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#6151: Jul 26th 2014 at 3:11:38 PM

F'cking Voldemort, man.

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#6152: Jul 26th 2014 at 3:15:38 PM

Don't know how much of the expanded universe deals with Vader, but AFAIK Revan could best him pretty definitively.

edited 26th Jul '14 3:16:23 PM by Spirit

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#6153: Jul 26th 2014 at 4:13:06 PM

[up][up] Would Voldemort have his Horcruxes? Even without them, he can teleport and do things with magic that nobody in the Harry Potter universe had thought possible before. In all likelihood, Vader wouldn't stand a chance.

[up] Anyone with electrical abilities could beat Vader.

edited 26th Jul '14 4:23:13 PM by Arawn999

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#6155: Jul 26th 2014 at 5:17:59 PM

@Tye Dye: More like The Black Knight.tonguecool

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#6156: Jul 26th 2014 at 5:52:51 PM

[up][up] Given that Vader is a cyborg and that Magneto can not only control metal on an atomic level by can - with some effort - generate and direct electricity, that would be even more of a Curb-Stomp Battle.

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#6158: Jul 26th 2014 at 6:31:27 PM

[up][up][up] That'd be hilarious. [lol]

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#6159: Jul 26th 2014 at 6:32:13 PM

What? Runnin' off, eh? Come back and fight, ya pansy!

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#6160: Jul 26th 2014 at 7:06:17 PM

No! The Black Knight cuts off all if Vader's limbs.

"It'd just a flash wound! Doesn't your fancy future world have cybernetics for that?"

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#6161: Jul 26th 2014 at 7:41:34 PM

Doesn't magneto have problems using his powers while in pain? A good force choke would probably stop magneto right off the bat.

Of course it depends compeletly on the version of both Vader or Magneto so, lol

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#6162: Jul 26th 2014 at 9:51:23 PM

[up] That's even if Vader could Force Choke Magneto while his life support suit and very body are being torn apart from the inside out.

edited 26th Jul '14 10:02:58 PM by Arawn999

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#6163: Jul 27th 2014 at 6:09:28 AM

So I know Wiz and Boomstick have said they hate Naruto (and to be honest, they should hate it), and that they won't include it in Death Battle cause they dislike Sasuke, but there are other characters besides Sasuke that they can use.

Have they considered Nemu Kurotsuchi vs Hinata Hyuuga?

Well this one might not work, as I think Nemu is much faster(with Shunpo) and stronger (since the gentle fist doesn't really rely on pure physical might, and both Hinata and Neji are Glass cannons who can take a hit very well).

Still, I bet it'd be an interesting fight.

edited 27th Jul '14 7:42:29 AM by HandsomeRob

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#6164: Jul 27th 2014 at 7:19:42 AM

[up] Ben said he hated Sasuke. As for Naruto as a whole; the main reason why its not used is the same for Bleach and One Piece and its BECAUSE the characters are still evolving in their abilities and as such, may likely prefer to avoid writing anyone from the series until they end. (Considering One Piece may not end until the day of Armaggeddon, it'll leave it down to Naruto vs. Ichigo)

As for Nemu vs. Hinata. I prefer Nemu by a LONG shot but while she has shown martial art and nimble skills in a filler arc, Hinata would end up hitting a pressure point followed by a direct blow to a vital region. Though considering Nemu is used to the punishment considering shes been slashed, beatened up, and impregnated and killed and revived in a way that it couldn't be put on manga or television, she probably could take more punishment than Hinata.

[up][up] I doubt a force choke would finish Mags off in time. All he'd have to do is crush the mechinisms inside keeping Vader alive

edited 27th Jul '14 7:25:37 AM by Silverfan

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#6165: Jul 27th 2014 at 7:50:45 AM

I could almost picture Mayuri giving Nemu a way to counter the Chakra blocking abilities of the Gentle Fist by accident.

Like she doesn't have the Chakra points of a human (I suspect Spiritual Pressure and Chakra are fundamentally the same thing), so while the Gentle fist hurts like hell, it can't seal her power, or maybe something crazy like her organs being Made of Iron.

Then again, with the Byakugan and the Gentle fist techniques (except for the Kaiten, which she doesn't seem to know), Hinata might be able to counter a lot of techniques Nemu could use....though I don't think Nemu knows any Kido spells.

It would probably come down to who could dish out more punishment, and take it, and that's where Nemu would probably take it, for the reasons stated above.

edited 27th Jul '14 7:56:33 AM by HandsomeRob

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#6166: Jul 27th 2014 at 8:05:39 AM

but AFAIK Revan could best him pretty definitively.

Not to diss the Star Wars EU, but Revan is one of those ridiculously powerful, planet-wrecking Sith Lords along with Darth Nihiulus from the Old Republic timeline, right?

He could pretty much beat anybody from the movies. No one in the original films was ever written to be that powerful.

Would Voldemort have his Horcruxes? Even without them, he can teleport and do things with magic that nobody in the Harry Potter universe had thought possible before. In all likelihood, Vader wouldn't stand a chance.

I'm not sure. Normally I'd assert that the Horcruxes wouldn't be fair for a Death Battle, an external source of "invincibility" for Voldemort. But then, Superman was faced with Kryptonite, an external source of "weakness", during his battle.

Given the complicated nature of obtaining his Horcruxes and destroying them, I'd imagine they'd be excluded.

So then it'd come down to speed - will Vader Force Choke Voldemort, or will Voldemort cast Avadra Kedavra first. I read a fan fic that had a fun interpretation, with Voldemort's magical energy being deflected by the lightsaber, forcing Voldemort to rely on Crucio. But I doubt that'd happen here.

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#6167: Jul 27th 2014 at 8:30:09 AM

I wonder if Voldemort could use one of those enchantments that cause electronics to fail.

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#6168: Jul 27th 2014 at 8:37:09 AM

[up][up][up] Nah shes hinted to know some if we're including filler. During the same arc she fought Uryu she used (I think) Sokatsui. Then again, I tend to skip filler arcs so I'm working off of memory

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#6169: Jul 27th 2014 at 8:49:05 AM

[up]

That makes sense.

Only Zaraki, most of the Eleventh squad except for Yumichika, and Ichigo seem unable (or unwilling) to use Kido.

Now I'm wondering what Jutsu Hinata might know outside of the basic stuff that would have been taught at the Academy, or if she's only proficient in the Hyuuga Jutsus.

I know she has good Chakra control apparently, but nothing is said beyond that.

I would think Kurenai might try and teach her some Genjutsu. Someone who can see through illusions being able to use them as well would be dangerous.

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#6170: Jul 27th 2014 at 8:51:47 AM

Not to diss the Star Wars EU, but Revan is one of those ridiculously powerful, planet-wrecking Sith Lords along with Darth Nihiulus from the Old Republic timeline, right? He could pretty much beat anybody from the movies. No one in the original films was ever written to be that powerful.

This video should help you get some context on what Revan can do.

edited 27th Jul '14 8:51:56 AM by VeryMelon

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#6171: Jul 27th 2014 at 1:14:02 PM

Would Voldemort have his Horcruxes? Even without them, he can teleport and do things with magic that nobody in the Harry Potter universe had thought possible before. In all likelihood, Vader wouldn't stand a chance.

I can't remember if his Horcruxes affected his magical power in some way in addition to making him immortal, so I'm not sure. If they did make him more powerful, then they'd probably come up in the fight. And as for his immortality, well, Starscream technically didn't die in his fight with Rainbow Dash, yet he still lost because he was beaten to the point that he couldn't fight anymore. I'd imagine that if Vader (or someone else, if they end up pairing Voldemort with a different character) managed to destroy Voldemort's body, he'd be reduced to a wandering spirit and would lose.

Granted, the only way that happened before was through The Power of Love (which Vader likely wouldn't be able to use against him), and his rebirth gave him some degree of protection against that particular weapon, so it's probably a moot point anyway. Vader would likely have to invoke the Chunky Salsa Rule in order to win, and even then, it's possible Voldemort's immortality would make him resistant to even that.

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#6172: Jul 27th 2014 at 1:55:47 PM

[up] The Horcruxes only made him immortal, but they also twisted his appearance into a bald, noseless Evil Albino with glowing red eyes and Hellish Pupils. Even as a "ghost" he was able to fight... somewhat... by possessing other beings, so he could take over Vader.

Lilly's Heroic Sacrifice combined with The Power of Love is what caused his Avada Kedavra to be reflected back at him and why he couldn't physically touch Harry, but that only applied to Harry and was nullified by Voldemort using Harry's blood in his resurrection ritual. Harry's own Heroic Sacrifice at the end of book seven provided the same protection to all of Hogwarts, but that's non-applicable to his theoretical presence in a Death Battle.

edited 27th Jul '14 2:06:07 PM by Arawn999

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#6173: Jul 27th 2014 at 7:19:51 PM

Wasn't he only able to possess the guy from the first book because the guy was helping him? I don't remember anything in the book saying he could just soul grab someone.

And don't physical objects block Avada Cadaver? I don't really the battle is as one-sided as you guys are making it.lol

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#6174: Jul 27th 2014 at 7:43:10 PM

Hmm... Considering Vader's limbs are mechanical, I wonder if he can just use those to block spells like he can with blaster shots.

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#6175: Jul 27th 2014 at 11:54:22 PM

[up][up] & [up] When he uses it against Harry at the end of Goblet of Fire the tombstones struck by it are destroyed, and during his fight with Dumbledore at the end of Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix any non-reflective object that gets hit by it is destroyed. One more thing: Voldy can read minds like a book, and I don't think Vader ever mastered blocking out telepaths.

Also, he possessed Nagini and briefly took over Harry in Book 5, but it's implied - and explicitly stated in the case of the former - that he was able to do so because they were both Horcruxes.

edited 28th Jul '14 12:14:31 AM by Arawn999


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