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artman40 Since: Jan, 2001
#1: Jan 21st 2011 at 7:58:48 PM

I suggest renaming Narrow Escape due to the fact that hiding behind objects smaller than them is not only used for escaping, but also lurking for someone.

rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#2: Jan 21st 2011 at 8:04:59 PM

Please see Trope Renaming Guidelines. That is by far insufficient reason to change the title.

(BTW, many trope titles do not include all possible applications of the trope; the broadness or narrowness of the title is not really important, unless it causes misuse and/or is outright misleading.)

Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.
Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#3: Jan 22nd 2011 at 2:07:01 AM

That's a really broad title for such a specific trope. I could swear we have the name under something else though.

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Leaper Since: May, 2009
#4: Jan 22nd 2011 at 2:11:26 AM

Well, I for one thought that it was Exactly What It Says on the Tin, which it most definitely is not.

Check for misuse?

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#5: Jan 22nd 2011 at 2:27:47 AM

Stats:

Narrow Escape found in: 25 articles, excluding discussions.

This title has brought 14 people to the wiki from non-search engine links since 20th FEB '09.

We could actually check the individual examples.

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Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#6: Jan 22nd 2011 at 2:52:00 AM

punctuated titles

  • Bar'd - parodied (not used)

unpunctuated titles

edited 22nd Jan '11 2:52:28 AM by Deboss

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Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#7: Jan 22nd 2011 at 2:52:56 AM

It seems to be on more indexes and related tropes than correctly used on works pages.

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Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#8: Jan 22nd 2011 at 7:33:23 AM

My objection is that Narrow Escape is a pre-existing term, but not for this trope (much like Going Down with the Ship was before it was changed), it needs to be changed. I've written to an animation site and asked, since most of the available online animation glossaries are computer animation terms rather than shot-description terms. Let's see what they say...

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#9: Jan 22nd 2011 at 9:27:10 AM

That's my objection to Narrow Escape is that it sounds like Exactly What It Says on the Tin but isn't.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
I see the Awesomeness.
#10: Jan 22nd 2011 at 8:28:36 PM

Yeah, I figured as much. It's one of those instances where somebody took a pre-existing term and just made it into a trope, without changing anything about it. Those tend to get confusing.

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Camacan from Australiatown Since: Jan, 2001
#11: Jan 23rd 2011 at 7:24:36 PM

This one is particularly confusing: a Narrow Escape is usually part of a narrow escape.

Leaper Since: May, 2009
#12: Mar 6th 2011 at 5:50:27 PM

I still say we should change this, even a month later. Tropes named after common phrases that have nothing to do with said phrase are a scourge, and I don't see any good reason to keep them.

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
peccantis Since: Oct, 2010
#14: Mar 6th 2011 at 10:06:15 PM

Support renaming. Hiding Behind Narrow Object for exactness?

edited 6th Mar '11 10:07:45 PM by peccantis

troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
Stratadrake Dragon Writer Since: Oct, 2009
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#17: Jul 19th 2011 at 8:51:51 PM

Since this is a horrid name and I'm still high off of doing my first, I'm going to bump this and suggest Behind The Stick, by analogy with Behind the Black.

Stratadrake Dragon Writer Since: Oct, 2009
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#18: Jul 20th 2011 at 6:09:17 AM

Long as we're here, let's do a diff.

Narrow Escape found in: 30 articles

This title has brought 18 people to the wiki

This is +5 wikilinks and +4 inbounds in six months.

edited 20th Jul '11 6:09:44 AM by Stratadrake

An Ear Worm is like a Rickroll: It is never going to give you up.
LouieW Loser from Babycowland Since: Aug, 2009
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#19: Jul 20th 2011 at 4:06:54 PM

There is now a single proposition rename crowner for this trope here.

So long as this is not a pre-existing term for what the tropes describes, I think there should be a rename since the trope title refers to something much broader than what the actual trope is about.

"irhgT nm0w tehre might b ea lotof th1nmgs i dont udarstannd, ubt oim ujst goinjg to keepfollowing this pazth i belieove iN !!!!!1 d
Stratadrake Dragon Writer Since: Oct, 2009
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#20: Jul 20th 2011 at 7:33:35 PM

"Narrow escape" is a pre-existing phrase in similar vein to "close call", and this trope is misusing the phrase.

An Ear Worm is like a Rickroll: It is never going to give you up.
troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#21: Jul 20th 2011 at 7:56:46 PM

Given extremely poor usage, I am comfortable renaming this. It's trying to be clever and ending up being opaque instead.

Rhymes with "Protracted."
Xtifr World's Toughest Milkman Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#22: Jul 21st 2011 at 12:22:38 AM

Maybe another word: Thin Cover, Skinny Cover, Skinny Screen.

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LouieW Loser from Babycowland Since: Aug, 2009
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#23: Jul 28th 2011 at 3:41:07 PM

Given the overwhelming support for a rename in the single proposition crowner, there is now an alternative titles crowner for this trope here. Feel free to add titles if you would like to do that.

edited 28th Jul '11 3:41:21 PM by LouieW

"irhgT nm0w tehre might b ea lotof th1nmgs i dont udarstannd, ubt oim ujst goinjg to keepfollowing this pazth i belieove iN !!!!!1 d
VVK Since: Jun, 2009
#24: Sep 2nd 2011 at 3:06:17 PM

For some reason "Hiding Behind A Line" sounds awfully appealing to me, but I can't say why it would be better than these options already given.

shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#25: Sep 2nd 2011 at 4:54:10 PM

[up] I really don't like that one. It sounds like it's something about lies.

edited 2nd Sep '11 4:54:35 PM by shimaspawn

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick

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