Follower of Eris
Um....yeah....This trope has nothing to do with either The Most Dangerous Game or Hunting the Most Dangerous Game. If it did, it would be about playing a video game where you're actually killing real people when you kill mooks.
All I could come up with is another crappy snowclone: A Video Game Is Trying To Kill You.
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." Niels Bohr
I see two problems besides:
- The description needs to be tweaked so that it isn't confused with Ultra Super Death Gore Fest Chainsawer 3000 and/or Murder Simulators
- This isn't video game specific; case in point, The Ring. The relevant trope The Ring alludes to is Brown Note, though on a cursory glance I'm not sure that should be the case. Either this needs to be merged into Brown Note or the similar examples from Brown Note need to be split off and merged with it into an all-media trope.
edited 13th Aug '11 9:32:31 AM by Elle
^I wouldn't say this is necessarily a Brown Note. Those all take action just through being seen/heard/read/whatevered, while this can be "a hand reaches out of the screen and strangles you."
edited 13th Aug '11 9:33:13 AM by INUH
Infinite Tree: an experimental story
a Xeno Drac of Outworld
I disagree that this trope name is opaque, because my first thought about a game being "the most dangerous video game" is that it has a chance to kill you, which I think that the average person would think of.
That said, yeah, I think that either this trope should be expanded to include examples like The Ring, or a Super-Trope should be created. Possible names:
"Enjoy This Work At Your Own Risk"?
"The Cause Of Death Was Media"?
"The Fourth Wall Will Not Protect You— hey, wait a second...
edited 13th Aug '11 12:26:40 PM by frodobatmanvader
derflatermouse.
The Fourth Wall Will Not Protect You refers to "you" as in "the viewer", not solely the characters. It may be used along with this but isn't required.
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Elle, please explain why you consider "We should change Brown Note" a valid option on this crowner? If Brown Note has a problem, it should be discussed in a thread for that trope.
edited 13th Aug '11 1:59:40 PM by Madrugada
...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
My thought is that if other people agree part of the problem exists over there, then a thread for it can be started. Also, I'm not sure which way it actually is because I haven't had time yet to read Brown Note all the way through.
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Ok. That makes sense.
...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
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Always hiding my keys in the bug bucket, you bastard dog.
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Always hiding my keys in the bug bucket, you bastard dog.
Here's the description with the speculation of motive, New Media Are Evil, and social commentary removed:
''An evil video game, usually packing some paranormal baggage. Playing the game will cause you to go mad, suffer from horrible nightmares, and even commit suicide in an effort to make the horrors stop. Sometimes, they are less destructive, casting a trance over the player and causing him or her to play constantly, at the expense of their health and relationships.
Not to be confused with The Most Dangerous Game, or the trope named after that story. Subtrope of The Game Plays You.''
Now, if we replace "video game" with "video game, movie or book", what else would be an example?
- Tom Riddle's diary from Harry Potter?
- The video tape from The Ring?
- (From Brown Note)...from Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone Complex; a cybernetic puzzle box is discovered that traps the mind of anyone who cybernetically links to it... Playing is a certain obscure director's last film, which he never shot, which contains images so profoundly emotional, that intruders never want to leave, only remain and watch the film.
- ...in 2nd Gig. A series of documents that contain the group's manifesto are scattered across the Net. If a person of suitable personality and physical qualifications reads all eleven in order, a cybernetic meme is unleashed that turns them into a fanatical soldier for the Eleven.
(Finally reading Brown Note, I see some examples that are duplicated between there and here, and I think they fit better here, but that's all that really needs to be done to Brown Note)
Not Quite Batman
I launched the trope, originally calling it "The Polybius", but that didn't fly for obvious reasons. I later suggested "Video Game from Hell", someone else suggested its current title (which I did endorse), and the rest is history. I don't see anything in the writeup that would make people confuse it with Ultra Super Death Gore Fest Chainsawer 3000 or whatever; the two aren't even remotely similar.
So, if the title is a snowclone, that wasn't my idea. I'm up for changing the title if need be, but honestly, I think the writeup (and the trope itself) are fine as they are... what, specifically, is the problem with them?
edited 4th Sep '11 5:54:17 PM by EddieValiantJr
"Religion isn't the cause of wars, it's the excuse." —Mycroft Next
Consensus is to rename and write as non-videogame specific.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
Crowner swapped for Alt Titles.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
Bump for more votes.
This trope is often the result of old fogies (and thrill-seeking youth) concocting myths about the dangers of new, unfamiliar technology. However, it's become more and more popular for New Media Found Footage-style horror stories.
Lurking in the realm of urban legends as well as that of out-and-out fiction, the most dangerous video game occasionally finds its way into real life, in the form of outcries from concerned citizens and moral watchdogs who claim that real video games incite violence, antisocial behavior, and other ills on those who play them. Be that as it may, most of these theories are of the "fringe" variety.
Not to be confused with The Most Dangerous Game, or the trope named after that story. Sub-Trope of The Game Plays You.
edited 13th Nov '11 3:30:03 PM by kyfhv
If the consensus was to modify the description to make it non-video game specific, shouldn't the new title reflect that change?
I was thinking that, but didn't say that. I assumed there was some reason.
Seems like there's room in this trope for things like Jumanji (the game, not the movie) that aren't video games. So the name shouldn't be video game specific.
How about: Rated M For Malevolent
edited 14th Nov '11 8:05:02 AM by ArcadesSabboth
Oppression anywhere is a threat to democracy everywhere.
Dragon Writer
If this is not videogame-specific (meaning an in-universe videogame), then what's left to differentiate it from The Game Plays You which it claims to be the subtrope of?
An Ear Worm is like a Rickroll: It is never going to give you up.
Because it would include non-games, of course.
Rhymes with "Protracted."
First thing I thought of that wasn't media-specific is Soul Devouring Entertainment.
This needs some more votes.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. DickI don't like any of the alt titles so far.
Rhymes with "Protracted."
Crown Description:
Someone on the Image Pickin' thread complained that the title was a snowclone of Hunting the Most Dangerous Game. Thoughts?
Always hiding my keys in the bug bucket, you bastard dog.