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Misleading title New Crowner: 11/21/2011: Cookie Cutter Fic get usage counts

Many people, upon seeing the title "Cookie Cutter Fic" assume that this is a trope about many fanfics recycling the exact same plot over and over again such that it becomes hard to tell one from another.

However, the trope is ACTUALLY about putting canon characters (or at least people with their names and vague descriptions, as they may not keep much similarity) into a completely different story in order to pass it off as a story for that setting. The resulting stories are the furthest possible thing from "cookie cutter" as far as standard fanfic for that setting goes. (Neville and Draco as a pair of non-magical boy detectives is NOT a standard Harry Potter fanfic premise!)

I would suggest something like "Cut and Paste Fic" (for pasting in the canon characters) or maybe "Find and Replace Fic" (suggesting that you wrote the story with completely different characters, then replaced the names with the characters for the setting you were passing it off as). Either of these would make a LOT more sense than the current setting.
 
 2 nrjxll, Sun, 6th Nov '11 12:31:34 PM Relationship Status: Not war
Unless this is actually a preexisting term, I'd be in favor. "Cookie cutter X" to me implies Strictly Formula X, which is pretty much the opposite of this trope.

Also, all the non-fanfic examples are largely if not totally incorrect.

Edit: Fixed the link in the title.

edited 6th Nov '11 1:03:21 PM by nrjxll

 3 Louie W, Sat, 12th Nov '11 12:57:56 PM from Babycowland
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Yeah, I think it is pretty unfitting to use the term "cookie cutter" in the name of a trope about fan fiction that does not actually use a strict or standard formula, so I agree with renaming this trope.

Feel free to tell me if you would like a crowner now or if you think that we should wait a bit to see what other people think about this.
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I'm not really sure what this name means.

edited 12th Nov '11 1:23:38 PM by MangaManiac

 5 nrjxll, Sat, 12th Nov '11 1:42:53 PM Relationship Status: Not war
I've considered that it might be a preexisting term - I know very little about the origins of the various 'fic' names - but unless that's the case, I'm all for a rename. We should definitely make a crowner, though - four people does not a consensus make, especially since I think this trope has pretty healthy stats.

Dragon Writer
Since there's a claim of misuse, with 58 articles and 243 inbounds, anyone up for a wikilink hunt?

No ptitles to worry about here, complete A thru E range, indexes exempt.

Characters abducted from canon to be used in an original fanfic

Fully formulaic ("cookie-cutter") fanfiction

Can't tell, may be trouble

edited 12th Nov '11 2:19:03 PM by Stratadrake

 7 nrjxll, Sat, 12th Nov '11 5:12:44 PM Relationship Status: Not war
When I was talking about misuse, I meant the examples on the page itself - I doubt that this can exist outside of fanfiction, and the examples from other types of work are more likely to be Universal-Adaptor Cast.

Dragon Writer
Ah, gotcha. Anyone up for documenting which in-page examples are good and bad?

edited 13th Nov '11 4:13:22 AM by Stratadrake

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I'm in favor of the change, it's one that continuously slipped me up in my early days on the wiki.
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 10 pokedude 10, Tue, 15th Nov '11 2:28:30 PM from Mount Silver
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I agree with renaming this. And at 52 wicks, renaming shouldn't be a problem yet.
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 11 Meta Four, Tue, 15th Nov '11 2:51:23 PM from riding the wave
AXTUCE MUN AXTE INCAL
Crowner hooked as requested.
 12 Louie W, Tue, 15th Nov '11 2:59:05 PM from Babycowland
Loser
nrjxll,
I've considered that it might be a preexisting term - I know very little about the origins of the various 'fic' names - but unless that's the case, I'm all for a rename. We should definitely make a crowner, though - four people does not a consensus make, especially since I think this trope has pretty healthy stats.
This is the only real evidence of the term "cookie cutter fic" being used to mean what the current trope means outside of TV Tropes that I could find after a quick Google search and it seems to based off of TV Tropes' article itself. In contrast, I found a couple other examples of cookie cutter fic being used to mean something else. While I might be missing something, I think it is relatively clear from those examples that "cookie cutter fic" is not used widely in the way that TV Tropes uses it.

edited 15th Nov '11 2:59:31 PM by LouieW

"irhgT nm0w tehre might b ea lotof th1nmgs i dont udarstannd, ubt oim ujst goinjg to keepfollowing this pazth i belieove iN !!!!!1 d
 13 nrjxll, Tue, 15th Nov '11 3:15:13 PM Relationship Status: Not war
In that case, yeah, this name is pretty much indefensible.

Can the crowner be called now?
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 15 Firebert, Mon, 21st Nov '11 10:30:56 AM from Somewhere in Illinois
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I'd say so; there's more than ten votes and 12:1 is a pretty strong consensus.

edited 21st Nov '11 10:31:18 AM by Firebert

 16 Meta Four, Mon, 21st Nov '11 11:00:09 AM from riding the wave
AXTUCE MUN AXTE INCAL
Calling in favor of renaming.
Also known as Katz
How about Transplant Fic? That isn't in use yet, AFAIK.

A lot of the examples probably fit as well or better under "Recycled Script" (which isn't exclusively for TV or movies any more). Ya think?

Bump for votes
 
So, essentially a Fusion Fic that fuses canon characters into an original story? I don't think I've heard a name for it in fanfiction circles.

Actually, what really differs it from an Alternate Universe Fic? That the characters don't even resemble their original selves?

Anyhow, my vote's on Transplanted Character Fic. Sounds best.
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 21 shimaspawn, Fri, 3rd Feb '12 8:56:49 AM from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
Calling in favour of Transplanted Character Fic.
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 22 Septimus Heap, Sat, 4th Feb '12 7:27:31 AM from Madrid, Spain Relationship Status: Mu
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I've moved the page, discussion and its wicks to Transplanted Character Fic, created a new laconic and Cut Listed the old one. I think we are done here.

 23 shimaspawn, Sat, 4th Feb '12 7:59:09 AM from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
Good work. Locking.
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Alternative Titles: Cookie Cutter Fic
21st Nov '11 11:16:38 AM
Vote up names you like, vote down names you don't. Whether or not the name will actually be changed is determined with a different kind of Crowner (the Single Proposition crowner). This one just collects and ranks alternative names.
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