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feotakahari Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer from Looking out at the city Since: Sep, 2009
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#1: May 17th 2011 at 2:17:40 AM

. . . who I know full well will get killed off for shock value, plot reasons, and/or a cheap joke. I just read the "Kitten" arc of Sluggy Freelance, and I found that I couldn't keep reading after Fay's death. I don't even know why I liked her—she got what, four lines?—but somehow, the realization that her entire fictional universe was stacked against her, combined with some aspect of her personality that I still haven't figured out on a conscious level, got me rooting for her against her inevitable fate. This has happened to me over and over, and a lot of my own attempts at writing have been ways of putting an Expy of a doomed character in a starring role—proving that they can handle the part, that they're not flat or meaningless. (And yes, I kill off characters, but not cheaply, and I've let them survive plenty of stories where the cliche would be to have them die horribly.)

This post would be too self-focused if I left it at that, so: has anyone else grown attached to a doomed character?

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#2: May 17th 2011 at 3:04:26 AM

This is why some people argue that death does not quality make.

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FuschlatzOReilly Since: Dec, 1969
#3: May 17th 2011 at 3:07:31 AM

My immediate family is made entirely of Doctor Who fans, myself included. I'm the Spoiler Hound of the group, and as such the only one who wasn't shocked and disappointed when Rory Williams had been temporarily retgone'd.

edited 17th May '11 3:07:44 AM by FuschlatzOReilly

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#4: May 17th 2011 at 4:36:29 AM

Keiichi and friends in Higurashi No Naku Koro Ni. Well, in earlier arcs, at least. The arcs where the population of Hinamizawa dies really hit me.

Also, Len and Rin in "Prisoner" and "Paper Airplane". I watched that series once. NEVER AGAIN.

edited 17th May '11 4:39:10 AM by TsundeRay

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Aondeug Oh My from Our Dreams Since: Jun, 2009
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#5: May 17th 2011 at 7:18:38 PM

Yeah. I seemed to have a nack for it with FMA. My favorite character would always be the next one to die...

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juancarlos Faith in the self. Since: Mar, 2012
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#6: May 17th 2011 at 7:30:46 PM

I noramlly can see who dies easily. But when I don't...it's beautiful. At least, I know my jaw dropped on the floor is. :P

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BobbyG vigilantly taxonomish from England Since: Jan, 2001
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#7: May 17th 2011 at 7:36:53 PM

Happened to me way too many times in Homestuck: Dad, Tavros, Bro, Nepeta, Equius...

Regarding Doctor Who, I was completely caught off-guard by Rory's death in "Cold Blood". That was quite a shock for me. Of course, at this point, killing Rory has gotten really old.

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juancarlos Faith in the self. Since: Mar, 2012
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#8: May 17th 2011 at 7:39:25 PM

Really? Only seen it twice...

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Aondeug Oh My from Our Dreams Since: Jun, 2009
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#9: May 17th 2011 at 7:43:05 PM

Homestuck is oddly something it's never happened with. Well I was attached, but I've never been terribly emotionally invested. It's just impossible to take that seriously and yet impossible to not take at least somewhat seriously. It still means I haven't cried or gone "NUUU D:" yet though. Well I went "NUUU D:" all of once.

Thing that hit me the most wasn't a death oddly. It was when Kanaya saw Vriska kiss Tavros. That almost made me cry. My heart dropped and I felt like shit for a bit. Now if that character dies then...hmm. That might hit me hard enough to get me crying. She's my favorite character.

Ah well...

OTHER EXAMPLES. The dude I call The Girly Boy from The Outlaw Josey Wales. I liked him. A lot. He died early on but he was cool and I didn't want him to. I cried.

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I will miss you Girly Boy...I will miss you...

edited 17th May '11 7:49:00 PM by Aondeug

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randomtropeloser Since: Jan, 2001
#10: May 17th 2011 at 7:48:04 PM

If you got attached to them before they died, it's probably because the writer waas skilled and was able to make a character who successfully did their job in the story.

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#11: May 17th 2011 at 7:54:18 PM

Shinji. Not Ikari, Kido. MAJOR SPOILERS

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feotakahari Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer from Looking out at the city Since: Sep, 2009
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#12: May 18th 2011 at 8:39:40 PM

^^ I dunno. This seems to happen most for me when the doomed characters are more likeable and/or interesting than the characters who're guaranteed to survive. Case in point: Battle Royale, where the two characters I successfully predicted would be the sole survivors have both been described on this wiki as bland Mary Sues, and the character I liked the most (an insane self-proclaimed "space warrior") died within two pages of her introduction and served no purpose besides dark comedy.

edited 18th May '11 8:40:18 PM by feotakahari

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LoniJay from Australia Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
#13: May 18th 2011 at 11:20:47 PM

Chief from Goblins just had to be the one to die, didn't he. He was my favourite of the adventuring party.

Although, pretty much all the Goblins protagonists are likable. Even Minmax.

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EnglishIvy Since: Aug, 2011
#14: May 18th 2011 at 11:35:00 PM

Characters die. It's just a fact of fiction. I would much rather a beloved character perish, than for them to be resurrected and have their death (and life) be cheapened.

juancarlos Faith in the self. Since: Mar, 2012
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#15: May 18th 2011 at 11:37:52 PM

Depends. I think Superman's resurrection deepened his character. Same goes to Batman...Especially Batman's.

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EnglishIvy Since: Aug, 2011
#16: May 18th 2011 at 11:40:50 PM

Mullets do not equal character depth.

Actually, come to think of it, comic books are a major offender when it comes to cheap death and resurrection. Is it the fact that they're a serial medium?

edited 18th May '11 11:42:02 PM by EnglishIvy

juancarlos Faith in the self. Since: Mar, 2012
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#17: May 18th 2011 at 11:54:52 PM

Well, maybe it was the meta level at which the death was playing with (The whole "the replace of the superman will never match the real hero" thing)

Actually, it's only superhero comic books. And it's mostly because death is a cheap way to obtain drama and the publishers have millions and millions of ways of escaping death.

Personally, when it's well written and with no bullshit (Like Batman's. Which never pretended you to believe he was going to stay dead) they work. Some don't even work under that assumption (Barry Allen comes to mind)

It really depends on the writer.

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Beholderess from Moscow Since: Jun, 2010
#19: May 19th 2011 at 2:07:40 AM

This one tends to get attached to the characters, and hates it when the characters she grows attached to die. That is one of the main reasons this one always seeks out spoilers before reading/watching*/playing anything. Once she learns which characters are going to die and at which moment, she is able to "switch off" any attachment and empathy for them. A few episodes before their demise such character becomes just a "dead man walking" for her and she stops paying any attention to them.

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Carciofus Is that cake frosting? from Alpha Tucanae I Since: May, 2010
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#20: May 19th 2011 at 2:10:08 AM

Mullets do not equal character depth.
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#21: May 19th 2011 at 11:51:22 AM

Ned Fucking Stark. Also, that bodyguard of his, Jory. Seriously, what in fuck's name was that, Jaime Lannister?!

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#22: May 19th 2011 at 4:32:07 PM

I always get attached to characters that get killed too. D: I usually never expect it either, but hence the "shock value". Ugh. It gets me every time. It's just that sometimes, I relate to them a whole lot more than the main character, because they are more human (even showing how inevitably mortal they are).

It really is sad. :<

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KageNara Since: May, 2011
#23: Feb 10th 2013 at 7:24:48 PM

I feel this way alot. while I still like "Ice and Fire" most likely due to the butt load of characters, but The Walking Dead and Downton Abbey have been ruined for me.

I also get annoyed when people complain about characters returning, there are really good stories out there that are void of the characters risking their lives.

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#24: Feb 10th 2013 at 7:29:12 PM

Attached to fictional characters?

Trust me, it's worse when you're roleplaying or something. I was kind of shocked at Pathfinder when I felt like I'd been punched in the gut by my animal companion's death (I was playing a druid).

Matues Impossible Gender Forge Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#25: Feb 10th 2013 at 7:44:29 PM

I apparently did this to other people in a roleplay, where my character unexpectedly committed an act of self-sacrifice.

edited 10th Feb '13 7:44:40 PM by Matues

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