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Kory: i will need to do some more testing to see if the 500KB should be lowered even more but either way everyone can relax because the database will not crash or implode in anyway due to page size so splitting pages isn't a huge priority and is just more of a suggestion. For pages that actually load slow, splitting the pages will help slower internet users navigate these pages better.

     Eddie's old post 
Looks like we have a big page lock coming. Big in the sense of many pages and big in the sense that the pages to be locked are too big.

It looks like pages over 500,000 characters (html formatted, that is) are crashing the server when someone tries to edit them. programmer's whine 

They need to be fixed, anyway. Way too big for one page. They need to be broken up into subpages of a reasonable size.

I'm trying to get better about communicating before big changes, so we'll let this one run for a while before taking the action. The server crashes do come under the heading of 'urgent', though.

another programmer's thing 

See this page: Overly Long Pages

Explanation of what triggers the too-long page warning

Edited by kory on Dec 18th 2023 at 2:36:21 AM

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#1051: Feb 18th 2013 at 11:10:13 AM

I'll take Idiot Plot, if nobody minds.

Did Idiot Plot, but Boring, but Practical has a further subdivided video games section.

edited 18th Feb '13 11:57:39 AM by SeptimusHeap

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videogmer314 from that one place Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
IlVit Since: Oct, 2012
#1053: Feb 18th 2013 at 11:13:04 AM

I've done Characters.Magic The Gathering, Characters.Boardwalk Empire, and the biggest page on this wiki as of this writing.

edited 5th Mar '13 12:25:22 PM by IlVit

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#1054: Feb 18th 2013 at 11:14:15 AM

Here

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
MacronNotes (she/her) (Captain) Relationship Status: Less than three
(she/her)
#1055: Feb 18th 2013 at 11:36:11 AM

I'm going to operate on Shipper on Deck, Mundane Utility, and Deal with the Devil.

Edit: Done.

edited 20th Feb '13 5:35:33 AM by MacronNotes

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Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Hi
#1056: Feb 18th 2013 at 2:38:05 PM

Older Than They Look is done, but I think the Real Life page could do with just being cut down to the "in general" section.

EDIT: [down] Answered what I'd just said.

edited 18th Feb '13 2:42:18 PM by Willbyr

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#1057: Feb 18th 2013 at 2:40:42 PM

Did the page type and the null edit to make the index work in Older Than They Look

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#1060: Feb 19th 2013 at 5:30:49 AM

Characters.Merlin is done.

"If you aren't him, then you apparently got your brain from the same discount retailer, so..." - Fighteer
Telcontar In uffish thought from England Since: Feb, 2012
In uffish thought
#1061: Feb 19th 2013 at 7:45:19 AM

Boring, but Practical can be split into "Videogames" (retaining the current subfolders), "Other media", and "Real life" given the length of that section. I'll do it later if nobody gets there first.

That was the amazing part. Things just keep going.
IlVit Since: Oct, 2012
#1062: Feb 19th 2013 at 11:34:19 AM

Ironic Echo and Transformers: Prime have been done.

edited 19th Feb '13 11:45:49 AM by IlVit

MacronNotes (she/her) (Captain) Relationship Status: Less than three
troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#1064: Feb 20th 2013 at 8:45:51 PM

[up][up][up] You could just split off the ones that are big enough and leave the rest on the main page.

Rhymes with "Protracted."
IlVit Since: Oct, 2012
#1065: Mar 7th 2013 at 4:39:10 PM

Someone by the name of Koveras did Headscratchers.Dragon Age. In other news, I did Headscratchers.My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic Season 2.

edited 7th Mar '13 4:49:42 PM by IlVit

IlVit Since: Oct, 2012
#1066: Mar 14th 2013 at 11:10:29 AM

What Could Have Been.Film and Characters.Brutal are done.

edited 16th Mar '13 2:01:22 PM by IlVit

IlVit Since: Oct, 2012
#1067: Mar 21st 2013 at 6:41:23 PM

Funny.The Simpsons is done.

edited 21st Mar '13 6:41:38 PM by IlVit

XFllo There is no Planet B from Planet A Since: Aug, 2012
There is no Planet B
#1068: Mar 25th 2013 at 2:13:14 PM

I'm going to split Have a Gay Old Time. The page "broke" somehow when was adding an example.

EDIT: More or less done. It might need some example sorting. There are supposed to be two groups - traditional vs. intentional. Because the page was that large, people often did not notice. Also Example Indentation needs attention.

edited 25th Mar '13 4:26:53 PM by XFllo

ArcadesSabboth from Mother Earth Since: Oct, 2011
#1069: Mar 25th 2013 at 3:41:48 PM

For Characters/ pages in general, since Fighteer has recently ruled that races/groups/guilds/factions/classes should not be troped on characters/ pages, it's a good idea to check if moving those to a separate page (such as Exalted.Tropes Races and TheLordOfTheRings.Tropes Peoples) would be enough to split a Characters/ page.

So I've gotten Characters.Magic The Gathering down to 135541 by doing that. Good enough, or does it still need splitting?

edited 25th Mar '13 4:28:43 PM by ArcadesSabboth

Oppression anywhere is a threat to democracy everywhere.
MorganWick (Elder Troper)
#1070: Mar 25th 2013 at 11:04:46 PM

The threshold is 400K, so...

Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#1071: Mar 28th 2013 at 3:13:56 PM

The Avengers has recently passed the 400,000 point, so I'm splitting the page based on that.

You've got roaming bands of armed, aggressive, tyrannical plumbers coming to your door, saying "Use our service, or else!"
ArcadesSabboth from Mother Earth Since: Oct, 2011
#1072: Mar 28th 2013 at 4:07:00 PM

Is the list linked from the pinned post a bot/script-generated list? Because the two ptitle pages don't even exist anymore, so why are they on the list?

Edit: And so is the bottom Magical Lyrical Girl entry. What am I seeing? Is something wrong?

edited 28th Mar '13 4:08:16 PM by ArcadesSabboth

Oppression anywhere is a threat to democracy everywhere.
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#1073: Mar 28th 2013 at 4:08:06 PM

It's a script generated list. I assume you can't make it an ongoing report (like the Untyped Pages list) for performance reasons.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
MorganWick (Elder Troper)
#1074: Mar 28th 2013 at 4:55:58 PM

I wonder if it's about time to update it...

Telcontar In uffish thought from England Since: Feb, 2012
In uffish thought
#1075: Mar 29th 2013 at 2:16:05 AM

Probably. And the list in the pinned post is actually the very first one rather than the most recent.

That was the amazing part. Things just keep going.

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