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The reason everything seems Darker and Edgier is because Finn has grown up in real time
Just think about it. 5 years have passed since the end of the first lego movie, what's not to say that Finn has grown up into a 13 year old? It's possible he is now wiser and knows how to construct a better story (possibly alluding to the fact that everything seems more bleak), has a bigger imagination (Just look at the post apocalyptic Bricksburg!) and now better understands the workings of comedy (suggesting to why Emmet is still... Emmet in this post apocalyptic world. This is alongside the fact that there appears to be more satirical comedy now.)
  • This is also why Sweet Mayhem is a Lego Friends figure. The invaders have gone from Duplo to Friends because Finn's sister has also grown up.
    • Just to add onto that, Sweet Mayhem's voice now sounds like an individual character, instead of some child trying their hardest to pronounce words properly when acting out their characters in the story (seen at the ending of the first movie with the Duplo aliens). Alluding to Finn's sisters character development as well.
  • Confirmed.
Finn's sister is controlling Sweet Mayhem in the real world
And the Sis-star system is in her bedroom.
  • Both confirmed.
Metalbeard's body is destroyed, and has to be rebuilt.
He's seen as nothing but a chest and head in one of the sets, and he's also briefly seen with a new, spider-like body in the teaser.
  • Confirmed. His body is blown to bits before he's taken off-world.
The Duplo aliens have been working for Queen Watevra.
  • Confirmed, so it seems.
Lucy changed her name so often to hide the fact that she wrote Everything Is Awesome.
In the CMF series, she has a variant called "Flashback Lucy" dressed as a pop singer and has a golden record labeled "Everything is Awesome". However, something relating to Lord Business's rule made her change her mind.
"Catchy Song" is used as a brainwashing tool.
All the captured citizens, including the DC superheroes, are placed in this suburbia prison and forced to listen to "Catchy Song" to keep them pacified.
  • Confirmed. Although they may just be that happy in their new home.
    Semi-Confirmed/Jossed 
Sweet Mayhem is a LEGO Friends character
Look at the size of the helmet compared to her body. Look at the design of her arms. Now read several articles about how this film is going to bring the cast to a planet that turns everything they say and do into a musical, and connect the dots.
  • First part confirmed, second part Jossed (a whole galaxy, and they just like singing).

The other characters from the Unikitty cartoon will appear.
We'll get to see Puppycorn, Hawkodile, and Dr. Fox as they would appear if they were actually made out of LEGO bricks, as opposed to the Limited Animation style of the TV series.
  • We get a glimpse of Puppycorn, along with Unikitty's palace, in the film but that's really it (unless you count this short from Cartoon Network featuring characters from both series).

Emmett will get a new outfit later on.
I mean, everyone else has, so why not the main character?
  • Sort of confirmed. He puts on one of Rex's vests.

I know previous depictions of Disney-owned properties in the series have been less than positive, but come on, Emmett's flying a spaceship with a plant, for pete's sake!
  • Semi-confirmed by the character of Rex Dangervest.

The theme of this movie will be about boys and girls playing not so differently and learning from each other.
Sweet Mayhem is kidnapping fierce leaders because the Systar system is facing a crisis only fierceness can solve, which isn't promoted by the feminine Friends theme. By the end of the movie, the rough, masculine Mad Max-style dystopia of Bricksburg will somehow borrow elements from the Systar system, regaining the color and kindness it had in the first movie.
  • Semi-confirmed. Sweet Mayhem is trying to capture the Apocalypseburg leaders so the Systar System inhabitants can make peace with them.

Sweet Mayhem isn't just a Friends figure, but one of the characters from the line's Evil Twin
The actual character will appear and be depicted a bit more positively.
  • Semi-confirmed. Under the helmet, Sweet Mayhem has a rather cute face and hair.

One or more of the new properties acquired via LEGO Dimensions will cameo
It would be a shame not to utilize them now that LEGO has the licenses even though Dimensions was cancelled, especially after how well the unexpected appearances in the LEGO Batman movie were received.

  • In particular, GLaDOS. The Tween Dream remix of 'Everything is Awesome' Emmett listens to sounds a LOT like it was sung by her.

A few do appear as cameos, yet not the ones you'd think. Back To The Future (Doc Brown), Scooby-Doo (Velma), The Wizard of Oz (Dorothy, Scarecrow, Tin Man, Lion) and Beetlejuice. Gandalf was already licensed.

Sweet Mayhem isn't actually the Big Bad, or even evil at all.
Rather, she is a Well-Intentioned Extremist trying to save her home. something even more dangerous is causing a rampage in the Systar System, and, since it's made up of girl's themes, nobody's prepared to handle it. When our heroes refuse to help her, she has no choice but to kidnap them.
  • Confirmed, sort of.

Emmet remembers everything he saw and experienced out in the real world, and has been keeping what he knows to himself ever since.
His chipper attitude and Dissonant Serenity (so far, in the trailers) show that the only-I-know-the-reality-of-our-universe has either made him Go Mad from the Revelation, or that Emmett believes that Finn and his Dad will just up and make everything right and "awesome" again in an instant when they're ready.
  • BOTH Jossed and Confirmed. Jossed, in that Emmet himself gives no indications of remembering the real world and is just being the chipper optimist he always is. Confirmed, in that Rex is Emmet, from an alternate future in which he was trapped in the real world and gained full comprehension of reality and the LEGO world, implied to have driven him to madness and evil.
Beyond just Duplo and Lego Friends, other non-standard Lego sets will appear in the film, each with their own planet
Among the planets featured will be Fabuland and Mata Nui which much like Lego Friends was dismissed by Wildstyle in the previous film.
  • Well, I DID see some Fabuland characters...
Queen Watevra Wa'Nabi is going to serve as a Take That! to surprise villains in one way or another.
Since they are so prevalent in so many animated movies nowadays and Lucy is "picking up super evil vibes" from her despite her not acting very threatening in the trailers.
  • Now that the movie is released, Queen Watevra is an inversion of a surprise villain. There's a surprise about her, but the surprise is that she's not evil, her intentions are good; she's just not the best at communication.
Emmett's optimism will be what helps to rebuild the world.
While the rest of the people of the world are now a bunch of hardened, scowling folks who now just spend their days trying to survive, Emmett remains his chipper, upbeat self, and has built a small house for him and Lucy to live quite comfortably in. This could serve as a Deconstruction of the hardened, pessimistic view of post-apocalyptic movies. Because everyone has been wallowing in their pessimism, they've become to cynical to realize they could have easily rebuilt the world not too long after the Duplo invasion if they'd had a more positive view. At that point, everyone will finally decide to stop surviving and finally get back to living, and rebuild Bricksburg, and anywhere else the Duplo aliens destroyed.
  • Possible. It looks like the Duplo stopped attacking eventually, but Bricksburg had been razed so many times by them that its citizens didn't notice.
  • Now that the movie is released, sort-of confirmed. Optimism is indeed necessary to make things right, but by this point both Apocalypseburg and the Systar System have been put into the Bin of Storage by Ourmamageddon. What actually has to happen is that Emmet needs to combine his new worldly wisdom with an optimistic desire to make things awesome if they aren't already; once Emmet does that, Finn and his sister Bianca make peace, which reverses Ourmamageddon and restores the Lego worlds.

    Jossed 
Finn is more “Girly” than his sister
Evidence:
  • Emmet: The guy loves everything and is super cheery regardless of the situation.
  • Cloud Cuckoo Land: This one is very self explanatory. If not, here’s a few words: Unicorn Cat Princess.

These are arguments Finn’s sister will use against him when they start arguing.

  • Jossed.

Someone will stumble across a minikit
They'll be told to 'just leave it' a la Clash of the Titans.

  • Jossed.

President Business is dead.
He has yet to appear in any trailers, nor has Will Ferrell been mentioned in any press releases. It's safe to assume he was killed in the initial invasion.
  • Alternatively, President Business is alive, but since he's not a Control Freak bad guy anymore he doesn't have as much say in what goes on in his world and merely lets things develop into what they are now.
  • Jossed.

Finn's sister made Bricksbrug Darker and Edgier
After she grew up she got interested in Mad Max and other post-apocalyptic settings and turned the basement into the wasteland. Finn's the one controlling Sweet Mayhem and the other LEGO Friends, trying to get his sister to play with "proper" girly toys.
  • Jossed and subverted. Finn's sister wants Finn's Legos to be friends with her Legos.

There will be a homage to anime popular in America
Since Toonami on Cartoon Network and later, Adult Swim aired lots of Anime Franchises, why not?

Possibilities:

  • Naoko Takeuchi's Sailor Moon: An expy of Her could appear.
  • Gainax's Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann: Emmet and the Master Builders build a Humongous Mecha that can grow from a size of a Skyscraper, to very asburd Sizes.
  • Akira Toriyama's Dragon Ball and Dr. Slump: Expies of Goku and Vegeta could appear.
  • Naruto series: TBD.
  • JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: WB used to own the rights of the franchise (and it would be impossible for LEGO to use it, mainly because of the Writing Around Trademarks and Screwed by the Lawyers problems, but they can figure it out) and Expies of the Protagonists could appear.
  • Bleach: Same as JJBA, but in Japan.
  • My Hero Academia: TBD.
  • Sweet Mayhem already bears a resemblance to Toonami's old mascot, who appeared in bumper sequences back then. (Did that character have a name? Can't remember if he did.)

All Jossed.

Team RWBY will make an appearance
Well, WB owns the rights to the franchise in Japan, so who would like to see Emmet and the RWBY gang in LEGO form? After all, Rooster Teeth sold the Japanese Distribution rights to the Warner Brothers and it would be the first time a Webseries that is used by LEGO.
  • Jossed.

Sweet Mayhem isn't a representation of Finn's little sister, but his bigger sister.
While Sweet Mayhem is definitely in league with the DUPLO aliens, she sounds far too old to be Finn's little sister (whose voice was definitely that of a toddler in the original film) even after a 5 year gap. However, she could be an older sister Finn had that we didn't know about;
  • Her voice makes her sound like she's nearing adulthood.
  • She's a LEGO Friends minidoll, a line meant for teenage girls.
  • She disparages Emmett for "getting to be the leader" despite Lucy doing the fighting, making fun of a common trope in a lot of media (while also ignoring the actual events of the last film because they disprove her point.) I doubt that Finn's little sister would be aware of the unfortunate implications of that trope.
  • Her home system, the Systar system, has multiple planets (more than the actual number of LEGO lines aimed at girls).
  • She uses hearts which look and sound like the DUPLO monsters from the first film (which could suggest they are separate people).
    • Bit of a problem here (wait, are we allowed to do this. I've seen these kinds of arguments on other WMG pages but I'm not sure). Emmett does not sound like he's voiced by an 8 year old, Lucy has a definitely female voice, and I don't think Finn could imitate Morgan Freeman well enough to voice Vitruvius.
  • Maybe Sweet Mayhem actually represents their Mom starting to participate in LEGO play with the kids for the first time ever, because Finn's sister has just gotten her first LEGO Friends figure and sets, and Dad is leaving Mom in charge of "girls play".
    • Interesting theory, but jossed.
Unikitty is related to Queen Watevra Wa'Nabi.
Unikitty has limited shape shifting abilities (becoming a giant monster kitty for example) and change color depending on her emotions just like Wa'Nabi, so that could mean they are either sisters or mother and daughter.
  • Jossed.

    Post-Release 
If a third movie is going to be made, maybe it will officially include LEGO Bionicle and Hero Factory characters.
After a few cameos, it might be very likely for Bionicles to make an appearance alongside with the successor series Hero Factory, maybe even as major characters to drive the plot in the third movie if it were to ever be made. They would differ from the LEGO Minifigures because of their large size and stature, maybe even viewed as giants of the LEGO world.

A third movie will take place (at least in part) at a LEGO Convention
Now that Finn and Bianca are on better terms, they'll probably want an outlet to show off their creations with other LEGO enthusiasts. This will be a cool way to show how other people play with LEGO, and interpret it as the LEGO characters travelling through a nexus of multiple realities. It could also be a way to bring in more cameos from technic sets like Bionicle or Hero Factory, as said above. It could also show the siblings suddenly become very overwhelmed when they see bigger and better creations, and try to emulate them rather than telling their own stories leading to An Aesop about the importance of staying true to yourself and exactly what makes you special as telling stories are what the two siblings exell at.

A third movie will focus on Finn getting a love interest
This could reflect the way he plays with his LEGO in various ways.
  • Finn will be embarrassed about it suddenly and start playing with them less, and it'll be up to Bianca to remind him how much fun he had. The love interest will either end up liking LEGO as much as Finn, or turning their nose up at them—leading to an aesop about not wasting time with people who don't respect your hobbies.
  • Finn will try and use his sets and creations to impress them, and hilarity will ensue.

Robin will return in a third movie
But he'll be all dark and broody and say "fork Batman!"
  • Alternatively, he'll be the tiniest, cutest, most Adorkable Nightwing ever. Little guy thinks he's so edgy.

Finn went through some harsh times between the first and second movie
It's obvious that Rex is supposed to be Finn's second Author Avatar after Emmet, and, well, while Emmet is nice and innocent, just like Finn in the first movie, Rex is much more of a Jerkass and a cynic, just like Finn in this movie. And we know that the reason why Rex is the way he is is because he was stuck under the dryer for a long time and completely forgotten by his friends. It's entirely possible that Finn went through something similar - maybe he was bullied, completely ignored by someone (possibly his dad, considering how neglectful his father appears to be in this movie) or his friends abandoned him, which caused him to develop into the Big Brother Bully you see in this movie.

One explanation of Rex's shenanigans and how they fit into the universe's rules
After Finn rebuilds Emmet's house into a ship, he accidentally drops it and loses Emmet under the dryer. During this flashback scene you hear him ask "Where's Emmet?" and apparently doesn't get him back. I propose that a lot of Finn's bad attitude could be caused by anger at losing his favorite minifigure. After this he uses a duplicate figure as Emmet, but is still bitter that he lost the original as it has sentimental value to him. In addition to the duplicate Emmet, Finn creates Rex Dangervest as an updated hero to suit his current taste, and imagines him as the original Emmet figure who willed his way back into the LEGO world but is bitter about having been lost and abandoned. Finn doesn't know Emmet was under the dryer of course but since figures are established as capable of limited movement in the real world, having their own independent knowledge as well is feasible, thus explaining how Rex is able to tell his backstory of being trapped under the dryer. Finally, the end of the movie in which Lucy saves Emmet from under the dryer after Rex puts him there is a representation of Finn finally finding his original Emmet minifigure, and being in better spirits as a result, as well as erasing the story which gave rise to Rex which is why he disappears. Tl;dr Many of the scenes presented as Rex having the ability to move, build, and even time travel in the real world is Finn's imagination, but an Emmet minifigure was still clearly lost under the basement dryer at some point.
  • Rex's in-universe story could mirror his creation and fate in real life: When Finn lost Emmet under the dryer, Finn built Rex as a replacement for him along with his star fleet using parts from other minifigures and sets (hence Rex's breaking gimmick), this is interpreted as the birth of Rex from a stranded, resentful Emmet. A few weeks later, Finn searches again and finds Emmet, represented in the movie as Rex rescuing him from the glassteroid field. With Emmet back and Finn changing his mind about his sister Bianca, Rex is disassembled and his pieces put back where they belonged initially, that's why he disappears a la Back to the Future in the movie.

A different Rexplanation
During Emmett's vision of the real world, we hear Finn say that he's working on a time travel plot. Later on, when Emmett mentions his worry that Rex was just "a projection of what [his] ego needs deep down," it was somewhat accurate. However, the truth is that Rex was made by Finn to be just that, but for himself.

Going back to the LEGO world, the only reason Emmett came so close to crashing into the asteroid is because Finn planned for Rex to show up in the story. Realistically, Finn would never have Emmett fail permanently. Emmett is his "main character," after all, so Rex's introduction was just a fun way to kick off the time travel plot. His "backstory" is made up and was based on the time Finn actually witnessed a LEGO character moving on its own (in the first movie).

The plot twist of Rex being evil was only metaphorically true, because Finn thought that he was justified in destroying his sister's set, since she had taken his characters (i.e. she "started it"). So, Finn causes Armamageddon.

When the kids start putting everything away, Finn "accidentally" hides Emmett and Rex under the dryer. Rex's turning on Emmett was a representation of Finn's guilt. And just like the first movie, the two figures are capable of sentient movement. However, also like the first movie, the two still carry out the events of the story they're a part of.

After Finn and Bianca reconcile, the two "save" Emmett using Finn's character and Bianca's Heart Bomb. After that, Finn retcons Rex out of existence. Emmett's statement that he'll never grow up to be like Rex is pretty much the exact way Finn feels after the movie.

TL;DR Finn planned the whole time travel plot and Rex was made to be a "grown-up." After Armamageddon, Finn realizes that Rex was truly evil the whole time, and eventually retcons him out of existence.

In a possible third movie, Finn and Bianca will meet the kid from The LEGO Ninjago Movie.
At some point, Finn and Bianca will run into the kid, and discover he likes Lego like them. From there, they will start playing Lego together. From there, they will come to learn about each other through their respective minifugures (Emmett Brickowski for Finn, Queen Watevra Wa'Nabi/General Mayhem for Bianca, and Lloyd Garmadon for the kid), and that's how their relationship is formed, which we see in the adventure(s) Emmett, Queen Watevra Wa'Nabi/General Mayhem, and Lloyd Garmadon go on.

Despite their claims to the contrary, the inhabitants of Systar are being brainwashed.
Not "in-universe" for them but because they're toys. We've seen that people interacting with the minifigs directly influences their actions, thoughts and personalities: In the first movie, Emmett is kind and heroic because that's how Finn sees him while Lord Business thinks Emmett is too bland to be a hero because Finn's dad sees Emmett as a generic construction worker. While in Apocalypseburg, the characters identify with the characterization Finn gave them as survivors of a gritty post-apocalypse and they're suspicious and distrustful of Systar. As soon as they're "kidnapped," taken by Bianca to her room, they go from Finn's influence to Bianca's and their attitude towards Systar relaxes almost immediately. Some characters hold out longer, likely because Finn played with them more (Emmett, Wyldstyle, even Batman) so his influence took longer to wear off. Long story short, it's not the Catchy Song that's altering their viewpoints and behavior, it's the shift in locales courtesy of beings beyond their comprehension.

Lucy/Wyldstyle was a promotional minifigure
  • In the real world the minifigure who became Lucy, or at least her head and hair pieces, was originally a promotional figure based on the lead singer of the band who released Everything is Awesome. At some point in the past The Man Upstairs came into possession of the figure - probably looking exactly like the Flashback Lucy figure from the Collectible Minifigure line for LEGO Movie 2 - and Finn took a liking to it. Finn possibly took an interest in the figure and asked who she was and The Man Upstairs said she was a member of a popular band, which Finn took literally, is why the band is called that in the LEGO world.
  • At some point Finn came into possession of the figure, either as a gift from The Man Upstairs due to Finn loving the song Everything is Awesome or he 'borrowed' her and customised her as he got older and his tastes changed.
  • The other members of the band seen on the album and the CMF line are promotional figures of the other real world band members.

Sweet Mayhem is a Master Builder
Which explains why she sought Emmet. Would also tie into the first movie.

Queen Watevra Wa'Nabi is Emmett's daughter, and Batman’s his son-in-law.
Not really a theory or whatever, but, I mean, seriously, think about it for a moment; the Queen was formed from a heart that Emmet built! Doesn’t that technically mean that she’s his child? And since Watevra Wa’nabi is married to Batman by the end of the movie, then by the might of the law as we here in Real Life recognise it, he’s Emmet’s son-in-law! -Terror Cooper

Part of the story is a retcon
The part about losing Emmet and replacing him with Rex Dangerfield up to destroying Lucy's creation happened in real time. But it wouldn't explain why Rex is considered the bad guy when Finn seemed dead set on doing it. So he thought of an idea. Once he and Lucy managed to find Emmet, he changed up his story to make Rex Dangerfield part of a dark timeline and that he purposefully put Emmet there to make him turn into Rex. Once Finn saw the error of his ways, he changed up the story to where he rejects Rex and accepts Emmet back into his life.

Contrary to Rex's belief, his friends eventually did remember to go back for him.
But by the time they decided to search for him, Rex had already left the timeline.
  • Or they were mere seconds from realizing he was gone.

Green Lantern was originally going to be left behind on Apocalypseburg in an early draft of the movie.
His Apocalypseburg variant in the Apocalypseburg set is an Early Draft Tie-In where the Justice League didn't want him to join their mission to the Systar System, so they left him to watch over Apocalypseburg in their absence. It would've made sense given he's one of the biggest Butt Monkeys in the franchise.

Vitruvius would've warned Emmet and his friends about Armamageddon if he was still alive.
He was able to predict that fighting with the Systarians would have dire consequences, but nobody took his prediction seriously because they thought it was just another made-up legend of his. But when the time came, he missed his chance to properly warn everyone not to fight the aliens when MetalBeard sent him flying and he later moved on to the afterlife.

Marvel didn't answer the phone calls because everyone turned into dust
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If a third movie does happen, it could involve Emmet and/or Lucy calling out the Apocalypseburgers and/or the Systarians
Given that they have been nothing but rude and mean towards Emmet during the past two films, it's not unlikely that they will still be this to Emmet in a possible third movie. If things get out of hand, it's also possible that Emmet and/or Lucy will get fed up and call them out for their Jerkass behavior. Not only for not siding with him, despite being one of the good guys, but also, refusing to help him during the previous films.

If Emmet got taken instead of Lucy, he would've been the first to be "brainwashed".
  • I say this cause unlike Lucy and the others, Emmet never changed his happy go lucky personality. So If Sweet took Emmet along with his friends instead of Lucy, he would enjoy the systar system and become the first to "Brainwashed."

    Unsorted 
As the characters explore the Sis-star system they'll discover elements of these interests along the way, such as LEGO figure versions of characters and items from various franchises, correlating with Finn learning more about his little sister and becoming more accepting of the idea of playing with her.

Emmett is a Stepford Smiler.
He's in extreme denial over the state of his home, and is just trying to live his life normally.

This film will comment on "Phases" that kids can go through.
For instance, the world having become a post-apocalyptic wasteland is a reflection of Finn going through a phase where he thinks that everything must be "dark and hopeless" in order for it to be cool and meaningful. Though Emmet still being happy is a bit of a bump in this theory (perhaps he's the one character who refuses to adapt to this change in their world and it's what semi-alienates him from all his friends who are now "dark and gritty).Also, Sweet Mayhem (the apparent antagonist of the film in the trailers), is the avatar of Finn's sister (in the same way that Emmet is the avatar of Finn) and is going through a "girl-power" phase where she feels that she has to be as tough as any boy. This is why she seems so incredulous that Emmett is considered the Special when Lucy could quite easily beat him in a fight. She'll try and get Lucy(Wyldstyle) to join her by saying that she should be the leader.The film will poke fun at, and eventually call out these phases as unhealthy extremes, or something to that effect. The characters, along with Finn and his sister, will realize that there's nothing wrong with something being light and happy, so long as it's well constructed, and that if Finn's sister wants to be "girly" that that's fine too.
Rex Dangervest will…
  • Be a Fake Ultimate Hero
  • Be secretly working with the antagonists
  • Be a Paper Tiger and/or Dirty Coward who’s accomplishments are fake and/or have been exaggerated
  • Emmett's alter ego
  • Emmett's Long-Lost Relative
  • Have a different birth name similar to how Lucy preferred to be called Wyldstyle
  • Be the true Big Bad
    • The last one is confirmed. Second to last is semi-confirmed. The fourth one is true, in a way.

"Sweet Mayhem" is not actually the characters real name
Similar to Lucy, she created an identity for herself. She was an average minifig note  who wants to be someone else. This could be explained out-of-universe, by Finn's sister modifying her appearance and turning her into a Villain Sue.

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