All Purpose Evangelion Fanfiction Thread

The average non-Slanneshi Aspiring Champion of Chaos doesn't obsess over perfection itself, though; the obsessiveness with it is the key here. And really, Slaanesh is explicitly described as having pride and vanity as part and parcel of his/her/its portfolio; none of the other Chaos Gods do so, in contrast. Khorne is about bloodshed, violence, rage, and hatred; Nurgle is about despair, acceptance, and all things pertaining to vermin, disease, and decay (physical or non-physical, thus encompassing such things as political and financial corruption, stagnant bureaucracy, etc.); and Tzeentch is all about scheming, knowledge (especially forbidden lore), hope/ambition (it's hard to tell them apart with Tzeentchian worshippers), change, and sorcery. Pride does not really factor into the equation for them when it comes to corrupting people into their worship, even if after conversion it's more than common for the follower in question to feel a sense of pride over acting in a way that his patron deity favors. It's still a very different thing from the kind of Pride that attracts the attention of Slannesh and her Daemons — the one where you seek to monopolize the attention and praise of everyone around you to stroke your ego (perhaps more than just in the figurative sense of said phrase! ) as an end in and of itself, rather than just as a reassuring sign that you are walking the proper path of your patron god (after all, if everyone around you that you're certain are proper worshippers of your god denounce your actions as unseemly of their kind, then it's likely that you need to quickly reexamine your approach).

You've oversimplifying a bit there. Khorne is the patron of all kinds of martial prowess, not just the violent and gory kind (though he admittedly prefers that one).

Nurgle is also the patron of love, I think; not lust, love. As in, "Aww, c'mere to papa... I cooked up a new disease today, just for you!"

You are correct in highlighting the not-so-obvious aspects of the Chaos Gods... but also wrong in claiming that I am oversimplifying. For all the proofs that Khorne does emphasize prowess in combat (ranged combat through guns and artillery isn't bad in his opinion per se, but he does give more favor for the up-close and personal kind of combat), prefer skull/blood offerings from one's Worthy Opponents over the helpless and the powerless, and loathe the cowardly ways of sorcery and hedonistic self-indulgence, it is also a fact that pretty much anyone who initially worships Khorne as an embodiment of martial ability and honor or some similar positive trait in his portfolio will inevitably be given over to the negative aspects that I had mentioned before. The same applies to the other three gods.

That is, of course, not to say that everyone Khornate worshipper will end up a mindless, frothing berserker. Even the armies of Khorne have shrewd generals leading them who know their way around tactics and strategy; it's just that they too are souped on just as much Unstoppable Rage as the most Ax-Crazy of Berzerkers, if not more so, yet said generals know when letting the Unstoppable Rage consume them works in their (and Khorne's) favor, and when it does not, and more importantly, they have the willpower to clamp down on said rage and suppress it into a Tranquil Fury that is ready to instantly burn hell-hot at a moment's notice. (Hell, Khorne exemplifies this in his less actively violent moods, where he's the epitome of The Stoic, perpetually frowning but totally self-controlled.)

edited 20th Aug '15 2:28:08 PM by MarqFJA

I found a very well put-together fic recently. The writing is very easy on the eyes, descriptive and fluid. It's about Rei Ayanami getting sick and losing her senses, and it's set in a rebuilt post-Third Impact world.

It's not really focused on the setting though, it's very introspective and character focused. I liked it a lot.

... She died in her sleep at the very end, didn't she?

Or her ability to interact. Lose your senses like that, neurological damage most likely...

I'd prefer dying in her sleep but the cynic in me can't dismiss the alternative.

I thought it just left off partway through her illness, at a point of no return but still able to communicate through one sense. Like it's no secret that she's a goner, but it mercifully left off just before that point as if to end the story on a bittersweet note as opposed to just a bitter one.

Except that she makes a point of explicitly noting that she is actually dying due to her body suffering a gradual systemic failure of its most vital functions, with no way to stop it or even slow down the process (the medicine she was prescribed for at least achieving the latter is not working in the slightest), and by the end she not only lost all senses but touch, but the most recent loss was accompanied by a strong fever that left her bed-ridden and hasn't abated, which is not a good sign at all.

edited 23rd Aug '15 12:38:22 PM by MarqFJA

Yeah, not something I'd call bittersweet.

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EDIT: Damn, they still haven't fixed youtube embeds?

edited 23rd Aug '15 1:19:40 PM by EvaUnit01

By this point or even before Rei might have thought of getting Mercy Killed...

Marq: I'm aware of Rei and Shinji's realization that she's not going to get better, and at the end of the story it's clear that Rei's on the way out.

I know it's more bitter than sweet, but I said that I thought it ended with a tiny bit of sweetness because even with a fever, it doesn't show her losing her touch, or straight-up dying via wasting away or going into seizures or what have you. The story cuts away while she has some self-control left. Instead of going entirely bitter, the story cuts off either a few days/weeks before her death or continued deterioration, or before she dies in her sleep like you suggested - which spares the hardest part of the ordeal, and ends with a display of Shinji's dedication to her as her caretaker.

"Less sour" does not equal "sweet" for my plebeian tongue.

Marq, Kaiser, question related to SCE.

How does it sound to portray Mayumi as a Yakuza Princess? Specifically, her uncle was the head of the Yamagishi-gumi, Japan's most powerful yakuza clan, who controlled Tokyo-2. Under their dominion, Tokyo-2 is considered neutral ground by the smaller clans who conduct their dealings there, be it business or bloodshed. The gigantic clusterfuck during Zeruel's attack pretty much decapitates the clan's power and influence, resulting in the clan's disintegration; Mayumi (who was born less than a year after said clusterfuck) is the closest whom could be considered a heir, even though she's got nothing to be heir of.

I've been thinking of this because I had no backstory for her so far in the SCEverse, only what I wanted to do with her (which is ending up in a "Romantic" Two-Girl Friendship with Rei's daughter).

edited 25th Aug '15 12:06:15 PM by amitakartok

... That is a drastic change to her backstory. From what I know of her, she comes from a more or less ordinary middle-class background.

See Yukio from Black Lagoon for starter. Actually, there's so much for this to work, from Yamato Nadeshiko to Rebellious Princess to Fallen Princess.... Consider your characterization, her environment, her personality.

You think Gendo Ikari will share power in his city with any organization able to operate outside his reach?

That's adorable.

edited 25th Aug '15 12:47:31 PM by Night

It's not about what he wants (or does not want), though, but rather what he could do about it. He wanted a lot in canon, but couldn't have it his way all the time.

On another note, I've just come across Shimoneta, and I just cannot stop myself from imagining Shinji, Mari, and Rei in the roles of Tanukichi, Ayame (aka the obscenity terrorist known as "Blue Snow"), and Anna, respectively... and wondering where to fit Asuka, Mana, Mayumi, and the others into this.

edited 25th Aug '15 12:57:06 PM by MarqFJA

The problem with organized crime like Yakuza and Mafia is that sometimes you can buy their allegiance, but sometimes... you don't. And no, you can't just wipe out all of them overnight, without causing some kind of social upheaval, especially if they control things like petty crook turfs or something like that.

Even Vetinari knows better than just bulldoze them.

...I shouldn't have even asked that question, I see.

Gendo pretty much has unlimited authority inside the confines of his city and he has Section 2 to enforce it. He also has effectively total control over the city's services, so he can just harass them by turning off the water and power and converting their buildings to battle mode if he wants.

If they try to retaliate, that will cause them huge problems. Organized crime survives by not having wars with the authorities usually. These aren't Mexican narcos, they don't have the kind of cash to throw around to fight a government intent on destroying them. They are also Japanese organized crime, and operate in a Japanese environment. Going to war with the government will not be tolerated by society at large and get them in all kinds of trouble. They exist at the sufferance of the population, because they fill a need, but the government fills more needs and is certainly better respected. Making people choose is a losing strategy, especially making Japanese choose.

Okay, but the problem is the loyal (and stupid) ones, who can't function outside the organization, and the crazy ones, who always looking for troubles. While the latter you can erase without much problem if you willing to use extreme prejudices, the former can't, since if you erase them, emotional backlash could be used by the slightly less bloodthirsty ones to wage indefinite war "in the name of honor".

You should, at least, keeping the head of organization as figurehead, keeping the structures intact while making their power useless. Works for post-Japanese war, I presume.

Or you can just buy them. Bigger on raw resources, but pretty much reduces the number of causalities to very minimum.

Amita did say that the yakuza stuff was in Tokyo-2. Y'know, as opposed to Tokyo-3, which is where NERV is.

That said, I think that Mayumi probably works best with her canon backstory.

I love how you managed to forget about how Section 2 was mysteriously absent or useless in a few crucial occasions, such as the city-wide blackout that is heavily suspected by the fans to have been the doing of Seele, as an attempt to test Tokyo-3 (and by proxy, Nerv's) defenses in preparation for their agenda's worst-case scenario of having to storm the city and the Geo-Front to put an end to an openly rebellious Gendo. AFAIK, a lot of fans strongly suspect that Section 2 is either considerably infiltrated by Seele's own agents or is completely on Seele's payroll, and the writers among those fans regularly depict Gendo as holding such suspicions, and yet lamenting that he can't do much about it besides keeping a relatively small cadre of loyal agents in critical positions on the department to stave off assassination attempts.

Uh... this isn't meant to sound offensive or anything, but way to go for everyone in the thread for Completely Missing The Point.

When I asked that question of mine, I specifically wrote that it only applies to SCE, yet everyone immediately jumped and assumed I was talking canon. If it was one person, that would be one thing... but four people? And no one noticed?

Flat "What" isn't a strong enough trope to describe my reaction.

edited 26th Aug '15 6:05:21 AM by amitakartok