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OOZE Don't feed the plants! from Transsexual,Transylvania Since: Dec, 1969
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#1: Dec 12th 2010 at 12:10:46 PM

Is it neccessarily Unfortunate Implications if a sexually promiscuous female character is protrayed negatively? The character in question is not portrayed negatively BECAUSE she's promiscuous neccessarily, but more because she doesn't care about any of her partners and uses sexual/emotional manipulation to pry her way into powerful positions without actual merit. Is this Unfortunate Implications?

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melloncollie Since: Feb, 2012
#2: Dec 12th 2010 at 12:14:21 PM

I don't see how it would be, unless you were trying to imply that all promiscuous women are like that.

drunkscriblerian Street Writing Man from Castle Geekhaven Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: In season
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#3: Dec 12th 2010 at 12:17:30 PM

Agreed with melloncollie. As long as you are keeping it on an individual level and it doesn't feel like you are trying to make a general statement about sexually promiscuous women, its fine.

Because women like that do exist, unfortunately.

BTW, love the signature, mellon: The Prophecy, Lucifer to Thomas Daggett. cool

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melloncollie Since: Feb, 2012
#4: Dec 12th 2010 at 12:19:29 PM

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Spot-on delivery, IMO. *bows down to Viggo Mortensen*

SandJosieph Bigonkers! is Magic from Grand Galloping Galaday Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Brony
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#5: Dec 12th 2010 at 12:20:53 PM

It only really comes off as Unfortunate Implications if she's the only woman on the cast or if the trait is applied to all the women on the cast.

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OOZE Don't feed the plants! from Transsexual,Transylvania Since: Dec, 1969
Don't feed the plants!
#6: Dec 12th 2010 at 12:25:21 PM

K then. I was worried it might be seen as Unfortunate Implications but now I am reassured otherwise.

On a secondary note, are there any tropes associated with this character archetype?

I'm feeling strangely happy now, contented and serene. Oh don't you see, finally I'll be, somewhere that's green...
Ultrayellow Unchanging Avatar. Since: Dec, 2010
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#7: Dec 12th 2010 at 12:31:24 PM

Black Lingerie? I don't remember what we call it.

Except for 4/1/2011. That day lingers in my memory like...metaphor here...I should go.
Dec Stayin' Alive from The Dance Floor Since: Aug, 2009
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#8: Dec 12th 2010 at 12:35:34 PM

It sounds kinda like The Vamp or Femme Fatale to me, so I gues those are places to start looking.

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Ultrayellow Unchanging Avatar. Since: Dec, 2010
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#10: Dec 12th 2010 at 1:02:15 PM

Found it! You want Black Bra and Panties.

edited 12th Dec '10 1:02:29 PM by Ultrayellow

Except for 4/1/2011. That day lingers in my memory like...metaphor here...I should go.
JackMackerel from SOME OBSCURE MEDIA Since: Jul, 2010
#11: Dec 12th 2010 at 1:32:30 PM

A lot of people will call UI on it, regardless. Ignore them - as long as it's not over the top, you're good to go.

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LoniJay from Australia Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
#12: Dec 12th 2010 at 1:50:14 PM

If the men in your story who behave in a similar way are also portrayed negatively, it's not UI. That's the thing that really bugs people - men are congratulated for the same behaviour that women are despised for.

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Pinata from on your ceiling Since: Jan, 2001
#13: Dec 12th 2010 at 2:33:48 PM

Do what I usually do in that situation... have one sexually promiscuous woman who's doing it to be a bitch and is therefore portrayed negatively, and another one who's an Ethical Slut just doing it to have fun, and is therefore portrayed positively. Conversely, have a female virgin who is a bitch of an entirely different stripe show that it's not just promiscuous women who are prone to negative personality quirks.

Also, what Loni Jay said is very important... if you're going to criticize the promiscuity specifically rather than the reasoning behind it or the way she treats the other characters, be fair about it and show how maybe it's not such a good thing when men do it either.

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Alkthash Was? Since: Jan, 2001
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#14: Dec 12th 2010 at 5:30:00 PM

That seems very silly Pinata. A story doesn't need to strike up a balance of each viewpoint to contrast them. A combat monster doesn't need a pacifist foil. A luddite character doesn't necessitate a tech junkie. A doormat doesn't need to be contrasted with an assertive person.

JewelyJ from A state in the USA Since: Jul, 2009
#15: Dec 12th 2010 at 5:36:05 PM

^Well in touchy cases like this, it helps.

Alkthash Was? Since: Jan, 2001
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#16: Dec 12th 2010 at 5:42:33 PM

Unless the author is deliberately using the characters to make a point it just seems like they were shoehorned in to dodge Unfortunate Implications chatter.

SandJosieph Bigonkers! is Magic from Grand Galloping Galaday Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Brony
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#17: Dec 12th 2010 at 6:38:14 PM

Hehe...new scene in mind...

The heroine goes to talk with one of her science minded friends and just before she enters the door an Eldritch Abomination squeezes out of the room looking embarrassed. Entering the room, the heroine sees her friend in bed with her lover.

Friend: Test subject...reluctant...

Friend's lover: At least the cleaner bots are working...

Heroine looks around to see some cleaner bots cleaning some white gunk off the walls.

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Pinata from on your ceiling Since: Jan, 2001
#18: Dec 12th 2010 at 10:53:05 PM

I would so totally read your book, Josieph.

No breasts/scrotum on that last post. Shit just got real. -Bobby G
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