YMMV / X-23

  • Broken Base: Much like her father, Laura has generated a bit of divisiveness among the fanbase.
    • Some readers view her as a Creator's Pet, claiming that whenever an X-book is taken over by Christopher Yost and/or Craig Kyle, X-23 is promoted to a lead role at the expense of other characters (in Kyle's case, this is not entirely unfounded), and because she's also often considered an A-List character rather than B- or C-List as is the case with most teenage heroes. Some New X-Men fans in particular accuse her of leading to Wind Dancer being written out of the series so Laura could jump in and take her place as Hellion's Love Interest at the same time Yost and Craig took over. Defenders will point out that while X-23 eventually did eventually develop as a romantic interest for Hellion, her stint in the book also began with her on the receiving end of a fair amount of bullying on his part (particularly over her being a clone) so she didn't really "jump in" and replace her (although Hellion does bully basically everyone not in his clique, which included Wind Dancer). Additionally, defenders will point out that other characters still received a substantial amount of focus during her time in the book, particularly Surge, Pixie and Mercury.
    • The Babysitting Arc of her solo series has proven highly contentious among readers, usually depending on whether they're Helix shippers or not, but even that isn't a firm dividing line:
      • It's generally agreed — even by readers with no love of Hellion — that the treatment of Julian was poorly handled. He killed Karima — at Karima's own request — to protect his friends and prevent her from killing all of them. He's subsequently treated like a monster by everyone, including Wolverine and Gambit, despite both being guilty of far, far worse. Both even try to actively keep Hellion away from Laura. Laura's own behavior is frequently called out even by her fans, as if anyone should understand the situation Julian is in now it should be her, and her cold rejection of what many believe are attempts by Julian to reach out to her for support coping with his situation has been decried as horribly out of character. This is particularly egregious that during New X-Men Julian was one of the first people to actively try and show her she was more than just a killing machine.
      • In the end, most Helix fans haven't forgiven Liu for breaking them up. Readers who don't like the Helix pairing, and particularly can't stand Hellion as a character (and a smaller minority who are fans of Hellion but hate Laura) generally tend to embrace it. Others — even Helix fans — argue that Laura was in no position for such a relationship at that time in her series, anyway, while agreeing it was mismanaged and both Laura and Julian were poorly characterized (and Wolverine and Gambit are tremendous hypocrites).
    • Laura's taking on the Wolverine name and cowl. Readers are starkly divided between those who love the idea and those who hate it, with almost no one in between. Supporters generally find it a natural development of her character, and put Laura forward as the most appropriate choice of all the potential candidates. Those against it tend to vary more widely: those who prefer for Laura to stand on her own merits and fear her unique personality will get lost or overwhelmed as Wolverine, those who hate the concept of Legacy Characters in general with no particular opinion one way or another on who is taking on the role, many who would rather Logan just be brought back to life, those who would have preferred another character (such as Daken, Sabretooth, or even Old Man Logan), and those who just flat-out hate her character altogether.
  • Counterpart Comparison: Some people still say that she's just a female Wolverine.
  • Crack Pairing: With Spider-Man. There's a large group of people on certain imageboard that must not be named who thinks they're cute together.
  • Creator's Pet: It's very hard to argue that she is not this to creator Chris Kyle. He has even gone on the record referring to himself as an "overprotective mother" of her in interviews.
  • Critical Dissonance: Although Laura taking on the Wolverine mantle makes for a Broken Base among readers (including the character's own fans), critical reception to the debut issue of All-New Wolverine has been universally positive.
  • Ensemble Darkhorse: The first X-Man after Wolverine to have her own page on this site (and one of the few to have her own series). Even when she joined the New X-Men, she was easily the most popular character. For a while, she was the only X-Man with her own page, but now Storm, Cyclops, Dazzler, X-Man (and Magneto, if you count him) have gotten in on the act.
  • Fanon: Before they gave her the name Laura in the comics, some X-Men: Evolution fanfic writers would give her many different names, different from fic to fic. Some still do. Also, as it was never stated in the show, many speculate as to whether she has metal bones or not (she doesn't in the comics due to never taking the full Weapon X treatment, but in the show she was shown to).
    • Although never stated in the books, it's incredibly popular among fans to explain Laura's Strong Family Resemblance to Sarah being as a result of Sarah using her own genetic material to repair the damaged DNA samples, thus making her Sarah's genetic daughter as well. However this theory has been refuted by Word of God.
  • Fan-Disliked Explanation: Marjorie Liu's explanation for her "breakup" with Hellion, which isn't helped by the hypocrisy of Wolverine and Gambit over the situation (seeing as they both have done far, far worse things in their time as X-Men), and Laura herself being written out of character. It's made more egregious when compared to how Laura and Julian were written in the first arc of the series.
  • Fan Nick Name: Still referred to more often than not as Girlverine to this day, for obvious reasons. Even more now that she's taken the Wolverine name on herself. The latter has also given rise to X-Verine.
  • Fan-Preferred Couple: As noted under Ship-to-Ship Combat it's a bit contentious, but the vast majority of fans prefer Laura with Hellion even after her Relationship Upgrade with Teen!Angel. The Les Yay with Jubilee and the mild teasing with Teen!Cyclops combined with their similarities make both of these options incredibly popular as well.
  • Fan Wank: A throwaway panel in Wolverine #80 (1994) features a scientist holding a test tube labeled #23. It's incredibly popular to twist this into being Laura's true "first" appearance in the books, despite the fact it predates her creation by Kyle and Yost by a decade, has nothing to do with the process for how she was originally created in-universe, is outright Jossed by her origin book, and isn't acknowledged by Marvel itself. Nonetheless, it doesn't stop it from popping up every now and then on Wikipedia (at which point it immediately gets removed).
  • Hilarious in Hindsight:
    • While trying to seduce her to his side, Hellverine takes the form of (a naked) Cyclops, and approaches her in a very squicky manner, stroking her face and commenting on her beauty. The scene is presented as very disturbing, but with a healthy dose of Foe Yay. Fast forward to All-New X-Men, and Laura and O5 Cyclops share a mutual attraction (though it's ultimately never acted on).
    • Laura dating Teen!Warren becomes this when you remember that, during her earliest appearances in Uncanny X-Men under Claremont, Laura is frequently shown aping Psylocke's mannerisms in the background. Lampshaded by Waiting For The Trade.
    • In the 2011 episode of The Super Hero Squad Show, "Too Many Wolverines!," one of the Wolverines is X-23 dressed in the classic Wolverine suit. Fast-forward to 2015 when Laura takes up the Wolverine mantle...
  • Launcher of a Thousand Ships: Just see Ship-to-Ship Combat below. The girl Really Gets Around in the fandom considering she's only barely had an official relationship in the books.
  • My Real Daddy: Craig Kyle and Christopher Yost created her, but didn't introduce her to the Marvel Universe (she's a Canon Immigrant), putting her in the hands of Joe Quesada and later Chris Claremont, probably with the intention of invoking this trope; when it didn't work, they started writing her themselves. While their take was seen as superior to Quesada's and Claremont's and laid groundwork on the character, it still had its share of problems. It was Marjorie Liu's run on Laura's solo title that definitely did a lot to make fans like a character that had previously (often derisively) been called Girlverine and Mary Sue.
  • Pandering to the Base: At least according to the people on one side of the Broken Base, who view the X-23 character with more than a little bit of scorn. A blatant Rule 63 character with a past somehow even more traumatic and convoluted than Logan's sounds like the stuff of a Journal Roleplay character, yet not only does X-23 exist, she is also very frequently used and promoted as an A-tier character. The rationale behind this, X-23's naysayers argue, is drearily predictable: if Wolverine Publicity is a golden goose, why not clone it and get twice the golden eggs for the price of one? It's been downplayed in more recent years, but back in the first couple of years of her existence X-23 was also very heavily featured, to the point where it was very hard to argue against her being a Creator's Pet. And of course there's the more recent arc where she's taken up Wolverine's role and codename.
  • Portmanteau Couple Name:
    • Helix has been widely adopted when discussing Laura's relationship with Hellion.
    • Cyx-23 has also been thrown about for the shipteasing between Laura and Teen!Scott in All-New X-Men.
    • And now Larren for the Laura/Teen!Warren relationship.
  • Ship-to-Ship Combat: Just like her daddy, Laura gets a fair bit of this, mainly between Helix (Hellion/Laura) fans, Laura/Jubilee fans, and fans who don't see her as having interest in relationships whatsoever. Also toss in Kimura, Gambit, Finesse, Mercury, Dust, Elixir, Fantomex, and more crack pairings such as Wither, Spidey, Hulk (see Crack Pairing above) and even Deadpool. There's even more than a few fans who ship her with Daken or Sabretooth. And now Rule 63 and time travel is enabling the Scott/Logan Crack Pairing to live vicariously through Laura and Teen Cyke (not that it stops anyone from shipping her with the adult Scott, too). The cover to All-New X-Men #30, and Laura's night out with Teen!Warren, has sparked shipping for that pairing, as well (and more than a few jokes over the idea of Laura moving through the entire O5. Yes, even Jean). In fact it's amazing Quentin Quire's Stepford Cuckoo-induced Imagine Spot of himself flirting with her in Wolverine and the X-Men #4 hasn't created that pairing (yet).
  • Squick:
    • During one part of "The Killing Dream," Hellverine torments Laura in the form of Cyclops. A naked Cyclops, who keeps telling her that she's his.
    • Laura's encounter with her half-brother, Daken. Once the various double-crossings are out of the way and the pair are forced to work together to take down Colcord, Daken's private thoughts about her after seeing her in action read rather... romantically. Of course, this is Daken...
  • The Woobie: Even taking the whole "raising a child to be an assassin" thing into consideration, Laura's upbringing was far harsher than it had to be. And this is on top of repeated Yank the Dog's Chain and From Bad to Worse moments every time it looks like she might have a chance to turn her life around. The poor girl just can't catch a break!
    • Iron Woobie: Despite just how badly Laura wants a normal life, she will keep on fighting to protect others because she must. Recruiting her for X-Force was acknowledged to be a tremendous mistake for her well-being by everyone involved, but Laura still accepted the position anyway, and has proven time and again her willingness to sacrifice herself for others.
    • Stoic Woobie: Despite all she's been through, though, Laura seldom actually talks about it. But mostly because her emotionally-abusive upbringing has left her with a poor understanding of how to express herself, to the point that she frequently cuts herself. When she does break down, she's prone to bouts of severe if not suicidal depression.
  • Word of God: Marjorie Liu's explanation for the ending of x-23 #19, in which Laura tells Julian that she doesn't feel anything for him is that Laura has essentially outgrown their relationship. Fans...tend not to agree. However it has less to do with the point of view of the author than it does with the execution of the scene which was found to be rushed by many, to the point some people think that it was an editorial mandate and that many find the characterization of both Laura and Julian to be unusually poor (especially the latter).
  • Yank the Dog's Chain: Out of Universe example: When it was announced that Christopher Yost and Craig Kyle would write Laura again in Amazing X-Men, her fans celebrated, since they were dissapointed with the way she was portrayed in All-New X-Men. Unfortunately it was revealed this was falsely reported and there were never plans for Laura to appear in Amazing.


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