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Repurpose into an index and split: Foot Focus get usage counts

 1 Dragon Quest Z, Wed, 20th Apr '11 1:39:25 AM from Somewhere in California
The Other Troper
Foot Focus is a mess. The actual meaning is a close up shot of bare feet (at least the laconic page has that right). But a number of wicks and page examples confuse it for Does Not Like Shoes or closeups of feet that are wearing shoes.

The description doesn't help, as it has a lot more text than it needs. The title likely doesn't help either. I can fix the description and wicks, but I'm also asking for a rename if you agree the name is causing a lot of the confusion.

Now these are wicks from G and H (with Does Not Like Shoes confusions being listed as simply "DNLS").

edited 20th Apr '11 1:39:46 AM by DragonQuestZ

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 2 shimaspawn, Wed, 20th Apr '11 1:51:30 AM from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
Constantine had close ups of feet walking across the floor.
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 3 Dragon Quest Z, Wed, 20th Apr '11 1:57:19 AM from Somewhere in California
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Okay, but the context on the page was still incorrect (I think, it's a bit hard to tell).

edited 20th Apr '11 1:58:46 AM by DragonQuestZ

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Cure Candy
Well some of those wicks are correct like Houkago Play as long as the camera focuses on the foot (Hence the title Foot Focus). This trope pretty much is everything that targets the Foot Fetish crowd.
 5 shimaspawn, Wed, 20th Apr '11 10:32:17 AM from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
[up] No, the trope specifies that it has to be bare feet. Shoes explicitly do not count.
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Cure Candy
I meant bare feet. I am surprised we don't have a Shoe focus trope particularly High heels. Its just as important in the whole Foot Fetish Turn On Tropes crowd.

edited 20th Apr '11 11:21:01 AM by Raso

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Then maybe we need a page called Shoe Focus, or possibly High Heel Focus.
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 8 Dragon Quest Z, Wed, 20th Apr '11 1:26:23 PM from Somewhere in California
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That might be a bit too specific. A close up on a piece of clothing is usually for anything that is too small to see the details from a long shot, so such a trope would be more general.
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Cure Candy
If its clearly intended for the Foot Fetish crowd then it would. There are some very egregious examples of High Heels used for this. (Ai Kora for one has a guy who likes to get stepped on most of all by High Heels and man they focus on the feet when he is around.)

edited 20th Apr '11 1:37:10 PM by Raso

 10 Dragon Quest Z, Wed, 20th Apr '11 1:44:21 PM from Somewhere in California
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That would be Playing to the Fetishes for deliberate Fetish focus. Anything more specific would run the risk of going behind the Google curtain.
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Cure Candy
Not really if the camera itself likes to focus on the girl wearing High Heels to target that crowd is the same thing as Foot Focus. (That is what I ment)
 12 Dragon Quest Z, Wed, 20th Apr '11 1:55:56 PM from Somewhere in California
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The problem is just focusing on a body part for fetish reasons isn't limited to feet, so it would be The Same but More Specific of either Author Appeal, Fanservice, or Playing to the Fetishes. But if a piece of pretty clothing was given a close up, that would be for Rule of Glamorous. Yet that would still be more than just shoes. It could be jewelry, hair decorations, a belt, or a piece of a dress.
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 13 Dragon Quest Z, Fri, 22nd Apr '11 4:28:42 AM from Somewhere in California
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Now back on topic, this is about fixing the problems with the trope, not trying to come up with other tropes just to fit a turn on.
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grimAuxiliatrix
I want to point out that Foot Focus is already behind the curtain, due to the fetishistic talk. I personally would also like to see that diminished when it isn't relevant to the example. Foot Focus very much is NOT Playing to the Fetishes, only with feet.

The only title I think that might possibly help is calling it Barefoot Focus. Because, other than that, the title pretty much is Exactly What It Says on the Tin
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 15 shimaspawn, Fri, 22nd Apr '11 7:13:40 AM from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
Yeah, the name is pretty much exactly what it says on the tin. It's focusing on feet. I think it just needs the sort of routine spring cleaning all Turn On Tropes tend to need after a while, then we can let it back out into the world.

Also, Giant Foot of Stomping is correct in context. It is referring to close ups of bare feet. Not the stomping itself.

Houkago Play also seems correct in context. The text is just going on about the things that cause the manga to focus on her bare feet.

edited 22nd Apr '11 7:17:21 AM by shimaspawn

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 16 Dragon Quest Z, Fri, 22nd Apr '11 1:27:27 PM from Somewhere in California
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The problem is the trope is focusing on bare feet, and the name doesn't indicate that part. Plus again, some of the wicks focus on shoes.

edited 22nd Apr '11 1:27:59 PM by DragonQuestZ

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 17 shimaspawn, Fri, 22nd Apr '11 2:07:08 PM from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
Only two of them. That's obviously not a common source of misuse from your survey. Nor is confusion with DNLS. You have in fact proven the antithesis of your misuse theory here. It seems the trope is generally being used correctly.
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 18 Dragon Quest Z, Fri, 22nd Apr '11 2:15:39 PM from Somewhere in California
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7 out of 18 wicks is not proving the opposite. And narrowing it down to just two points of misuse is not a valid argument against mine.
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 19 shimaspawn, Fri, 22nd Apr '11 2:24:03 PM from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
[up] There's only four bad wiks in there. Not seven. Trying to shove good, valid examples into the bad category doesn't mean there's actual misuse.

Constantine, Giant Foot of Stomping, and Houkago Play are all correct.

edited 22nd Apr '11 2:26:17 PM by shimaspawn

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 20 Dragon Quest Z, Fri, 22nd Apr '11 2:32:24 PM from Somewhere in California
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1. I didn't include the giant foot wick in there, as that was noted to be correct. 2. It's about closeups, and an example that makes it seem like something else is still incorrect. If you list Star Wars as an example of a show with The Lancer, but you list Luke as that character, it's still a misuse.

Plus I wrote this trope, and it didn't get redefined since then, so I should know what it means.
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 21 shimaspawn, Fri, 22nd Apr '11 2:39:45 PM from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
They didn't make it seem like something else. They gave reasons for the camera to focus on bare feet. Not the same thing. They're well written. For some reason you don't seem to be able to parse them and I'm not sure how to make it clearer to you that they're talking about exactly this trope as you agree the definition is.
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 22 Dragon Quest Z, Fri, 22nd Apr '11 2:43:26 PM from Somewhere in California
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Take the Houkago Play wick. The middle part is correct. But the other two are not, as using the feet doesn't require a closeup, and using the feet isn't really this trope at all, and the third part is about putting on shoes. Those are still misuses.
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 23 shimaspawn, Fri, 22nd Apr '11 2:49:01 PM from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
The first one is about attacks that make the camera focus on feet. Putting on and off shoes involves the camera focusing on bare feet. It's not just about the shoes. Those are still correct. I'm not sure how you don't get it. The fact that other things are mentioned in the description does not suddenly make it not this trope.

edited 22nd Apr '11 2:50:41 PM by shimaspawn

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 24 Dragon Quest Z, Fri, 22nd Apr '11 2:52:45 PM from Somewhere in California
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First of all, it's not written that way, so don't blame me if I can't magically see what isn't stated about a show I haven't watched. Second of all, putting on footwear is not this trope either, as it's about focusing on the bare foot, not a soon to be covered one. That's still a misuse.

Now I'll give the Constantine one, but as I didn't include Giant foot in my misuse count, that still leaves 6 out of 18, a third, which is considered clear misuse.

If you like, I can check more wicks.

edited 22nd Apr '11 2:53:16 PM by DragonQuestZ

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 25 shimaspawn, Fri, 22nd Apr '11 3:01:49 PM from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
Look at your foot, without shoes. It is bare. If you are taking off or putting on shoes, and the camera focuses on your bare foot before you get the shoe on, it is still this trope. You focus on a bare foot, then you put a shoe on it.

edited 22nd Apr '11 3:02:09 PM by shimaspawn

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Page Action: Foot Focus 2
9th Mar '12 11:59:09 AM
What would be the best way to fix the page?
At issue:
How to fix Foot Focus (round 2).
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