrugada

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#2705: Jul 17th 2014 at 2:40:32 PM

Yeah I think it's much better.

lexicon Since: May, 2012
#2706: Jul 17th 2014 at 8:30:16 PM

Sounds like a good quote.

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#2707: Jul 24th 2014 at 5:47:51 AM

Alas, Poor Yorick has a lengthy quote,it can be shortened to ->"Alas, poor Yorick! I knew him, Horatio: a fellow of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy: he hath borne me on his back a thousand times; and now, how abhorred in my imagination it is! ."

Edit Level Ate has two quotes,I would go with the top one

edited 26th Jul '14 2:53:32 PM by Ultimatum

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theAdeptRogue iRidescence Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#2708: Jul 24th 2014 at 7:06:43 AM

[up]Actually, I'm not even sure we should use that quote. It doesn't really tell us what this trope is about (beyond the fact that the Trope Namer is Hamlet).

johnnye Since: Jan, 2001
#2709: Jul 24th 2014 at 3:21:38 PM

I think if we cut it off after "Here hung those lips that I have kissed I know not how oft. Where are your gibes now?" it's got a decent compromise between length and illustration of the trope.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#2711: Jul 26th 2014 at 2:14:29 AM

Promotion to Parent: Keep the second - it's a bit shorter.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
lexicon Since: May, 2012
#2712: Jul 26th 2014 at 1:20:46 PM

Should the other one go on a quotes tab? I don't know how to start one of those.

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LordGro from Germany Since: May, 2010
#2714: Jul 28th 2014 at 11:52:24 AM

Our Dragons Are Different has an unsourced quote:

"Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup."

Probably something a troper made up (it's a modification of "Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards, for they are subtle and quick to anger." from The Lord of the Rings). There's also a stinger referencing the quote.

The problem with both the quote and the stinger is that they are neither a) illustrating the trope and b) funny. The Quotes page offers no good alternative, but I would prefer the page to have no quote at all than an unfunny and meaningless one. Is it okay if I take it off?

edited 28th Jul '14 11:53:01 AM by LordGro

Let's just say and leave it at that.
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#2715: Jul 28th 2014 at 11:53:34 AM

Count my response in the discussion tab as well, please.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Candi Sorcerer in training from Closer to rimward than hubward Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
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#2716: Jul 28th 2014 at 11:58:48 AM

The 'crunchy' quote is a bit of a net meme. I've seen it on four different pics shared on my newsfeed in the past three months alone, and seen it elsewhere as well. It may not have a known author, but it doesn't seem to have been made up by a troper, either.

Coming back to where you started is not the same as never leaving. -Terry Pratchett
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#2717: Jul 28th 2014 at 12:22:21 PM

"Crunchy and good with Ketchup" has been around since before the net. I want to say, it started up about the time Bored of the Rings came out, in 1969.

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
LordGro from Germany Since: May, 2010
#2718: Jul 28th 2014 at 12:29:45 PM

Did some googling. It's one of those things popularized by "funny" bumper stickers and t-shirts. People have been wondering where it is from already in 2003.

To speak the truth, the quote being a meme is an argument for deletion in my book. A quote for Our Dragons Are Different should express how there are many different ideas of how dragons look, behave, are etc. This quote is just a Non Sequitur.

Edit: Madrugada [nja]'ed me. Thank you, I suspected it was even older than the net.

edited 28th Jul '14 12:31:42 PM by LordGro

Let's just say and leave it at that.
Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#2719: Jul 28th 2014 at 12:46:43 PM

It doesn't seem to actually be in Bored Of The Rings, but I know that I first encountered it back when I was in high school. And that was between '72 and '76.

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
Candi Sorcerer in training from Closer to rimward than hubward Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
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#2720: Jul 28th 2014 at 5:40:17 PM

(whistles) The things you learn. Had no idea it was that old.

The problem with replacing the quote is that there are so many kinds of dragons. Except for a very few variants, most of them will get 'crunchy' for various reasons, from trying to harm their rider/Bond, to you happen to have strayed a hair into their territory. How do you even find a quote that sums up the massive variation of dragons in fiction?

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#2721: Jul 28th 2014 at 7:56:21 PM

[up] First idea, How To Train Your Dragon?

Gronkles, Zippleback, the Skrill... Boneknapper... Whispering Death... Burns its victims, buries its victims, chokes its victims, turns its victims inside-out... Extremely dangerous, extremely dangerous...

The Revolution Will Not Be Tropeable
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johnnye Since: Jan, 2001
#2723: Jul 29th 2014 at 2:39:02 AM

I recall a line in A Song Of Ice And Fire where Tyrion is remarking on how none of the scholars can get all their facts straight on the anatomy of (now dormant) dragons, I'll see if I can dig it out.

EDIT: Can't find a specific line that sums it up. Never mind, the How to Train quote is good.

edited 29th Jul '14 3:12:57 AM by johnnye

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#2724: Jul 29th 2014 at 4:30:33 AM

The page quote from Breathless Non Sequitur doesn't really fit the description.

Laconic:

A Non Sequitur snuck into the middle of normal-sounding dialogue, without any indication.

Quote:

Doctor Rumack: (completely deadpan) How soon can you land?

Captain Oveur: (deadpan as well) I can't tell.

Doctor Rumack: You can tell me. I'm a doctor.

Captain Oveur: No, I mean I'm just not sure!

Doctor Rumack: Can't you take a guess?

Captain Oveur: Well, not for another two hours.

Doctor Rumack: You can't take a guess for another two hours?

— Airplane!

edited 29th Jul '14 4:32:55 AM by Kiefen

Candi Sorcerer in training from Closer to rimward than hubward Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
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#2725: Jul 29th 2014 at 4:41:42 AM

That ought to be reviewed for length, at least.

(Goes off to get "Mine? Mine?" out of her head.) tongue

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